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Diddy Kong Racing Mafia! [Finished! Town Wins!]

th3kuzinator

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Kuz (4) - Nabe, UTD, Glyph, July
Nabe (4) Roxy, Asdioh, X1, Kuz

Well at least I cemented in the fact that the lynch was between us two today, lol.
 

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@July: You give me too much credit. I am basing my case on pure scummy play but if you wanna trade role speculation blows then I will be happy it with you. You think I could be an indy tracker yes? Firstly, why would I show up guilty to cop investigations? Second, if you suspect such an indy then what is his wincon? If he is a last man standing w/ no kill then he is WAY underpowered. In inception, if you recall, the indy was given bullet proof AND unlynchable status until a certain player was killed. Wincon similar to that of a Warlock or Piper? Neither of those roles would allow the player to use that power AND watch/track someone. It would be their sole weapon. Things simply don't make sense for me being indy.
This is the first time I've been in a game with an indy, idk what exactly an indy can or cannot be capable of all I know is they want to survive. You also want to survive. I have a guilty on you. I'm still suspicious. I also find the chance that I'm insane when there was an alignment switching power role for scum unlikely, and I doubt there would be one for indy then as well. So that leaves option of miller for getting the guilty on you and I don't see much else.

How about this: we lynch Nabe, if he's town, we most likely don't lose. During the night, you investigate Glyph. Kuz (attempts) to track X1. If you get an Innocent on Glyph, we lynch Kuz. If you get a Guilty on Glyph, well, that would be very unlikely ._.
And Roxy protect July, obv
Meh, my vote still stays. If Nabe lynch goes through and he flips town then I'm sane and I want Kuz dead toMorrow. Still I dislike the fact that Kuz has talked his way out of the guilty and his lynch, and I have a bad feeling about keeping him alive.
 

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Kuz (4) - Nabe, UTD, Glyph, July
Nabe (4) Roxy, Asdioh, X1, Kuz
This seems right.
"Confirmed" townies voting Kuz: 2
"Confirmed" townies voting Nabe: 2

Nabe I hope you return soon so you can turn yourself in and hopefully end the game so I can use this game as a reference in other games ^_^
 

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Meh, my vote still stays. If Nabe lynch goes through and he flips town then I'm sane and I want Kuz dead toMorrow. Still I dislike the fact that Kuz has talked his way out of the guilty and his lynch, and I have a bad feeling about keeping him alive.
If the indy wins 6v1 then I'm going to (ノಥ益ಥ)ノ ┻━┻
 

th3kuzinator

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It bothers you that I argued out of my own lynch?

I am not going to idly sit here and watch myself get lynched because you have a supposed guilty. If something about my case bothers you, please address it so we can discuss it.
 

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This is the first time I've been in a game with an indy, idk what exactly an indy can or cannot be capable of all I know is they want to survive. You also want to survive. I have a guilty on you. I'm still suspicious. I also find the chance that I'm insane when there was an alignment switching power role for scum unlikely, and I doubt there would be one for indy then as well. So that leaves option of miller for getting the guilty on you and I don't see much else.
If our scum is a traitor, "Traitors appears as 'innocent' to cops"

If our scum is a SK or something similar "Serial Killer is generally considered to be one of the hardest roles to win with. To compensate for this, some mods have been known to give Serial Killers extra abilities, such as making them immune to either some or all night kills, or having them show up as innocent to Cop investigation. "

honestly, whoever our indy is is most likely innocent to investigations. I doubt there are four mafia, so Kuzs guilty is probably the result of that weird result-switching ability, or more likely, miller.

July is probably not insane due to there being a godfather.
 

July

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Kuz: It just bothers me that i get an inno on Nabe and a guilty on you, the idea of me being insane seems ridiculous to me since there was a cheerleader and no one listens to me ;-; you could be miller but would the Time Machine role also come up as miller? I feel that is unlikely as well. I'm not taking anything for granted, I'm taking my result as a possibility of you being caught anti-town/scum and I'm pursuing that for toDay.

Also, Asdioh, but didn't X1 say that indies sometimes come up as guilty?
 

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July is probably not insane due to there being a godfather.
Nightmare Before Christmas Mafia said:
10.) Meta-Kirby, Oogie Boogie, Mafia Godfather, Modkilled D3!
7.) Riddle, Barrel, Mafia Prankster, Knocked Out D3!
6.) Swiss, Mayor, Town Crier, Kidnapped N3!
14.) Zen, Behemoth, Town Actor, Knocked Out D4!
11.) Gordito, Clown with the Tear-Away-Face, Town Vanilla, Modkilled D4!
8.) Two Pichus One Pic, Doctor Finklestein, Town Paranoid Doctor, Kidnapped N4!
15.) Glyph, Lock, Mafia Schemer, Knocked Out D5!
1.) th3kuzinator, Jack Skellington, Town Loving Naive Cop, Kidnapped N5!
2.) Tandora, Sally, Town Loving Fortune Teller, Chased after Jack N5!
Yeah, I still mad.
 

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And tell me, July, when I flip town who're you going to go after? You can't just assume Nabe is the culprit anymore as you will figure something did change the results.

You will end up wifoming yourself into a corner between X1, Nabe and Glyph. Lets just win the game for town now with a Nabe lynch. If not, I am pretty much doomed toMorrow by your standards, but I have faith Nabe will flip scum.
 

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So you inherently don't trust me because of Celebrity salt?

If I didn't feel it was so obvious that Nabe was scum, I would commend you for your skepticism.
 

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And tell me, July, when I flip town who're you going to go after? You can't just assume Nabe is the culprit anymore as you will figure something did change the results.

You will end up wifoming yourself into a corner between X1, Nabe and Glyph. Lets just win the game for town now with a Nabe lynch. If not, I am pretty much doomed toMorrow by your standards, but I have faith Nabe will flip scum.
I don't think Glyph is indy, he really didn't seem concerned about self-preservation at all. Depends on what you flip. If you flip some miller type role then I would say X1. If you flip just Time Machine thingy and no reason why you would be scum then its equal between Nabe and X1.

Basically if its not you I strongly think it is between Nabe and X1 and will pursue one of them.
 

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If we lynch nabe her sanity will be pretty much proven. Since she gotten an inno and a guilty, she can only be insane or sane.

Nabe lynch still the best course of option.
 

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Kuz: Really I'm just waiting for someone to make a decision, and making it clear why I refuse to budge on this. I know I'm being stubborn but I'm standing by my vote because to me it is the obvious thing to do in light of my results and my own experience in mafia.

UTD: If Kuz flips town that is the only reason I need a sanity check. If we lynch Nabe and he's town then I'm sane. If we lynch him and he's scum I'm insane but game should be over. If we lynch Kuz and he flips scum I'm sane and game should be over. If we lynch Kuz and he flips town with no explanation (not miller) then I need a sanity check.
 

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Hence lynching Nabe will only yield two results:

-Game won for town

or

-July Sane

while Kuz lynch gives us much less clarification to work with for toMorrow.
 

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If we lynch nabe her sanity will be pretty much proven. Since she gotten an inno and a guilty, she can only be insane or sane.

Nabe lynch still the best course of option.
Or we can lynch Kuz and end the game because he is scum and is obviously worried about dying. That would be the best course of action imo.
 

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Think what you want July, but I want a Nabe lynch because it will give town more to work with toMorrow. I don't care whether you interpret this as self preservation or pro-town behavior but I will argue against my lynch because I know my lynch is anti-town.
 

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Hence lynching Nabe will only yield two results:

-Game won for town

or

-July Sane

while Kuz lynch gives us much less clarification to work with for toMorrow.
This.

Really, if mislynching after a 100% scum lynch ratio causes us to lose the game, then I don't really care, it was a learning experience.

I still think whoever the last scum is will turn up Innocent, which practically clears Kuz in my eyes.

@Kuz Naive example: yeah but that's different from Insane. Besides, what's the point of Godfather plus... oh, right. o_O damn that's a mindgame.
Still

betting July's sane. >_>

(I also think making cops anything besides Sane and Insane is dumb, unless maybe there are 2 cops or something like in DR upick)
 

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look at this setup:
Sane cop
town Miller PR that could make sense with flavor backing it up
mafia godfather
two mafia that legitimately turn out guilty
one indy that turns up innocent

results in 3 potential guilties, 2 of them actually being scum. and 10 potential innocents, two of them not actually being town.

then add to that the ability Tery had, which could **** with investigations.

It makes sense to me.
 

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A Nabe lynch will give info to work with toMorrow; however, a Kuz lynch will ensure there is no toMorrow when he flips scum.

Kuz, you infer that a Nabe lynch means there will be a toMorrow. I'm willing to bet on Kuz scum at this point, he wouldn't say that Nabe lynch gives us info for toMorrow if he expected Nabe to flip scum.
 

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If you lynch Kuz and he flips town, you are insane. If it says he is a Miller, then you are sane.

Hitting scum Kuz or miller Kuz (cop is sane)
Hitting town Nabe (cop is sane).
Hitting town Kuz (cop is insane).
Hitting scum Nabe (cop is insane).

No?
 

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Yes, that is correct, assuming the indy isn't an alignment switching role which seems super unlikely considering the godfather and cheerleader scum roles already designed to mess with cop.
 

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A Nabe lynch will give info to work with toMorrow; however, a Kuz lynch will ensure there is no toMorrow when he flips scum.

Kuz, you infer that a Nabe lynch means there will be a toMorrow. I'm willing to bet on Kuz scum at this point, he wouldn't say that Nabe lynch gives us info for toMorrow if he expected Nabe to flip scum.
So you wanna play word games with me now? Want me to quote for you all the times I said that I don't think there will even be a toMorrow because Nabe is flipping scum?

You know full well what I meant by that statement and it dissapoints me thats what you are using to debunk my argument.

@UTD: and if I flip town thats not miller?

This decision should be a no-brainer
 

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@Kuz: I want you lynched because I think its a no-brainer that you are scum, so I will argue with you until I get my point across to town.
 

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Do I really have to do an iso of Nabe and Kuz?

x_______________x

freaking inability to remember everything everyone said.

July, for now I disagree with 1786.
 

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Aight I'm actually fine with a Nabe lynch too. Anyone against me hammering?
 

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Do I really have to do an iso of Nabe and Kuz?

x_______________x

freaking inability to remember everything everyone said.

July, for now I disagree with 1786.
No problem, and if you feel like doing ISOs I understand and that's deff a good thing, but forewarning...Kuz has 211 posts lol. Nabe has 87.
 

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i really want glyph to hammer nabe right now but

1. nabe hasnt been on
2. MOD HASN'T BEEN ON D:

freaking

do it anyway imo
 

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HERO TIME *****ES

unvote vote: nabe


 
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