Discussion: The Process of Unlocking Characters and Other Content

[SonicMario]

https://youtu.be/9NTjMc9cV_s
(Will be a matter of time before the ninjas strike this videoj

Please pardon me for double posting. But I felt it was important enough to mention that I skipped ahead to see all the vs. matches and when Characters were unlocked. In the stream 19 vs. matches were played and a total of 9 characters were unlocked beginning with Inkling noticably unlocked at 10 Vs. amtches. Which may lead to indeed the margin being an average of 2 per character.

Though what's strange is the actual margin I found in this vid. Increments might also be kind of random on it's own. Though so far no more then 4 vs. matches. Here's what I saw:

Inkling after 10
11
12
13
Villager after 14
15
16 (Streamer lost in the Vs. match)
Marth after 17
18
Young Link after 19
20
Wii Fit Trainer after 21
22
23
Ice Climbers after 24
Captain Falcon after 25
26
Peach after 27
28 (Streamer lost in the vs. match)
Ryu after 29

If I made any slight errors I can't be seeing the entire 2 hour vid I just skipped ahead to end result of matches. But hopefully this helps at seeing the rate of characters via the Vs. Match method. At 9 characters in 19 matches though that's a pretty fast rate. Actually even before Inkling they had Ness, Bowser, and Zelda unlocked. So that's 12 characters in 29 matches. So via the Vs. match method you should have nearly all the characters by the time you get to 150 vs. matches if you want the fastest method.

I'm still going to go for Classic. But Vs. match definitely seems decently fast. And if winning the match is important just SD with a human 2nd player in a 1-on-1. (I don't know if it will matter like that but just in case)

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Oh bad

For the third time got after finishing classic mode

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Oh bad

For the third time got after finishing classic mode

Now I officially know who to unlock first.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Oh bad

For the third time got after finishing classic mode

Croc boi is all mine.

 

[ProudNintendofan]

So hold on.... if

Spoiler

"Cloud isn't in World of Light"]

, how are we supposed to unlock him?

 

[HeavenWolfHD]

Apparently you unlock him at the end of WoL

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Apparently you unlock him at the end of WoL

He’s in world of light

 

[HeavenWolfHD]

So what did I see ?

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

So what did I see ?

Wait a sec

Oh goodness I think I just ben ninja

It was a picture of cloud for his battle to unlock him in world of light.

 

[fogbadge]

so i imagine the datamining put that amiibo thing to bed?

 

[PF9]

If you really want to go through VS. matches fast, just play 1 stock matches against a CPU on Final Destination with the CPU damage set to 300 and launch rate set at 2.0.

Nothing is as simple as that. My winning percentage in this situation is pretty high.

 

[SonicMario]

Some news on the Vs. Match method

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It apparently takes 350 1 on 1 matches with the CPU to get them all.

However, having more controllers active in a match speeds up the process. So if you truly want them all ASAP. Just make the other 3-7 controllers SD

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Check it out

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...KgEpjgU3jXL1FYk/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

They are doing some info on finding character unlocks and who you have to beat clsssic mode with

So characters you can 7nlock first are

for (nice rivalry reference)

For

For

For

For

For

For

For

 

[nirvanafan]

Check it out

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...KgEpjgU3jXL1FYk/htmlview?usp=sharing&sle=true

They are doing some info on finding character unlocks and who you have to beat clsssic mode with

So characters you can 7nlock first are

for (nice rivalry reference)

For

For

For

For

For

For

how many people have been contributing to this info?

idk i would have thought the classic unlocks would for the most part make some sense of who gets who but a lot of them seem really out there in my opinion, is it possible each save or game randomizes who gets who in classic when you first boot up and just sticks to that?

 

[Michael the Spikester]

Has this been posted?

Edit: Greninja'd.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Yay they found the character you get Ridley as a challenger

 

[SonicMario]

Yay they found the character you get Ridley as a challenger

Given Ridley seems to unlock Chrom, I will now headcanon that Lucina makes a deal with the devil/Ridley himself to get her Father in Smash lol

 

[Stompman]

So with the 350 matches, would 5 player matches make it go 5 times faster or is it a different curve? My friends and I are getting our joy-cons and GC controllers ready lol

 

[Robin Lucina]

So with the 350 matches, would 5 player matches make it go 5 times faster or is it a different curve? My friends and I are getting our joy-cons and GC controllers ready lol

Do we need 350 matches to unlock all characters?

 

[Stompman]

That’s what the above Twitter account posted. Not 100% certain that it’s authentic, but I’m just going off that for now.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

The more players makes it faster too for a tip

 

[FlameEye]

You can't unlock characters with Amiibo.

 

[HeavenWolfHD]

I saw that on GameFAQs

Spoiler

https://www.elecspo.com/games/super...ters-in-smash-bros-ultimate-revealed-by-leaks

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

I did some digging around on Twitter and found some useful info.

So after ample testing I can confirm that unlocks happen every single fight but there’s a 10 minute cooldown between unlocks.

So you can play 20 matches in 10 mins or be in training or in the menu for 10 mins then play a 1 stock SD match and both will unlock only 1 char.

— Chiroz (@ChirozDR) November 26, 2018

So VS. mode matches have a 10 minute cool down timer on unlocking characters but you can bypass this timer by closing the game and reopening it which resets the timer which should make the process much quicker. WoL and Classic are not affected by the timer.

 

[EdreesesPieces]

I did some digging around on Twitter and found some useful info.

So after ample testing I can confirm that unlocks happen every single fight but there’s a 10 minute cooldown between unlocks.

So you can play 20 matches in 10 mins or be in training or in the menu for 10 mins then play a 1 stock SD match and both will unlock only 1 char.

— Chiroz (@ChirozDR) November 26, 2018

So VS. mode matches have a 10 minute cool down timer on unlocking characters but you can bypass this timer by closing the game and reopening it which resets the timer which should make the process much quicker. WoL and Classic are not affected by the timer.

When you say it bypasses the timer, since there are "unlocks every fight", does that mean as soon as you close it and open it. the very next match you play you'll unlock someone new?

Just confused because this info seems to contradict the 350 matches info? I mean if you did 350 matches, you might not necessarily unlock every character if you did all 350 matches in less than (10 mins X 75 characters = 750) minutes.

 

[Robin Lucina]

I did some digging around on Twitter and found some useful info.

So after ample testing I can confirm that unlocks happen every single fight but there’s a 10 minute cooldown between unlocks.

So you can play 20 matches in 10 mins or be in training or in the menu for 10 mins then play a 1 stock SD match and both will unlock only 1 char.

— Chiroz (@ChirozDR) November 26, 2018

So VS. mode matches have a 10 minute cool down timer on unlocking characters but you can bypass this timer by closing the game and reopening it which resets the timer which should make the process much quicker. WoL and Classic are not affected by the timer.

Do we really need 750mins to unlock all characters?
That's not a few hrs......

 

[fogbadge]

the more i hear about how to unlock characters to more annoyed i get, i liked unlocking characters but i like starting off the game by trying out newcomers and now its sounding like im not going to be able to unlock characters in the order i want and do classic mode in the order i want

 

[Ajimu]

Correct me if I'm wrong but there's not 75, only 67 characters to unlock. (Starting with 8 already unlocked)

Let's say if you play with 2/3/4 controllers it's half the time (every 5mins you unluck a character).
I plan to invite friends over day 1.

Our rules are usually 3 stocks, items on, 5min timer, random stage (please Custom Random be a thing)
We usually finish in 3-4min, so we won't do an unlock per fight but one every 2 fights, so every 7minutes approximately.
Count 1 min to beat the challenger, so 8min total.

8*65 = 520min = 8h40min.
Let's say we start at 9p.m.
We probably won't last till 4.40a.m, but if we don't do it on the 7th (Friday after work is hard for a full night) but start at 5p.m on Saturday, we take a one hour diner break, all characters are unlocked by 2.40a.m. on Sunday.

Works for me.

Plus, if we wait till Saturday afternoon, I can unbox and start WoL by myself on Friday, play 2-3h, unlock 10-15 characters, then play 2-3h Saturday morning, unlock 10-15 more, that will be only 35-45 characters remaining for the party.
Let's say 40. So 320min = 5h20min.
All characters will be unlocked before midnight on Saturday.

Sweet !


PS : I talk about Custom Random because that was amazing in Brawl (didn't own Sm4sh), you could play random but remove 75m and Hanenbow.
MyMusic is also awesome, I want to have different musics per stage, but I do enjoy some more than others.
I wish we had the same thing for Random Character : Customize the frequency of each character appearing when you select Random (customize it per Username, plus one for Bots maybe ?), and also customize the frequency of each specific alt for each fighter. Let's say I play only random but when playing Corrin I want only female Corrin. Or I have a favorite Koopaling. Etc, etc.
This is the option I would add to smash if I had one choice.

I am, after all, a Random Main.

 

[Stompman]

Is the source on this trustworthy? Also, if 2 players cuts tine in half, do 4 controllers cut it into one fourth?

 

[HeavenWolfHD]

Do we know how to unlock music if needed ?

 

[Ajimu]

You can buy music tracks at an in-game shop.
Don't know if CDs will pop as in the old games though.

 

[thespoiler]

You don’t need all of the controllers to self destruct. Just put yourself in your own team against all of the other controllers, one stock, then SD yourself and that’s it. That’s what I’m gonna do if more players=faster unlocks.

 

[HeavenWolfHD]

Why more controllers unlock faster ?

Also how work the shop for CDs ?

 

[PF9]

I did some digging around on Twitter and found some useful info.

So after ample testing I can confirm that unlocks happen every single fight but there’s a 10 minute cooldown between unlocks.

So you can play 20 matches in 10 mins or be in training or in the menu for 10 mins then play a 1 stock SD match and both will unlock only 1 char.

— Chiroz (@ChirozDR) November 26, 2018

So VS. mode matches have a 10 minute cool down timer on unlocking characters but you can bypass this timer by closing the game and reopening it which resets the timer which should make the process much quicker. WoL and Classic are not affected by the timer.

Armed with this info, I will use specific characters for each unlock battle in most cases (mostly related characters by series or whatnot)

 

[GhostYB]

honestly love the way this is ordered. its scrammbled and theres so many ways to unlock characters. sounds weird but i honest to god love that no one will have the same characters being unlocked by order

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Who still needs their clsssic mode character


How much longer do we have to wait?

 

[Robin Lucina]

Needing nearly 350mins is fixed?
Do we surly neede 750mins? That's more than 10hrs!!

 

[HeavenWolfHD]

I see a video where it saids that you can (not 100% sure) do a 1 Stock fight where you SD, unlock your character then quit Smash Ultimate then re-open the game and it will reset the 10 minutes timer (or somethings like that)

 

[TheBuzzSaw]

Oops. I was viewing the wrong page.

A fighter per match sounds pretty good.

 

[Yoshisaurus Rex]

Anyone else kind of worried the launch update will get rid of the cooldown reset?