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[Radical Fiction]

Radical Fiction is a funny guy.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I apologize for saying I was going to keep my vote on DatHydra. I'll gladly put it back if need be, but Unvote Vote: Red Ryu

Oh.

My.

GOD.

Take a risk. Put your life on the line. Come up with a case. DO SOMETHING!!!!! You sit there and you put forward very little and only after the fact. Initiate something. I don't need a commentary on the game I'm playing. I need a player who's ACTIVELY scum hunting instead of passively coasting.

Give me a solid read on 4 out of these 6 players with a well thought out reason why: Us, JTB, Soupa, Glyph, Tandora, and Smargboy.

Polish it off with your top 2 scum picks after your vote.

I'm not giving a list, gives scum a nice clear read on how I feel about everyone.

Top two are Hida, and Soupamario

Hida because of what I said, and Soupamario because his noob card claim is bull, imo.

 

[smarboy69]

It also gives town something to work with from you.

Cuz you've done nothing all game.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

 

[DatHydra]

His word is not law. Fight your own battles.

When did I say it was? If anything you are arguing for me, as my points is others are just using what Gheb said as an easy avenue to find legitimate ways to attack me, despite them being off base.

I honestly don't give two ****s about what others have posted concerning you. I was on the wagon, originally, because we needed a neat wagon to make something happen. However, then, after receiving some attention, you claimed. I HATE the timing of that claim. Scummiest thing you've done. I don't see any town motivation for claiming it then, not that the claim itself is more than a null tell. There were still days and days left before deadline and people were already stating that they didn't want you to go to L-2 for phantom fear of a double voter (if he were to act, he'd be ****ed). I'm perfectly fine with seeing where you go with Roxy and deciding whether to stay with you or switch to one of the other two mentioned above.

Cool story bro. I honestly don't understand why Seik claimed at that point either, but its not an inherently scummy move, just a blunder. I specifically told him that we should try to get past toDay without claiming so we could definitely get in out one-shot in w/o being roleblocked, but that was not the case as he jumped the gun.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Smooth. Get on my picture posting level.

Ryu is Malcom

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It also gives town something to work with from you.

Cuz you've done nothing all game.

It's true, but I not listing everyone on a list for scum to read.

 

[RoxPSI]

HoS: Red Ryu like
what
the
****

 

[Radical Fiction]

Cool story bro. I honestly don't understand why Seik claimed at that point either, but its not an inherently scummy move, just a blunder. I specifically told him that we should try to get past toDay without claiming so we could definitely get in out one-shot in w/o being roleblocked, but that was not the case as he jumped the gun.

It's anti-town to put it out there which is scummy in the first place. If I had claimed the same thing at the same stage in the day, would you be on me for the claim?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Smooth. Get on my picture posting level.

Ryu is Malcom

K, got something relevant with this now?

So do you think I'm more relevant to lynch over datHydra? If so why?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

HoS: Red Ryu like
what
the
****

 

[RoxPSI]

umm... if you're going to be useless... you should go be useless while dead so you don't hinder the game.

-rPSI

 

[DatHydra]

Where in the hell did this come from? No one said RoxPSI is controlling the town. You defensive about players stepping up like they're supposed to?

Right, I wonder where that came from.

Note that I am not controling town, but simply making my thoughts about DatHydra clear rather than pushing his lynch.

It's anti-town to put it out there which is scummy in the first place. If I had claimed the same thing at the same stage in the day, would you be on me for the claim?

Of course. However, I am not trying to blatantly say "considering Seik's experience background, it was simply a nub slip" because I don't want to be judged as such. Regardless, his experience does have to be factored into the equation. Its not something an experienced player would do, but could a first timer do it when they did not have communication access to their hydra partner? Absolutely.




Also stop the freaking picture war.

 

[Radical Fiction]

I knew better. I will not cater to that.

What of Red Ryu? Your opinion on this shenanigan?

 

[Radical Fiction]

It's true, but I not listing everyone on a list for scum to read.

You're not listing nearly enough to give town a read. Better to have the information in the open where scum can read it than to take it to the grave.

 

[smarboy69]

Ryu you're in no position to...

Wow...

Just... wow. Where's the big a** rock when you need it? Ryu, you need to actually do something this game if you wanna be seen as town. Your post made it seem like you were standing on a frozen river, hoping you can cross the river without falling through the ice. Except here, you were just hoping you can look like you're playing the game. When you were just... not... You were almost completely stanceless, and the laughable stance vs hida is recycled.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

With 13 alive it take 7 to lynch!

[0] Glyph:
[0] Tandora:
[0] Soupamario:
[3] DatHydra: hidajiremi, RoxPSI, Soupamario,
[2] hidajiremi: Asdioh, Red Ryu,
[0] Vult Redux:
[4] RoxPSI: Vult Redux, Gheb_01, DatHydra, JTB,
[1] Asdioh: Tandora,
[1] Red Ryu: RadicalFiction,
[0] smarboy69:
[0] RadicalFiction:
[0] JTB:
[0] Gheb_01:
[0] No Lynch:

Not voting: Glyph, smarboy69,

 

[RoxPSI]

@Mod- DatHydra only has 4 votes ATM

-rPSI

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

Should be fixed now.

 

[Asdioh]

Why does this even matter? Do you acknowledge that it looks like you know my alignment and are trying to blame it on RoxPSI if I am mislynched? Where is your vote atm?

I was just saying that it was one of RoxPSI's biggest points against you.. the fact that you claimed, and what you claimed. If he is scum, and you're town, it just seems risky for him to say "one shot watcher? he's lying about that lolol" and then have you turn out to be exactly what you said. After using what you claimed as one of his strongest, most-recent arguments against you, it will look bad on him.
My vote is on Hida, and has been for a while. I still really don't know how to feel about you and Roxpsi.


However.

I've felt Red Ryu was scummy for most of this game. He has not contributed anything worthwhile. He has lurked ... wtf, just read what he's said.

My biggest problem with him is that I think he's scum, but I also think Hida's scum, and RR just voted for Hida. Now what? ._.

Red Ryu, giving stances on who you think is scum is more useful than saying nothing, and also more useful than saying who you think is town (I learned this in my second game)

 

[Tandora]

3) The Watcher can prove that he is a Watcher, not that he is a Town Watcher. Letting him go wouldn't clear him at all; it would just give us a chance to catch him in a lie. FOS: Tandora

Considering I've made it clear that I think Hydra is town, obviously I'm going to consider his claim to be town. Watcher is usually town and how would a SCUM Watcher be beneficial?

If someone can prove their role, and I think they are town, I'm gonna give them a chance to prove their role. It's not an easy role to prove, granted, but it is much more easily proven than princess, seer, or any number of other easy scum claims.

If Hydra comes up with helpful information, we use it. If he comes up with nothing, we react differently. In short, deal with the circumstances as we learn them.

One thing that people didn't take note of is that while DatHydra claimed to have a one-shot watcher ability he never claimed that this is his only use.

Good point, Gheb.

@Hydra, do you have any other abilities than the one you've claimed?

Tandora/Glyph/Both halves of smargboy

I see you there. Give me content.

It seems to me that people are focusing WAY too much on Hydra's claim. Rather than asking him more questions, I've seen people just worry on the usefulness of his role. This is anti-town. You shouldn't vote for someone because you think they're role is probably gonna be useless once it's tapped.

I've seen games where someone made a claim of a weak role, was killed because of it, and the claim was true. Honestly, finding townies and keeping them alive is just as vital as finding scum and killing them. I think shooting ourselves in the foot by lynching someone who is supposedly useless is bad play. I'd keep an eye on the players who've proposed as much.

Hydra, who are your scum picks? Why? If you did use your power tonight, who would you target?

 

[smarboy69]

RR, you don't need to do a nice color-coded list or rank people from 1 (confirmed town) to 10 (confirmed scum). You do need to take stances in the form "I think X is scummy because of Y."

Second my other head's FOS. The only reason I had you at null before this was your lack of posting, but if it's that you're not willing to post and not that you can't? Yeah, you're scum.

Asdioh: Scumbuddies will bus each other/place distancing votes when it doesn't look like a lynch is all that likely. Don't avoid a wagon because someone you think is scummy is on it.

 

[smarboy69]

Edit: DH, if you do have something other than a one-shot watcher, please don't go into specifics. I don't think that sort of claiming is beneficial right now.

 

[Sephiroths Masamune]

With 13 alive it take 7 to lynch!

[0] Glyph:
[0] Tandora:
[0] Soupamario:
[3] DatHydra: hidajiremi, RoxPSI, Soupamario,
[2] hidajiremi: Asdioh, Red Ryu,
[0] Vult Redux:
[4] RoxPSI: Vult Redux, Gheb_01, DatHydra, JTB,
[1] Asdioh: Tandora,
[1] Red Ryu: RadicalFiction,
[0] smarboy69:
[0] RadicalFiction:
[0] JTB:
[0] Gheb_01:
[0] No Lynch:

Not voting: Glyph, smarboy69,

I missed RadicalFiction's vote on RedRyu

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Ryu you're in no position to...

Wow...

Just... wow. Where's the big a** rock when you need it? Ryu, you need to actually do something this game if you wanna be seen as town. Your post made it seem like you were standing on a frozen river, hoping you can cross the river without falling through the ice. Except here, you were just hoping you can look like you're playing the game. When you were just... not... You were almost completely stanceless, and the laughable stance vs hida is recycled.

This is funny, because I've given my stances on some people already, Gheb, Hida, RoxPSI, datHydra, SoupaMario.

I am not however laying all my cards on the table making a list off everyone to let scum manipulate my thoughts.

 

[Radical Fiction]

Considering I've made it clear that I think Hydra is town, obviously I'm going to consider his claim to be town. Watcher is usually town and how would a SCUM Watcher be beneficial?

Wtf? Watcher, the POWER ROLE IDENTIFIER, wouldn't be beneficial to scum?

 

[Radical Fiction]

EBWOP: That doesn't even really matter. I'm not going further down that tangent. My apologies.

 

[RoxPSI]

Cooperate or die.
Vote: Red Ryu

 

[Asdioh]

Watcher is usually town and how would a SCUM Watcher be beneficial?

...

my second game had a mafia tracker.

@Hydra, do you have any other abilities than the one you've claimed?

...

Hydra, who are your scum picks? Why? If you did use your power tonight, who would you target?

...

I don't like most of what you just posted.

Asdioh: Scumbuddies will bus each other/place distancing votes when it doesn't look like a lynch is all that likely. Don't avoid a wagon because someone you think is scummy is on it.

When I was RR's scumbuddy, he had heat on him most of the game (maybe because that's just how RR plays) and I was willing to bus him at anytime. It never came to that point, but the point I'm getting at is that Hida had practically no heat on him so I don't think that's bussing. I definitely think that Hida OR Red Ryu are scum, moreso Hida, but not both of them.

 

[DtJ Glyphmoney]

I'm sitting in Calc right now, its not exactly prime time for me to be posting. If I'm able to tonight, I'll post. If not, then I'll do it when I get to it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Cooperate or die.
Vote: Red Ryu

Enjoy your mislynch.

When I was RR's scumbuddy, he had heat on him most of the game (maybe because that's just how RR plays) and I was willing to bus him at anytime. It never came to that point, but the point I'm getting at is that Hida had practically no heat on him so I don't think that's bussing. I definitely think that Hida OR Red Ryu are scum, moreso Hida, but not both of them.

My play-style attract attention, it always has. I never look town to everyone in mafia whenever I play it, which is good and bad I guess, consistent play but then leads to people wanting to lynch me usually.

I'm not important in this game either way, I guess.

I do not like how three different people jumped on a bandwagon where two of them posted little to no content why they felt like it, RoxPSI and Gordito.

 

[smarboy69]

You're kidding me rite?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Look back at RoxPSI and Gordito, they posts short comments before jumping on me.

 

[Vult Redux]

I've seen games where someone made a claim of a weak role, was killed because of it, and the claim was true. Honestly, finding townies and keeping them alive is just as vital as finding scum and killing them. I think shooting ourselves in the foot by lynching someone who is supposedly useless is bad play. I'd keep an eye on the players who've proposed as much.

Can you name them? p:

 

[JTB]

Now that I have a chance, I can explain why I voted RoxPSI. I've felt like quite a few of his posts just seem odd.

I found it odd that you singled out Glyph instead of people like myself who have directly talked to you

-Roxy

@gheb
Overall, our intention is to get activity into the game Gheb, while yes we should be pushing active players, by letting inactive players be, we're making it harder on ourselves in the long run. We plan to hound all inactives, but we find that just asking questions and expecting them to answer won't work well, so we are singling them out.

I find it odd that you call me out for singling out Glyph because I want him to post more, but you later post that your intention is to get more activity in the game, which is what I was doing. What?

Later on..

Stop the presses; I spot something with my two eyes

-Roxy

Like, what was the point of this post? Your next post even says

@asdioh - To be perfectly honest, I think it's just the fact she's in a rush to get home. No biggie, but I felt the need to point it out. Her original vote on Hida was based on him riding the noob train; with Hida stepping it up, the vote is definitely invalid and misplaced.

Why was it necessary to bring up a vote that was obviously outdated? To throw suspicion on Tandora when there was no suspicious activity?

Then there's this

While I understand why this claim is the "icing on the cake" to you, I don't agree that the timing is wrong, as others have posted. And I'll link you to #622 for good measure, as I've only seen you jump on the RR bandwagon and disregard this post so far.

now for RR

 

[hidajiremi]

Please continue to discuss your personal distaste of hydras in thread. I can't think of a better way for you to continue to phone in content. Instead of exhibiting your extensive wealth of knowledge to the players, why not actually respond to my 529.

Look, I'll stop griping about hydras when you stop using being a hydra as an excuse for erratic playing. Deal?

My earlier post was a short thing over lunch since I didn't know if I was actually going to get a chance to post tonight. I usually have stuff on Thursday night, but it got canceled tonight so I can take a few moments to throw in some opinions.

DH accuses me of parroting a couple of times, which holds onto my skimming accusation, since I had a whole post about offering new information about Tandora. I would think that since we live together on top of having known each other for over a decade, that I would be able to tell whether or not she's playing like town--and she is. Her initial vote against me was a significant clue to me that she was trying to prod me into playing better and harder, and her immediate pull-back on that vote was just a further indication that I was right about it.

I can't deny that DH's role claim is pretty much neutral. It's not really a safe claim at all, since it makes people instantly suspicious--but it doesn't make him look strong enough for town to want to make the effort to preserve him or for scum to target him. It's a null claim in the end result, which means that all the other case building against him has to stand.

Much as I would like to accuse Red Ryu of being scum, I think he's got some decent points. He's wrong, of course, but I can see where he got to his idea. I'm pretty sure that he's town building a case and not scum trying to revive a dead wagon. On the other hand, RoxPSI's post of

Cooperate or die.
Vote: Red Ryu

is extremely suspicious to me, since that sort of divisive, attacking statement isn't actually very helpful for town. Giving absolutist orders only makes people mad at you. It creates a false dichotomy for voting: "Choose poison or different poison! Do it!" While I'm sticking with my DH vote for the moment, the only thing RP is managing with his posting tone over the last couple of pages

umm... if you're going to be useless... you should go be useless while dead so you don't hinder the game.

is closing the gap there.

 

[JTB]

As for RR, I'm going WTF at alot of his posts. I'm getting a IDGAF attitude from him off posts like this

I'm not giving a list, gives scum a nice clear read on how I feel about everyone.

Enjoy your mislynch.

Honestly, I'm getting the vibe that you don't even care about this game due to your lack of active scumhunting and your lack of cooperation with us.

Then there's this.

I'm not important in this game either way, I guess.

You COULD be important, but you are choosing not to. I really don't see any reason why you should be in this game with your current attitude.

unvote
vote Red Ryu

If you don't want to play, replace out then. There are three people on the
replacement list that would probably be more active than you.

 

[JTB]

@ hida

I don't agree with you on roxPSI's callout on RR. He's being straight up blunt with him since RR isn't being cooperative at all.

 

[RoxPSI]

is extremely suspicious to me, since that sort of divisive, attacking statement isn't actually very helpful for town. Giving absolutist orders only makes people mad at you. It creates a false dichotomy for voting: "Choose poison or different poison! Do it!" While I'm sticking with my DH vote for the moment, the only thing RP is managing with his posting tone over the last couple of pages



is closing the gap there.

Stop skimming and read what RR's posted. In context, it should make sense since everything he is doing is anti-town.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

The only thing I will not so is post a list, that is it.

Stop skimming and read what RR's posted. In context, it should make sense since everything he is doing is anti-town.

Enlighten me how everything I am doing is anti-town.