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[#HBC | Acrostic]

I never had a problem.

You never reached a boss restriction gate?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You never reached a boss restriction gate?

Well yeah, but I think I was mostly talking about P4 more than P3.

 

[#HBC | Acrostic]

Well yeah, but I think I was mostly talking about P4 more than P3.

Okay.

 

[Gova]

What? If anything, when you can't advance in Tartarus anymore, that's a sign that you should stop grinding and advance the plot.

To be honest though, there's no grind in P3P, even on very hard.

 

[BSL]

I have embraced it at this point, haha.

I saw it linked somewhere just the other day, and I wanted to be like I KNOW THAT GUY IN PERSON but I would've looked like a ****ing nerd if I did and I'M NO NERD

 

[BarDulL]

i recently started a run of p3 fes, but i'm wondering if i should stop my run short and do p3p instead.

edit: i hate that i can't control my party members since they can't abuse battle mechanics in FES, but i like that i can run around the town areas as MC.

 

[Raziek]

i recently started a run of p3 fes, but i'm wondering if i should stop my run short and do p3p instead.

edit: i hate that i can't control my party members since they can't abuse battle mechanics in FES, but i like that i can run around the town areas as MC.

For the love of god, just play Portable.

I haven't played FES to compare it, but you're really gonna want to control your party, lol.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What, you don't like Mitsuru using Marin Karin at the worst possible situations to get your team inevitably killed?

I got my paycheck today, I was hoping to crunch together Bravely Default and Fire Emblem: Awakening but I don't think I can make it happen. I'm leaning on Fire Emblem more than Bravely Default, and since I'm impatient I'll probably buy it at the e-shop store.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I actually enjoy grinding since I like to practice or train people up.

I like the journey to it since it makes the end result so rewarding.

 

[Raziek]

What, you don't like Mitsuru using Marin Karin at the worst possible situations to get your team inevitably killed?

I got my paycheck today, I was hoping to crunch together Bravely Default and Fire Emblem: Awakening but I don't think I can make it happen. I'm leaning on Fire Emblem more than Bravely Default, and since I'm impatient I'll probably buy it at the e-shop store.

Try not do this too often unless you've also purchased a sufficiently large SD card.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Digital copies are gay anyway

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

Digital copies are gay anyway

As a programmer and artist whose entire body of work consists of producing purely digital material...







I endorse this point of view (aside from the Gorfism).

Like, if you're a collector who shelves these things, obviously physical copies are king. But speaking even from a creator's perspective, giving something digital a physical release grants it a degree of respectability in our society. Which might be a symptom of an aging sentimental societal standard, but that's a bubble surrounding and separate from the actual argument. Speaking about games specifically, digital copies do get a bad rap because many paid digital-only games are quick releases that at least lack polish if they aren't just bad. But you lose that small degree of intimacy, too.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

But you lose that small degree of intimacy, too.

I know that feeling where you get a brand new game and you just want to make sweet love to it, it's just not the same when it isn't in your hands to hold.

 

[#HBC | Joker]

I'm the kind of person who likes to have something to put on my shelf. I'm not big on digital distribution. I like that it exists, but I don't like all the talk I hear about how that's the direction things are going. The physical distribution industry for movies and games is definitely shrinking, which is why Blockbuster and Gamestop are going out of business, but that **** will probably always be available at WalMart.

 

[Raziek]

Gamestop is struggling? This is news to me.

Last I heard they've been making a killing on the Used Game market.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

I know that feeling where you get a brand new game and you just want to make sweet love to it, it's just not the same when it isn't in your hands to hold.

not sure if serious
but I respect your right to rut and frot with whatever consenting object lays at your disposal

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

All gorfism aside, I feel like tangibility is an amazing quality when it comes to any artistic medium. Physical copies don't age if treated with care, and I'd say they're just objectively cooler to have. Sure, things like virtual console are much more affordable if you don't have software's corresponding hardware and really just want to play the game, and I 100% vouch for virtual console. Some of those games are awesome and way more worth it than dropping money for an old ass console and its original form (unless you're a collector obv). But for modern games and modern EVERYTHING going digital, it just seems like you're actually getting something less because of the fact that you can't hold it in your hands, or physically lend it to a buddy. Sure there's some convenience, but I think making some space for cartridges is well worth it if you're going to experience the game in the first place.

And then there's pirating, which everyone in the world should be ashamed of if they partake in it.

 

[Raziek]

And then there's pirating, which everyone in the world should be ashamed of if they partake in it.

While I would like to agree with this as a general sentiment, I pirate if there is no other alternative to me.

Primarily foreign language games.

Like, yes, I will gladly throw money at you if you localize Sealed Sword (FE6) or whatever, but because you (the company) have chosen not to, I'm forced to either import and try to play through an untranslated copy (if practical) or emulate and use a fan translation.

I am all about supporting companies, which is why I almost always buy the CEs of whatever RPGs I get, but if I'm not given the chance to do so... I don't feel bad about pirating to obtain the experience that I wouldn't be able to get otherwise.

 

[#HBC | J]

Uh GameStop isn't struggling. Depends on the district you look at but with the new gen console wars they did pretty well.

Biased though since I'm a manager at a gamestop.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

not sure if serious
but I respect your right to rut and frot with whatever consenting object lays at your disposal

I was being totally facetious and playing off your word choice of 'intimacy'.

I'm a manager at a gamestop.

That sounds really boring, do you suggest games to your customers?

While I would like to agree with this as a general sentiment, I pirate if there is no other alternative to me.

Primarily foreign language games.

Spoiler

I follow the same sentiment but I also pirate music sometimes

 

[#HBC | J]

Dude easiest job in the world. I literally just talk about video games all day. Much better than being a stupid mannequin at American Eagle Outfitters.

Most customers are chill. Some are just so angry. But I seriously can't complain when I get paid to discuss video games and chill. You get so much free swag. Plus I get to "rent" any game I want and play them to completion without paying for them.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

While I would like to agree with this as a general sentiment, I pirate if there is no other alternative to me.

Primarily foreign language games.

Like, yes, I will gladly throw money at you if you localize Sealed Sword (FE6) or whatever, but because you (the company) have chosen not to, I'm forced to either import and try to play through an untranslated copy (if practical) or emulate and use a fan translation.

I am all about supporting companies, which is why I almost always buy the CEs of whatever RPGs I get, but if I'm not given the chance to do so... I don't feel bad about pirating to obtain the experience that I wouldn't be able to get otherwise.

You don't need to play video games. You don't need to be able to listen to music on your own personal playlist. It's inherently unfair to the developers and those who are supposed to be making money off of a product they worked hard to make and that you enjoyed. If something is publicly distributed that's different. If we could pirate food or shelter, that'd be different, cuz there are starving people around the world that need food or homeless people that need shelter. But nobody needs the things that are pirated. Sure it's convenient, but so is photocopying money and using it as currency.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Dude easiest job in the world. I literally just talk about video games all day. Much better than being a stupid mannequin at American Eagle Outfitters.

Most customers are chill. Some are just so angry. But I seriously can't complain when I get paid to discuss video games and chill. You get so much free swag. Plus I get to "rent" any game I want and play them to completion without paying for them.

Yea but aren't you guys like soulless money grubbing demons out to make a quick buck on the mindless, therefore plummeting the video game industry into a black hole of mediocre titles becoming best sellers? That's what the internet told me anyway

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

You can't blame a company for supplying call of duty or any other of the mindless 'best sellers' out these days, especially if that's what sells. Customers have to smarten up and demand more quality instead of being satisfied with yesterday's garbage.

Relevant

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I checked what Gamestop has been reporting for sales and revenue, they really haven't been struggling recently.

 

[#HBC | J]

Not really. Most employees have their favorite games and just suggest them. Then there are fanboys of systems/games. And there are the coporate jerk-offs who are just *****.

People just get bitter because they expect full trade value for their games in cash when it mainly goes by pawn shop rules and supply/demand.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Man, I still like that I see Megaman legends 2 go for $60 at some trade in places like megamedia.

That or an N64 that's worth $250.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Playing devils advocate here, but you CAN blame gamestop for recommending ****ty games to ignorant consumers buying products for those that aren't themselves. It gives a bad rep to video games in general, and if you're a company that thrives off of what SHOULD be considered an artistic medium, you should treat it as such instead of a way to make money.

With that being said I acknowledge that GameStop is a business and it isn't their responsibility whether or not a consumer is willing to drop money on a game that isn't worth what it's being sold for. I can poop on a canvas and call it an artistic masterpiece worth millions of dollars, but it isn't until somebody buys into what I'm saying. In the end, with art, the consumer is ALWAYS the deciding factor. Refer to: Andy Warhol.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

People just get bitter because they expect full trade value for their games in cash when it mainly goes by pawn shop rules and supply/demand.

Oh come on. GameStop is a total JOKE when it comes to buying and selling used games. It's less work than selling em on eBay, but I'd rather throw my games in the garbage than sell them to gamestop (and no I'd never throw my games in the garbage).

Edit

Maybe that wasn't clear enough.

Sure, a customer is ******** if they expect to get 60 dollars back for a used game that's old. But I remember having seen my brother sell like 8 ps2 games to gamestop and getting like 10 dollars back. When you turn around and price your used ps2 games at like 10 bucks a pop, you're the devil.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Ok, looking at the moving out thing. Looking at the moving out to a new city thing. Looking at that, need a job for that rent money thing. Got two roommates worth having and got the initial cash money saved. Any advice, DGames? I doubt I'm under prepared for it (I've moved out before, but it was a much more controlled situation).

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Ok, looking at the moving out thing. Looking at the moving out to a new city thing. Looking at that, need a job for that rent money thing. Got two roommates worth having and got the initial cash money saved. Any advice, DGames? I doubt I'm under prepared for it (I've moved out before, but it was a much more controlled situation).

I'd prefer advice from you (and others) as to how you got it all together because I've been struggling to move out for two years now, and right now I'm in a comfortable living situation but I don't want to be there forever and I've planned to try and move out around the end of summer.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

Ok, looking at the moving out thing. Looking at the moving out to a new city thing. Looking at that, need a job for that rent money thing. Got two roommates worth having and got the initial cash money saved. Any advice, DGames? I doubt I'm under prepared for it (I've moved out before, but it was a much more controlled situation).

LOOK FOR AND SECURE A JOB AS MUCH AS YOU CAN BEFORE MOVING.

But that should be obvious.

Honestly just get used to masturbating in the bathroom instead of in your bedroom since you'll likely be sharing those and you'll be fine.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Rofl. Nut up and do it instead of talking about it after about 2 years is what I did to get it this far.

 

[Raziek]

You don't need to play video games. You don't need to be able to listen to music on your own personal playlist. It's inherently unfair to the developers and those who are supposed to be making money off of a product they worked hard to make and that you enjoyed. If something is publicly distributed that's different. If we could pirate food or shelter, that'd be different, cuz there are starving people around the world that need food or homeless people that need shelter. But nobody needs the things that are pirated. Sure it's convenient, but so is photocopying money and using it as currency.

I disagree with this, specifically BECAUSE it is foreign language games.

If I HAD the option to pay them for it, I would. But I don't.

So they're not losing a damn thing by me pirating it.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Also ancient games that is only making money for people on EBay selling them for $200+

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

I'm not here trying to stop the video game pirates of the world. It's ultimately an issue of morality to me. I just don't think a genuine experience with a video game is worth it if paying for it isn't an option. That's the reason why I haven't played Mother 3 yet. Plus don't you feel at least a little dirty when you're playing a pirated game, regardless of the circumstances? But I will say you hold a much more respectable position than most who pirate games.

Edit

Also ancient games that is only making money for people on EBay selling them for $200+

That's what happens when things become rare. If you wanna play a game like, for example, Conker's Bad Fur Day, but you don't feel like dropping the money that comes along with it, you shouldn't feel obligated to play it to the point of stealing the game.

Double edit

It boils down to what I said before: who needs to play video games?

 

[Raziek]

I don't need. I want. I'm human.

Is that wrong?

 

[#HBC | J]

I got Conkers for $70 bucks on N64 and was so worth it.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

Never felt the desire to play that game, but I pity those who didn't pick up Earthbound.

 

[Raziek]

Never felt the desire to play that game, but I pity those who didn't pick up Earthbound.

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