I dispise the "If you want tournaments with items, start your own". 'Lest we forget, there once were item-based tournaments. What happened to them? Non-item tournament players stamped them out.
The issue is this. Without major backing, tournaments, with items or otherwise, will fail. If, somehow, a new group came along to back an item tournament, non-item tournament players would, once again, stamp them out.
Umm, no they don't. That's the steriotypee that is only true 99.9% of the time, created by retarted casual players (I'm not calling casual play retarted; I'm aiming at specific casuals), or as we call them, trolls and 4channers. Simply put, items were removed over time, due to the fact that would you want a random factor in a game you could win=???? No!
In not so close matchups, you could never beat Ken. But with items on low or very low, a random barrel explosion caused by a Fox laser blast might kill Ken randomly against PC Chris, Mew2King, or other top pros. And what is your reaction=???? F***ing BREAK THE CONTROLLER! (seriously, I hate bomb-ombs and Melee barrel and crates that explode to EXTREMES!) Make that at a MLG tournament/big tournament final round match, and you'd be pissed. Honeestly, that type of stuff happens all the time with items at high levels of play.
Items got turned off over 3 years-from medium all items, to medium about half the items, to low with fewer items, very low with very few items, to off. Gradually they disappeared, after 3 years. The Melee competitive scene has been around 6 years, so that's been half it's time. It's not that the non-item tourament players will flame you for it, it's that idiots create steriotypes and BELIEVE IT, and that they don't want to put their money on it. If you want to run a item-based tourney, go ahead. No one really skilled will show up to put their money on it.
In the end, a high skilled played would have to be CRAZY to play with items with someone who is a bit worse at a finals of a major tournament, with major money on the line, as well as reputation.
LOL. So you come to us, the people who have been part of the scene competitively for years and tell us that we have our history wrong?
There was no stamping out of items tournaments. People just opted to adopt a no items rule set. There is nothing more and nothing less to it than that.
I love watching Mookie own threads like this. Seriously, we sholdn't cross off items yet, but we shouldn't bash the Melee tournament scene for some of your stupid lack of knowledge (YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE)! Seriously, stop speaking out of your crack some of you, and think with your mind!
In other words, wait and see. My advice to the competitve community to have items as a OPTION at first, but ban a few (golden hammer, hammer, bomb-ombs, healing [except the team heal], and super spicy curry) overpowered/dumb ones. So ya, don't jump to conclusions competitive community, like some steriotypical lies said you did! XD
edit: ihavespaceballs is GOD!
