Dexter Mafia ~ ...?

[#HBC | Laundry]

oh gog zen

oh gog that claim

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

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>claiming cop D1

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okay unvote

jesus christ tell me why you are claiming now and what you plan to gain with this claim

 

[T-block]

Sigh... sooo behind.

Calling BS on Ryu's claim. Did you crumb it? Real cop do NOT CC yet.

Soup, why wouldn't he claim? x.x

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

errgghh i was just presenting a case on RR now too >>;

because he was in no way near L-1 or anything and our opnion coulda changed after his explanation.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

also rr, if you're cop...

IF YOU ARE COP WHY ARE YOU NOT SCUMHUNTING.

 

[T-block]

For real, Soup? He was at L-3, and it was pretty clear his lynch was going to happen.

Your reaction does not seem genuine at all.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

L-3 is not L-1, he had just presented an arguement against DH, who if people agreed with him, could get some pressure off of him.

it doesn't make sense in the slightest.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

also rr, if you're cop...

IF YOU ARE COP WHY ARE YOU NOT SCUMHUNTING.

I worked on scumhunting yet half the people calling me out on it have not present squat themselves and are bandwagon on me.

I've actually posted far more into my own thoughts, whatever Gheb wants to call me fluff or some other crap I've presented cases and thoughts far more than most of the people in this game, yet people we're gonna lynch me anyways so I needed to claim to save a town PR, if I was a VT or something useless I would sat down and just died right there.

@ T-Block:

This helped reinforce me having a town read on you, you listen and watch carefully.

I'm pretty good at nailing alignment, never failing.

There is your crum.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

but scum can safe-claim too ya know

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

What's done is what's done.

Anyways, what do you want to gain from this? now that you are outted, what can you provide us?

Besides, like i have said, you coulda kept the pressure off of you, you were playing so god-darn scummeh. Only thing i know have against you is that i think it could be a safe-claim, but i'm not going to risk that and kill a PR.

Damn though, i just...

Yeah, whatever, just be sure you get protected or whatever.

 

[Asdioh]

*sigh*

I need to do this.

I'm Joey Quinn - Town Cop

ahhhh nooo why would you do this to me when I said you were definitely scum?

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>claiming cop D1

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okay unvote

jesus christ tell me why you are claiming now and what you plan to gain with this claim

errgghh i was just presenting a case on RR now too >>;

because he was in no way near L-1 or anything and our opnion coulda changed after his explanation.

....Soup.... it was pretty clear that he is the most likely to be lynched this late in the Day. What the hell.

There is your crum.

I guess that works lol.


unvote


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@people that listed Rajam as town: why, exactly?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

*checks deadline*

also, like i have said, he just presented an argument against DH, why did he need to follow that up with a claim?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

but scum can safe-claim too ya know

Scum safe claiming town cop, and Joey Quinn...seriously?

I've never watched Dexter so I have no clue who he is other than he had a former partner who died, has a tough guy persona, and is put off by Dexter Morgan.

Also btw, from what I can gather my sanity isn't guaranteed from what my role PM is saying, so idk if I am a legit cop or insane, etc.

 

[T-block]

72 hours is a fine time to claim in a large game imo... this way we are less likely to scramble in the end.

@RR: Your realize that your breadcrumb was only 12 hours before your claim, right? And that it came after there were already five votes on you with a lot of pressure?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Well aware of that.

Like Asdioh said he is frickin right, only time I look town is when I'm scum, and as town I look like scum.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Waiting for more people to post. I'm not sold there isn't a counterclaim and this isn't a scum tactic to bait out the cop.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Oh wait misread, says I'm a sane cop not that is wasn't guaranteed.

 

[JTB]

Hi, I should've really declared a v/la for this weekend, but I didn't think about it

Anyways, RR claimed cop? I haven't read his wagon yet, but regardless, he should be given a chance to get some results.

 

[Choice]

i think ryu's claim was warranted. L-3 surely doesnt = L-1 but still if i had to put my money on who i thought was going to be lynched today, it would be him. Claiming now gives us more time to organize another lynch anyways, and honestly, even after his case on Dark horse, i would have predicted that no pressure would be removed.

as for whether or not the claim is credible. that's a different story. i'd urge everyone that has their vote on him to at least ask a few questions at him before you just drop your vote. yea, we don't wanna risk lynching the cop, but we also really don't want to force the real cop to CC if he's lying and if no one else follows it up, he or she be the only one that knows and would be pretty obvious if they are the only one still on his case.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Why would you not want cop to counterclaim? Considering the cop role's goal is to find scum, that's exactly what you would be doing by counterclaiming.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Choice, do you believe his claim?

 

[Choice]

Why would you not want cop to counterclaim? Considering the cop role's goal is to find scum, that's exactly what you would be doing by counterclaiming.

to keep the cop hidden? i mean you yourself said that it might just be a tactic for scum to bait the cop out, and i agree with that being a possibility.

Choice, do you believe his claim?

i'm not sure if i'm entirely convinced of it just yet. i had a null read on rr leaning scum before his wagon, then he sorta just became desperate while trying to defend himself, but no one was really hearing him out it seemed so that was understandable. his latest posts (dark horse case essentially), besides the claim, make me feel better about him. i would say that i believe it more than i don't believe it, but i still want to ask him a question myself. i just havent come up with one that is useful.

 

[Choice]

Hi, I should've really declared a v/la for this weekend, but I didn't think about it

Anyways, RR claimed cop? I haven't read his wagon yet, but regardless, he should be given a chance to get some results.

JTB, read through RR's posts before you read the wagon and put your opinion here please =0

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

to keep the cop hidden? i mean you yourself said that it might just be a tactic for scum to bait the cop out, and i agree with that being a possibility.

I said that's what Red Ruy might possibly be doing. I never said anywhere that I think it's a bad idea for the cop to counterclaim if it is a method to bait out the cop.

 

[Choice]

red ryu, in your crumb you said,

i'm pretty good at nailing alignment, never failing.

but then you later said that you were unsure about your sanity. the sanity issue addendum to me seemed more like you were just trying add credence to the claim. especially with the post afterwards, its like "oh wait, just checked my ROLE PM, im so telling the truth =)"

were you really uncertain about your sanity?
did you take that into consideration when you made your crumb?
why not crumb earlier when the wagon had begun?
why not give the crumb a little time to be noticed and claim later?

 

[Choice]

I said that's what Red Ruy might possibly be doing. I never said anywhere that I think it's a bad idea for the cop to counterclaim if it is a method to bait out the cop.

true, you didnt. i dunno, i feel like it makes sense to me that they shouldnt counterclaim. getting info out about PR's helps scum way more than town.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

read on flavor

he's a pretty main character(and other stuff), don't think it's a safeclaim for now.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

true, you didnt. i dunno, i feel like it makes sense to me that they shouldnt counterclaim. getting info out about PR's helps scum way more than town.

It's no different than getting a scum read at night.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

red ryu, in your crumb you said,



but then you later said that you were unsure about your sanity. the sanity issue addendum to me seemed more like you were just trying add credence to the claim. especially with the post afterwards, its like "oh wait, just checked my ROLE PM, im so telling the truth =)"

were you really uncertain about your sanity?
did you take that into consideration when you made your crumb?
why not crumb earlier when the wagon had begun?
why not give the crumb a little time to be noticed and claim later?

I thought at first nothing was said about my sanity, so I crumbed I was legit and never failing.

Then I reread it and noticed sanity, thought it said my sanity wasn't guaranteed, then I reread it and noticed, oh wait it says sanity is guaranteed.

I didn't think to crumb at first until later, I normally don't crumb my role tbh.

No one was honestly reading anything I was saying at that point, I could have listed a case on all my scum picks and people would just ignore then and say, "Yeah your dying today" or ignore my posts like Ryker and say, "LOL not reading you anymore you can die" No one quoted it, no one was reading anything into my posts and at that point with WL saying, nah you can day for calling out Glyph, even though anyone who knows me knows I hate inactives more than anything in mafia.

~

Only other thing I can say is that apparently I have a knack for catching badguys and I'm the best out there, and my job is to find all Criminals out there, which seems to suggest scum is a bunch of criminals from the show which I have no clue since I never have watched Dexter.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

read on flavor

he's a pretty main character(and other stuff), don't think it's a safeclaim for now.

So did I. Given what his character has done, I don't trust the cop claim.

 

[Choice]

It's no different than getting a scum read at night.

that's not true. getting a scrum read at night doesn't mean that they got to come out and say "yo i'm cop" next day. they can make a case on em without exposing themselves. ultimately its upto the cop whether or not they want to counterclaim anyways, so us debating about this seems a bit trivial to the situation.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So did I. Given what his character has done, I don't trust the cop claim.

Huh?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joey_Quinn

What exactly has he done here that makes him not trustworthy as the cop?

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I've never watched Dexter so I have no clue who he is other than he had a former partner who died, has a tough guy persona, and is put off by Dexter Morgan.

wiki says he's an outgoing person but gets really pissed off when insulted and etc.

" Affairs investigation was from the death of a former partner of his and Yuki's who had a crystal meth addiction."

Season Four says he started to get into a friendship with dexter, but then he had an affair with Debra Morgan in season 5.

early life states:
"Quinn was originally a Narcotics cop during the events of Seasons 1 and 2, working alongside fellow cop Stan Liddy. During his time in Narcotics, Quinn helped Anton Briggs out of a drug bust in exchange for making him his personal CI while paying his dues out of his own money (while lying that Anton was officially a CI with time left to get off scot-free). Quinn initially wasn't trying to be bad; he just needed Anton as a personal resource"

"During Quinn's time in Narcotics he also had a relationship with Yuki Amado (an Internal Affairs agent), whom after having a nasty breakup began to stalk Debra Morgan and urge her to spy on Quinn for her. It is possible that Quinn's history with Stan Liddy goes back further than what we're let on to believe and he may have participated in some of the "dirty work" that Liddy was accused of. However, Yuki's investigation into Quinn is fueled by a jealous streak brought on by the breakup and she only wishes to find something on him to make him suffer."

it's a very shoddy character, and doesn't really scream 'protagonist!' but we'll see.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

that's not true. getting a scrum read at night doesn't mean that they got to come out and say "yo i'm cop" next day. they can make a case on em without exposing themselves. ultimately its upto the cop whether or not they want to counterclaim anyways, so us debating about this seems a bit trivial to the situation.

That's kind of what I expected you to say.

1 town for 1 scum is a hugely town-sided as there's a lot more town than scum. Getting an almost-confirmed scum read and sitting on it while you could potentially die is stupid. This goes along with Ryker's schtick of don't die holding necessary information. If you know someone's scum, why would you ever risk going to the grave with it?

@Red Ruy: The synopsis I read makes him seem shifty and untrustworthy. Maybe yours is different. See: what Soup wrote.

 

[Xivii]

Just saying, I don't really plan on reading through the past 700 posts. Maybe sometime.

Can someone town sum up the day so far?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Well I wouldn't know any of this, I wanted to play flavorful mafia, didn't know anything about the show.

 

[Rajam]

Skimming through late events. Super-behind on my catch-up... (page 10)

I don't yet get to the part where RR get's all this pressure, so far I see him as null

@whoever asked: Keeping my vote on WL

Saw a cop claim (...). I do not cclaim.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Well I wouldn't know any of this, I wanted to play flavorful mafia, didn't know anything about the show.

Vote: Red Ryu

you have a role PM, how could you not know any of this, did you not get a background on your character?

 

[Choice]

That's kind of what I expected you to say.

1 town for 1 scum is a hugely town-sided as there's a lot more town than scum. Getting an almost-confirmed scum read and sitting on it while you could potentially die is stupid. This goes along with Ryker's schtick of don't die holding necessary information. If you know someone's scum, why would you ever risk going to the grave with it?

i'll agree with that. if you know someone is scum for sure, don't let the day end without them being lynched. if you can do so without revealing how you know, that's much better though imo.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Just saying, I don't really plan on reading through the past 700 posts. Maybe sometime.

Can someone town sum up the day so far?

Hey Ryker, wasn't this your job?

@Rajam: Why is your vote still on me? Do you know?