Well, lemme see...
He opened up with an apparently random vote and an attempt to convince his target not to vote him back.
Oh great, hes going to start criticizing my RVS posts. I can tell this is going to be good already.
This sort of arbitrary posting restriction just stifles conversation instead of contributing to it.
Does it? Was this the reason it took you 3 pages to jump in and say anything? Because I told RoxPSI if he cross voted he was scum? Sorry I didn't have all that much content to contribute
in the first post of the game.
Blatant reaching.
Another attempt to stifle contribution. "Shut up and let other people talk" is unhelpful, especially if you don't include content yourself. (And I know I've not been the best at posting content myself, but I'm trying to turn that around.)
1. This was Seik's post, not mine. You are capitalizing on the word
lurking and trying to build sufficient reasoning around it. Not my vocabulary, its his.
2. Do you disagree the first few pages were lots of info that made it difficult to jump in because it turned into a closed conversation? What about your opening post into this game?
Hida said:
Wow. I confirm at work, come home to have some dinner, and by bedtime there's already four pages to catch up with. I can't decide if I'm impressed or just annoyed. Haven't caught up yet, but from what I've seen so far, there seems to be a lot of Soupamario going "OMG! Gheb is talking a lot, Y SO SUSPICIOUS?" Goodness knows, as a newer player, I appreciate any insight a more experienced player can offer, as long as it's done without being rude or offensive. I haven't played a lot of games on forum so far, but I'm already sick and tired of people screaming that someone sucks or is stupid instead of just explaining why they disagree with them. (Not that I'm saying Soupamario is doing that mind you, just that I'm glad Gheb isn't.)
Despite saying I should not be stifling content (which is exactly what I was
NOT trying to do btw; open up the stage for everyone to post), your entry post shares the same connotations that Soup's posts have been unnecessary. I know you tacked on that last line there to play it safe from getting called out on it, but your entry post did exactly what you said my shouldn't. Stifled a player from speaking, and added no content.
He then immediately turns around and asks questions, the very thing he was getting onto RoxPSI for, rather than "giving his say." It makes it look like an attempt to get away with lurking and random voting, and then imitating the style of a prolific poster.
Yeah, I asked questions. Wow Kuz so scummy. The bolded makes absolutely no sense. If you mean my RVS post, then why are hell are you even talking about my RVS post? So, my questions were not actually genuine, but an attempt to look like a prolific poster? Quote for me the questions you found disingenuous. Furthermore, explain to me how I could try to imitate being a prolific poster, when that was my second post of the game.
Hida said:
Then he plays the newb card for his partner
Did I, Hida? In fact, I specifically tried my hardest not to let that become a factor in the equation when evaluation my posts, which is why I took the reigns early on. I mean, if you don't want to cut him any slack, even though its his first game, then fine. Its not like you yourself post blatant newb card **** like
Hida said:
I'll ride the noob train until I finally manage to finish a game
and expect to get away with it. But oh wait, you do.
The next page is my first post. Quite frankly, I was stunned by how fast the whole thing moved, so I can't really get on DH's back for 3 posts in 4 pages. He was still 3 ahead of me at that point. I think I've just been used to the previous couple of games I've been in having a glacial pace, so I wasn't really expecting four pages of content in a few hours. Also, I'm guilty of not paying as much attention to the stuff before my first post as I really should have; all I can say is that I was eager to start posting, and almost immediately got frustrated at the situation, which has kept me jumping for the last day or two. Otherwise, I might have seen DH's posting style being suspicious sooner.
So this is all admitting that you are guilty of all the things you incorrectly accuse me of. Nice AtE as the end. "I was frustrated that people found me suspicious, which is why I somehow missed the OVERWHELMING presence of DH's suspiciousness."
Again, there's that noob attack I hate so much. Also, he makes a point, and then immediately negates it. He then very selectively quotes one of Soup's posts to make him look scummy, which spreads the blame around, and says
Sorry you don't
like certain type of posts. Can't take the heat get out of the kitchen etc. What does
spread the blame around even mean? If you mean take all of the tunneled focus off of me, and brought up some other questionable areas, then yes, I spread the blame around aka scumhunted.
which just seems weird to me. I mean, shouldn't townies be trying to look town? The whole point of the game is trying to ferret out scum, which means that the scum are trying to pretend to be town, while the town are trying to convince the other players that they are who they say they are. That involves looking like town. It's just such a nonsensical statement, I'm not sure how I missed it before.
No. Town should not have to consciously think about appearing town, because they
are town and should act as such anyway. If you are trying to
look town, you are no different than scum and thus start playing as scum might play. Its not non-sensical and the reason you missed it is because you admitted several times that you have not been keeping up with the game properly (but its cool, because you can still chastise me from trying to slow the pace down early game so others can catch up.)
which is a noob claim in softer terms. Still, DH has claimed at this point that he's half noob, so maybe it cancels out? If half a noob claim worth claiming half a noob? Regardless, it's not a great defense--but it's not a very good attack either. DH says
Oh please. Soup came into this game thinking he was an IC, coming up with random theories and making baseless inferences all over the place. Anyone could see he had unfounded arrogance. As soon as Gheb and Radical voted me early game, he immediately assumed a power position and began to try and attack my weaker half from all directions. Then, I stepped in to actually pressure Soup and give some reasoning behind his statements, and his arrogant composure cracks in an instant. Back against a wall, he tries to throw the experience difference back in my face, which is fine, but not something that he should be using, considering how he played early game.
Hida said:
So far, all of DH's posts have been basically non-content with the occasional accusation or "NO U" thrown in for good measure.
I can only blame my fixation on RF's posting style--which still annoys me--with letting this slide past me.
This is blatantly false. All of it. Reaching, ending statement is reaching. Then, despite all this, he somehow claims that its the fault of RF? Where did that statement even come from?
Anyway, since I've stated that my policy is to never make an accusation without a vote.
Vote: DatHydra
Cool, throw in some self-meta at the end to warrant a vote. That makes sense. Why did you not even mention this
anywhere in your accusation section of your post, but just threw it on in the end as an after thought.