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Direct Leak from 2 Channel (Spoilers) [ANOTHER FAKE?]

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Santini

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Here are the flaws I noticed:

1. 7 LoZ characters (3 of which are Link). Just seems unlikely

2. Spelled "Sheik" wrong

3. Only 3 3rd parties? And so obvious ones at that.

4. The claims about Ray 01 and Pokemon rival contradict the claims of theallmightygoat (that credible sounding blogger who gives new "leaked" info every day). Therefore one is lying. And so this roster already has like a 50% chance at being fake
 

OrlanduEX

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Oh lawd. YET another leaker posting his own supposed final roster without giving us a single reason why we should believe him over the other leakers.
And of course, a lot of naive dreamers are going to take this as fact without a second thought, likely to be disappointed in 2 weeks.

Also, 2chan is literally the Japanese 4chan. It is NOT credible. Many lies start there.
 

evilflame101

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I'm going to have to agree with you.
I will add to the motion, the one thing i don't quite agree with is the pokemon rival.

Also if this is true, i guessed the starting roster to the lettter, as i said sakurai would not refer to hidden characters online as a problem, and would not say is the character immediatly spoiled for you? If he himself was spoiling the hidden characters on his site, which is why i came to believe that the starting roster would be the entire dojo, with maybe Captian falcon, and minus snake. I can see them giving sonic as a starting, because it would sell more, but i thought snake would be hidden.
 

TheMuffinMan0311

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Fake.

For one, 2 channel (or 2chan as it's more commonly known) is not a "blog", which the source of this leak clearly doesn't know, it's a Japanese imageboard, or in more lax terms, it a Japanese forum.

Secondly, I checked 2chan's video game section, which would be the source of this leak if it indeed came from 2chan, and no such post is to be found. There is no post in 2chan's video game section with this supposed leak.

If you want I can link you to 2chan's video game section, but I would be wary because at the moment the video game section is being raided with porn...which is just more proof that it's nothing more than a forum, and they're no more in-the-know than we are.
 

LeuMasT

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The US equivalent websites are the most unreliable sources of information ever, they practically pride themselves on it. I don't have much faith in a webchannel's authority, especially over Serebii.
 

YSM

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Okay wow, something REALLY needs to be said here. Instead of automatically saying "ZOMG THIS LIST IS FAKE BECAUSE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER ISNT HERE AND I DONT LIKE CHARACTER A", all I can say is look to Melee. Who saw...Dr Mario, Young Link, Pichu, Game and Watch, etc being playable? NO ONE. And guess what? Characters like Diddy Kong, Dedede, MetaKnight, Wario, and others were HIGHLY expected. But they didn't make the Melee cut. The bottom line is, YOU WILL NOT AGREE with the list when it is revealed. This list is not fake because you dont like Pokemon Rival or because Isaac isn't in it.


That being said, let's stop wasting our time whining about our doubts, and start finding out whether or not this is actually true. Note that there is NO link. We need a link first. Then, when we get that link, WE need to translate it. First, to make sure Gamefaqers didn't claim to translate it(and in doing so, add their own characters), and second, to see the source behind the post. Let's put our minds to good use rather than writing it off completely because you don't think Baby Mario and Luigi is in it. I don't either, but after Melee's list you can't take anything for granted. In fact, this just might be weird enough to be true.
 

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Okay wow, something REALLY needs to be said here. Instead of automatically saying "ZOMG THIS LIST IS FAKE BECAUSE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER ISNT HERE AND I DONT LIKE CHARACTER A", all I can say is look to Melee. Who saw...Dr Mario, Young Link, Pichu, Game and Watch, etc being playable? NO ONE. And guess what? Characters like Diddy Kong, Dedede, MetaKnight, Wario, and others were HIGHLY expected. But they didn't make the Melee cut. The bottom line is, YOU WILL NOT AGREE with the list when it is revealed. This list is not fake because you dont like Pokemon Rival or because Isaac isn't in it.


That being said, let's stop wasting our time whining about our doubts, and start finding out whether or not this is actually true. Note that there is NO link. We need a link first. Then, when we get that link, WE need to translate it. First, to make sure Gamefaqers didn't claim to translate it(and in doing so, add their own characters), and second, to see the source behind the post. Let's put our minds to good use rather than writing it off completely because you don't think Baby Mario and Luigi is in it. I don't either, but after Melee's list you can't take anything for granted. In fact, this just might be weird enough to be true.
You're the smartest man alive.
 

Dragothel

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ISAAC

Other than that ^ I like this roster very very much, but I am pretty skeptical because of all of the "Prophets" lately. Lets hope this is true.

Pokemon Rival? WIN!
 

ShadowLink84

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ZSS to be selected separately?
Sheik selected separately?

I think it fake.

Furthermore, in the melee roster leak the guy released a picture that showed the roster.
It also makes no sense to make sheik and ZSS separately selected since they can easily did in melee. Hold A
 

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Throw in Megaman and I'd be all for this list!

But, fake, due to Sonic and Snake being starting characters when it's already been established that they are unlockables...
 

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Well.

Excuse me for voicing out my opinion.

If you like this supposed "roster", fine.
Don't go out calling other people names, it only makes you seem like a little kid. (Which I bet you are.

ANYWAYS, I'm gonna jump the boat here and say that the REAL OFFICIAL roster will have some similarities to this roster...minus some unecessary added in characters. (PKMN RIVAL...)
Naw I just like to quote Pure Pwnage a lot. I do it to a lot of people don't take it too personally.
 

Mr. M

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Eh...

That being said, let's stop wasting our time whining about our doubts, and start finding out whether or not this is actually true. Note that there is NO link. We need a link first. Then, when we get that link, WE need to translate it.
http://www2.2ch.net/2ch.html

Good luck. :E But I agree with your post. That's like saying you hate a cheese burger for having cheese on it, and it cannot exist because the cheese is on it. :laugh: Let you guys chew on that corny analogy.
 

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Okay wow, something REALLY needs to be said here. Instead of automatically saying "ZOMG THIS LIST IS FAKE BECAUSE MY FAVORITE CHARACTER ISNT HERE AND I DONT LIKE CHARACTER A", all I can say is look to Melee. Who saw...Dr Mario, Young Link, Pichu, Game and Watch, etc being playable? NO ONE. And guess what? Characters like Diddy Kong, Dedede, MetaKnight, Wario, and others were HIGHLY expected. But they didn't make the Melee cut. The bottom line is, YOU WILL NOT AGREE with the list when it is revealed. This list is not fake because you dont like Pokemon Rival or because Isaac isn't in it.


That being said, let's stop wasting our time whining about our doubts, and start finding out whether or not this is actually true. Note that there is NO link. We need a link first. Then, when we get that link, WE need to translate it. First, to make sure Gamefaqers didn't claim to translate it(and in doing so, add their own characters), and second, to see the source behind the post. Let's put our minds to good use rather than writing it off completely because you don't think Baby Mario and Luigi is in it. I don't either, but after Melee's list you can't take anything for granted. In fact, this just might be weird enough to be true.
QFT. It's funny because most people writing it off are just "It's FAKE. One reason: Pokemon Rival." What? How is that reasonable. NO ONE saw Pokemon Trainer coming. Had you seen him on a leaked roster a few months ago you would have written him off too.
 

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i don't believe the starting roster, at least not most of it

it's just i thought and primed myself for Geno, and possibly Megaman, but i tried to trick and convince myself that there were only going to be 2 third party character ((Pac-Man in no way deserves a spot at all; Joust/Tamagon would occupy his place))

But seeing the concept of a reality that in some way confirmed my deepest fears is a little hard to take in...
 

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YSM: read all the posts. Peple have already stated other reasons why the roaster isn't very ideal.
Mainly because Snake and Sonic ARE supposed to be unlockable (cosidering they have their on "____ joins the brawl" videos).

Don't assume that everyone here said "OMG it's false because soandso is/isn't on the list"

P.S. Thank you for not being all like "Omg he's not 1n !!one1" since no one does that, and people think others actually do do that seriously..
 

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I find it odd that because it's 2ch and it's Japanese it automatically has a better chance of being real than all the BS posted on GameFAQs everyday.

It's fake guys. In less than 15 days, we'll know EVERYTHING we need to know. Just be patient.
 

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I am skimming 2channel right now and I see NO roster like this ANYWHERE. There are tons of Smash Bros. topics and no mentions of this.

On another note, all the threads seem to have similar fake leaks. I keep seeing people arguing over Sheik, Geno, and Wolf.
 

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noone remembers sakurai's blog


Sakurai's blog before the current Dojo went up. Sukapon was considered for SSB, but thrown out due to the impossibility of translating his legless, blob form to Smash.
 

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Wait, who the hell is Andy? The return of NOA_Andy? :laugh:

Could it be that guy Andy from Advance Wars? Talk about bringing in the calvary to take on SSE.....


Not so sure about this one.

Maybe.
 

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Just because they're Japanese and on 2ch (think 4chan but Japanese and a little smarter) doesn't mean they don't lie.

Three Kirby starters? Sonic as a starter when Sakurai said during the E for All update that he would be unlockable and only available for demo purposes? This couldn't be faker.
 

Mythos13

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im extremely skeptical, no sonic and snake unlocks? really that makes no sence to me. it sounds like a fan service type of list. ima stick to almightygoats updates, he SEEMS way more credible
 

Sapere Aude!

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It's a doubtful list, but I'm glad to see Geno on all these character list leaks.

I kind of find it funny how the same group of people go back and forth on this. There is a string of people saying "not real blah blah blah" and then a couple people come back and say "don't doubt, melee, Melee!", and then more of the "fake"s come back, completing the cycle. Good stuff.
 

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The starting roster IS FEASIBLE. We know Sonic and Snake are unlockable, but we also know that Dedede and Meta Knight appear in the first few events which, by Melee's standards, means they are NOT unlockables--they are starters. It's not THAT farfetched.

Regardless, the guy just posted this to get a rise out of people. 2chan is no different than Gamefaqs in many, many ways. It sucks because I like this roster, but c'mon.
 

twilightsword

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Reading some of the previous posts, I'm beginning to feel relieved now. :)

2chan people can mess around sometimes and post fake rosters too.
Just because it's from a Japanese forum, as stated earlier, doesn't mean it's always necessarily real.

The Japanese are people too...they have a sense of humor.
 

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I like the list, and I'd love to believe it.

But still, this lacks a lot of necessary evidence. So, I can't say I trust it. I'd like to (because I have absolutely no problem with it), but at this moment in time, I refuse to put my trust in something that even lacks a link to the original post/photographic proof/other form of evidence besides it being from a "credited source."

That being said, I love this set to death, and would be absolutely thrilled if it were true. I don't see why people complain about certain characters wasting a spot. So what if YOU don't play as them, I'm sure somebody will. I'll probably never pick up Mario, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna bash him because I won't use him.
 

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Interesting, but definitely screams "Fake!" to me. Some of the character decisions are just too stupid.
 
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