Ayce God
RIP Nova 9
yo, i became a huge fan of the japanese wario abadango not too long ago and im convinced hes top three in the world. is that pretty much the the clear consensis between you guys or am i giving him way too much credit.
-
Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
Dirtiest Player in the Game - Wario Social Thread
- Thread starter TheReflexWonder
- Start date
One-Up
Smash Apprentice
i love that japanese double wario team.
Croi
Smash Lord
Sure am. Apex 2012 was my first OOR tournament and I choked hard; hopefully I should be good to go this time.
Strawhat64
Smash Ace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3HODXPzumo&feature=plcp
So me and Reflex team on this tourney....
did pretty good lol.
PS: Sorry if I PK fire spawn the second match but mehs.
So me and Reflex team on this tourney....
did pretty good lol.
PS: Sorry if I PK fire spawn the second match but mehs.
Iota
Smash Lord
Can any of y'all give me tips for Lucas? I'm probably gonna end up playing vs Mekos in an NC tourney saturday =C
waldorf2007
Smash Ace
you'll have to get past my ****ty lucas first.
YEEEEE
get down here
YEEEEE
get down here
Lord Chair
Smash Master
its actually fairly hard to straight up punish whatever lucas does
edit: by the way with regards to olimar: tires actually do work once you have a stock lead and they work fairly well on FD, too lazy atm to explain why
edit: by the way with regards to olimar: tires actually do work once you have a stock lead and they work fairly well on FD, too lazy atm to explain why
Iota
Smash Lord
The only thing I really know about Lucas is DI up to avoid dair gimmicks, GR to f-smash, and what Lord Chair said about Lucas being a pain in the *** to punish. If anyone has any other tips or tricks that would help with approaching, zoning, punishing, etc. it would be greatly appreciated. ^^;
Happy face @ LC saying tires are actually decent vs Olimar. c:
Happy face @ LC saying tires are actually decent vs Olimar. c:
Lord Chair
Smash Master
Thing is, once they clash with a non-purple they become a decent wall and throwing them upwards is actually a decent tool. Once you have a stock lead there's a certain point when it no longer matters how many pukmonz are thrown at you and the tires actually serve a purpose especially considering the fact that at this point there's really no risk in taking out the bike.
With regards to FD: the lack of platforms on this stage helps Wario greatly. The size of it gives Olimar the ability to just run below Wario whenever he spots a double jump or full hop. That's the interesting thing about this stage in this matchup: dair becomes a whole lot more viable in terms of an approach tool but at the same time Olimar gets more room to actually counter it entirely. If you commit to height Olimar has lots of options with which to reset the situation.
That's where tires come in. Tires clashing with pikmin become bouncing, making it fairly easy to get them bouncing in this matchup. A bouncing tire prevents Olimar from dashing underneath you and can play a role in creating situations in which Olimar gets forced to confront Wario's vertical approaches without having hard, direct counters.
On Smashville/Battlefield this doesn't work as well because the entire zoning aspect of the matchup becomes different as the stage size decreases and more platforms exist. Also, tires become fairly useless as Olimar gets more purples since they just eat tires.
With regards to FD: the lack of platforms on this stage helps Wario greatly. The size of it gives Olimar the ability to just run below Wario whenever he spots a double jump or full hop. That's the interesting thing about this stage in this matchup: dair becomes a whole lot more viable in terms of an approach tool but at the same time Olimar gets more room to actually counter it entirely. If you commit to height Olimar has lots of options with which to reset the situation.
That's where tires come in. Tires clashing with pikmin become bouncing, making it fairly easy to get them bouncing in this matchup. A bouncing tire prevents Olimar from dashing underneath you and can play a role in creating situations in which Olimar gets forced to confront Wario's vertical approaches without having hard, direct counters.
On Smashville/Battlefield this doesn't work as well because the entire zoning aspect of the matchup becomes different as the stage size decreases and more platforms exist. Also, tires become fairly useless as Olimar gets more purples since they just eat tires.
Croi
Smash Lord
Sounds about right.
Iota
Smash Lord
R.I.P. Wario social. 
Croi
Smash Lord
It'll be alright, you practice necromancy after all
Iota
Smash Lord
I'm too lazy to cast a resurrection spell though. :<
There aren't any Warios left.
waldorf2007
Smash Ace
I'm switching almost entirely to wario in tournament now, my DK is just getting bodied by too many falcos. and DDDs but my wario isn't doing much better.
Iota
Smash Lord
Waldorf ask Scotty for help then, I'd also be willing to help you next time I go down to NC too. 
waldorf2007
Smash Ace
Scotty quit recently. I got 4th at the last NCSU going almost all wario, only went down to Stingers because he knows me too well for me to beat him anymore -_- I know how to play the wario game, but I'm still bad at waft setups, and at some of the split second tech. like certain ways of getting the bike away or out. I can do glide toss tires to fsmash though that **** is amazing.
Iota
Smash Lord
The only waft set ups that really work are fair->waft and tire->waft. Hitting with waft outside of that is basically just reads and knowing what moves are laggy enough for you to punish with it.
Good ways to get the bike out are usually on high up or moving plats (SV's plat, top plat of Delfino, etc.). Breaking the bike or getting it offstage is all about finding the right opportunity to do it. I usually break my bike with u-tilt/nair since it's the easiest way that commits the least without staling something important. Getting the bike offstage is just a matter of getting close enough to chopper hop.
TBH I still have trouble doing full GT->f-smash, good job if you can do that consistently lol.
I'll try to help you with dealing with Stingers if I go to an NC tourney soon, he's a really hard rob <.<
Good ways to get the bike out are usually on high up or moving plats (SV's plat, top plat of Delfino, etc.). Breaking the bike or getting it offstage is all about finding the right opportunity to do it. I usually break my bike with u-tilt/nair since it's the easiest way that commits the least without staling something important. Getting the bike offstage is just a matter of getting close enough to chopper hop.
TBH I still have trouble doing full GT->f-smash, good job if you can do that consistently lol.
I'll try to help you with dealing with Stingers if I go to an NC tourney soon, he's a really hard rob <.<
waldorf2007
Smash Ace
I've given up on Stingers I never beat him now unless he just plays random. he knows me so well that nothing I can do ever phases him or his gameplay. the only way to beat him is to play a solid game that he knows but still can't do anything about, and it ends up being extremely boring and not fun when I do that.
I know about the "guaranteed" stuff but the character specific punishes are what I need help with. the punishable stuff and timing for knowing if I'm going to fall with dair or get a waft.
I know about the "guaranteed" stuff but the character specific punishes are what I need help with. the punishable stuff and timing for knowing if I'm going to fall with dair or get a waft.
Hey...
Thanks, Masky.
Thanks, Masky.
Iota
Smash Lord
What...whoever wrote that is stupid. F-smash doesn't even kill puff at 70% at the ledge...
Croi
Smash Lord
Sure it does.
Mario Circuit is the standard, yes? Or am I mistaken?
Mario Circuit is the standard, yes? Or am I mistaken?
Iota
Smash Lord
You are mistaken. I'm positive that luigi's mansion is the standard
| Big D |
Smash Master
Okay so I found this gem and for those with custom music, this absolutely has to be your victory theme.
Croi name search this please.
Croi name search this please.
Iota
Smash Lord
Must...have...that..song.
Croi
Smash Lord
| Big D |
Smash Master
Thanks, I made my own a few days a go because of how genius it was.
There's a loop and I left it on while we went out for Pizza. Anyhoo I start eating and the people around the TV turn it off.
There's a loop and I left it on while we went out for Pizza. Anyhoo I start eating and the people around the TV turn it off.
Sensei Seibrik
Smash Hero
so, i'm fairly confident i've recently reinvented wario's metagame....
im godlike
im godlike
Iota
Smash Lord
o:
Enlighten us Seibrik
Enlighten us Seibrik
Sensei Seibrik
Smash Hero
hint: it involves an old AT involving the bike
Big talk...