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DGames Summer Mafia Bash - Day 2 Begins. Deadline Day 2 begins - Deadline 8:00 A.M. CST Monday 6/24
- Thread starter #HBC | Red Ryu
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It's only that setup if he is Tracker.
If he is, why the **** is he asking where I went when, if I was Bodyguard, I'd be dead for targeting last night?
If he is, why the **** is he asking where I went when, if I was Bodyguard, I'd be dead for targeting last night?
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
and if you were tracked to a dead body and alive, hed literally have no reason to pressure you because youd 100% be mafia
My last post was saying that mafia jailer is unlikely, btw, and that I agree with Tom.
Also I don't believe that Ryker is Bodyguard or Town Joat. If Bodyguard, I don't think he'd be this vitriolic towards Poyzin claiming Tracker, instead choosing to be open about not stating his night action since he'd now have confirmation of the exact setup. Two townies would be completely confirmed.
If JOAT, I don't see a world where he wouldn't counterclaim to take out a scum.
It all comes down to what Poyzin's result was imo. But I may also be completely wrong, so I'd appreciate input.
Also I don't believe that Ryker is Bodyguard or Town Joat. If Bodyguard, I don't think he'd be this vitriolic towards Poyzin claiming Tracker, instead choosing to be open about not stating his night action since he'd now have confirmation of the exact setup. Two townies would be completely confirmed.
If JOAT, I don't see a world where he wouldn't counterclaim to take out a scum.
It all comes down to what Poyzin's result was imo. But I may also be completely wrong, so I'd appreciate input.
I swear to god Tom, if I die this phase, I'll see you lynched for it
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
at this point, poyzin has no result that would make me want to lynch ryker off of this that isnt "i tracked ryker to marshy" or "i tracked ryker to kevin." the fud surrounding this makes it really ****ing hard to garner reads from all of this too, so why he wouldnt just claim this is beyond me. but there are way more scenarios where i come out wanting to lynch poyzin, many out of spite for how horribly awful this play would turn out to be
To be clear, what I'm saying is that I don't see Ryker as Bodyguard or JOAT if Poyzin is telling the truth.
However, I have no idea what result UP got. If this is some kind of gambit, I'm going to flip a table. (I won't get actually angry and rage in here, but you know what I mean)
Can the scum vig send the vig action AND the kill? Leaving NinJoat to do their thing?
However, I have no idea what result UP got. If this is some kind of gambit, I'm going to flip a table. (I won't get actually angry and rage in here, but you know what I mean)
What I'm wondering is why he didn't immediately claim result if that happened.
Can the scum vig send the vig action AND the kill? Leaving NinJoat to do their thing?
im literally not going to entertain the idea that you are a vanilla townie until UP posts again and then after that probably not either. UP claim tracker as non-tracker (scum or town) makes no sense to me. UP getting a bingo on your and floppin that **** on the table ASAP instead of waiting does make sense to me.
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it seems to me that he wanted to catch ryker lying about something and fought off the urge to drop his claim as long as possible but couldn't contain it. correct me if anyone disagrees with this perception. i have no idea if scum vig can shoot two people in one night. but i doubt that happened too.
#HBC | Gorf
toastin walrus since 4/20 maaaan
This is not an open ended scenario. There is a Counterclaim here that saves me, but I dont want it if it's JOAT with a vig available. If no one CCs then we will be lynching not me or UP until after we see if there's a second double kill.im literally not going to entertain the idea that you are a vanilla townie until UP posts again and then after that probably not either. UP claim tracker as non-tracker (scum or town) makes no sense to me. UP getting a bingo on your and floppin that **** on the table ASAP instead of waiting does make sense to me.
If you're not willing to work with me until then, I'm not gonna have one of those "Sorry buddy, I'll win this one for you," posts.
His claim looks like **** because it is **** and I'm not getting 1 for 1'd.
I'm home now. I need to hook my PC up.
Because I’m west coast time. It’s early.
You are making interesting points on Rockin, which pains me because it’s easier for me to want to disagree with you. But I see where you’re coming from.
Right now I’m with Tom. Ryker has claimed VT, now we gotta wait for UP.
I’m wondering how many second thoughts UP is having based on how bad the reception is to his claim.
UtopianPoyzin
is this going how you thought lol?
lol ok ryker you know you can't live?
there's very few possibilities here:
- UP is town and tracked scumRyker to a dead body yesterday
- UP is scum and is pulling a gambit to get ryker killed for w/e reason I can maaaybe see scum pulling this gambit if Ryker was a PR (specifically a vig/joat or something) and they're tryna cause a mislynch in exchange for UP's life
- UP is newb town non tracker and he's just lying for some reason... doubt this is the case (esp after goign back and lookign at UP's posts earlier toDay) also i don't think you can be that bad to throw the game this way
- UP is newb town tracker and ****ed up somehow... this isn't really possible though. cuz idk how you can mess that up. i was thinking that maybe townRyker could be bodyguard and that's what UP saw... but you'd be dead if you were tracked to a body
the only possibility that really makes sense is the first
actually though now that I've laid these out, option 2 isn't THAT farfetched, since it's pretty powerful to trade newbScum in exchange for one of the most townie players that has a PR. buttt that's still a ****ing stretch
Ryker i don't understand how your plan makes any sense, what does keeping you alive give us... it just pushes this same situation off till tomorrow
oh ppl already covered what i posted
Mac, look at it again from VT Ryker.
If there is a JOAT and he shoots someone, it proves that UP is lying WITHOUT outing who the JOAT is
If there is a JOAT and he shoots someone, it proves that UP is lying WITHOUT outing who the JOAT is
did he not? what i mean is that he did not wait until late in the day for wagons/having to claim and definitely didn't wait until day 3. Day started on Monday and he claimed that same day. am i mischaracterizing this?
yeah. #1628 is a fairly convincing case against rockin in that he was all about doop vocally but then did not vote that way. pythag i personally felt looked pretty clear after doop's flip.
i don't understand this. tom's take here seems correct and obvious to me
i see... hm ok there's some semblance of logic here
but then again that plan doesn't work 100% because a scum jailer / BP could easily **** that up
There are three possible scenarios if you dont just accept that claim.
If there is a JOAT, then there is not a tracker.
If the JOAT shoots someone, we know there is a JOAT.
Therefore we know UP is scum without the JOAT outing himself.
If there is a JOAT, then there is not a tracker.
If the JOAT shoots someone, we know there is a JOAT.
Therefore we know UP is scum without the JOAT outing himself.
Then JOAT claims and we're in the same place, but upside is waaaaay higher than downside.
hey so is it possible that there were 3 shots yesterday and one was blocked?
Upside is game winning good.
Yes, in which case, JOAT claims.
oof
so you're saying there is a town JOAT out there who shot town last night, and there is either a mafia Ninja JOAT or a mafia jailkeeper, and mafia has decided to claim tracker to out the town JOAT?
right the reality of town!Ryker is slim to none but if its real its a big ol scum gambit to somehow out a town joat. which seems really unlikely.
if town joat shot someone night 1, he cannot shoot again until night 4. he has to use his other two powers before he shoots again. so this would NOT work.l
Scum is the only team that could cockblock a kill, so only JOAT kill could not go through.
#HBC | Kary
Fiend of Fire
Lynch Ryker, ask questions later.
Tom, do you know what the roles in this game do?
ryker ya still gotta die
im not gonna focus too much on this anymore cuz it's a distraction. just gonna wait for UP
ran gonna take a look at your stuff now
im not gonna focus too much on this anymore cuz it's a distraction. just gonna wait for UP
ran gonna take a look at your stuff now
You lynch nothing without a chance for every player to CC and you SHOULD wait for a JOAT to shoot if no one does.
If Town JOAT shot Night 1 they can't shoot again until Night 4. Am I wrong?
ofc we need to wait for everyone to weigh in
NO I DONT
Look at me, you horse's ass. You can lynch me only if there isn't a CC. We have GOT his stupid ass. There is no world where we lynch Ryker because I'm VT and the only way that scum get me killed is a lynch where people dont think.
The only gain they can possibly be aiming for is outing the JOAT and that can be sidestepped if people would read the ****ing setup instead of sitting on their ass.
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