Dexter Mafia ~ ...?

[#HBC | J]

WL, what is your opinion on Ghebby? It seems up in the air.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Do not simply throw statements like this without backing up your explanation. If you have the right to string Gheb along for reasons for his scum picks and the things you have said, you have to walk the other side. You simply cannot make attacking statements like this without explaining why.

Yes, I see this post was made from a mobile phone so I expect an explanation once you get onto a computer.

Bolded is exactly why, I tend to be more brief on my phone since making longer posts is more difficult.

Don't worry I'll get this in a sec.

 

[CT Chia]

Vote Count 1-7

The deadline has been set for 9:00pm EST on May 12th

With 16 players alive it takes 9 to lynch!

Tandora (0) -
Glyph (0) -
JTB (0) -
Rajam (1) - T-block,
vVv Choice (0) -
WashedLaundry (1) - Rajam,
Ryker (0) -
Gordito (0) -
RocketPSIence (0) -
Red Ryu (5) - Asdioh, Soupamario, WashedLaundry, Ryker, J,
Gheb_01 (0) -
Soupamario (2) - Red Ryu, vVv Choice,
T-block (0) -
Dark Horse (0) -
Asdioh (0) -
J (1) - Gheb_01,

No Lynch (0) -

Not Voting (6) - Tandora, Glyph, Gordito, RocketPSIence, Dark Horse, JTB,

 

[CT Chia]

Someone fell quiet in Miami today... What a shame, the game is still so new yet there has already been a problem. Who would expect such a thing? All I know is such activity won't go... unpunished.

Spoiler

Glyph and Gordito have received a prod for inactivity.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

WL, what is your opinion on Ghebby? It seems up in the air.

Leaning town.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

EBWOP: My reads can change really quickly though, after thoroughly reading Asdioh's case on Red Ruy and Red Ruy's responses, I quickly changed from my "leaning town" to "did gogdamn scum" stance on Ruy

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

EBWOP: My reads can change really quickly though, after thoroughly reading Asdioh's case on Red Ruy and Red Ruy's responses, I quickly changed from my "leaning town" to "did gogdamn scum" stance on Ruy

This helped reinforce me having a town read on you, you listen and watch carefully.

I'm pretty good at nailing alignment, never failing.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Still working on a post for another mafia this one is next though so no worries.

 

[Tandora]

Ryker, I cannot vote for RR. He's leaning town to me. I had some doubts early on because of his defense of Rajam and his tunnel sighted push for Soup. However, posts like his #536 are well thought out and well voiced opinions of several players.

But mostly, this stood out to me:

@Psi: Get in here now or I'm gonna bug you on AIM to post here.

Scum could have just pushed to vote on someone who was completely inactive. Instead RR was making an extra step to get a player involved. I read this as a very town statement.

The person I feel is most likely to be scum of the active players is Dark Horse. His posts have been hypocritical in that he pushes that my posts are useless yet he has post less quality posts and has not voted himself despite his insistence that I need to.

His posts try too hard to establish me as unreliable and unproductive, a common tool for scum. And he's posted so little which is odd for someone who usually posts a lot more.

VOTE DARK HORSE

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

The person I feel is most likely to be scum of the active players is Dark Horse. His posts have been hypocritical in that he pushes that my posts are useless yet he has post less quality posts and has not voted himself despite his insistence that I need to.

oh gogdammit not this mentality again

His posts try too hard to establish me as unreliable and unproductive, a common tool for scum. And he's posted so little which is odd for someone who usually posts a lot more.

I can buy into this though.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

EBWOP:

Scum could have just pushed to vote on someone who was completely inactive. Instead RR was making an extra step to get a player involved. I read this as a very town statement.

>Red Ruy doesn't vote for inactive player
>Red Ruy voting for Soup
>Reason: "Liability"
>Liability=policy lynch
>Inactive vote=policy lynch

uh

 

[Asdioh]

But mostly, this stood out to me:


Scum could have just pushed to vote on someone who was completely inactive. Instead RR was making an extra step to get a player involved. I read this as a very town statement.

Are you kidding me?

@Glyph, start posting dude, or I'ma text you!

/suddenlyimtown

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I missed this,

@Red Ryu: Comment on the J-Gheb interaction please? You were looking for something with which to read Gheb - does this tell you anything? Could it be TvS?

J is acting more townie in this case, I think he is more legit in his points over Gheb, but after Gheb responded to me he seems less likely to be scum after giving me a full answer.

If I think this is TvS I think Gheb is the scum, however my read on him went from scum to leaning scum. Since I feel like there are others who need more scum-hunting directed at them. Like Ryker, Asdioh, Soup, and Dark Horse.

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Now as promised.

My dislike with Ryker has to do with his aggressive tones with people in this game, it seems really off. I've only seen this when he was in the Radical Fiction hydra, and Swiss himself also tends to not be like this either from what I can gather.

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Dude, have you not seen how long he's been voting me?

**** meta. What meta could possibly matter with regards to Rajam? In fact, don't answer that as IT DOESN'T MATTER! Your case is weak as hell and makes you look terrible. If Red Ruy didn't need to be lynched today, you would be going.

He keeps going with this, I wanna lynch you but nah gogo Red Ruy lynch, Why is he sticking to me so much yet adding nothing to why he is continuing to go along for this ride outside of the comments below at me.

You're a dumb***.

One liners to attack people with nothing else stated.

You've stated "Ryker is suspicious" or something like it multiple times without expanding on that at all. When asked why it's because you think I was faking confidence in my ability to read Soup, but you have no idea what that would mean. For all you know, I could have a Vig or Cop ability I would use on him. Hell, you seem to think Soup is town, IIRC, so what would me wanting him to stick around even signify?

@WL - Are you dumb? My credibility within this game is what I have to get **** done during the day. With no credibility, I can't lynch scum. However, the interesting part is not my concern over my credibility, it'll endure just fine. It's why Gheb would want to start a campaign like that in the first place.

More aggressive tones at WL this time, I get the point of being credible but with the above point to Gheb he is far less aggressive. Now here he also says, I can't, no mention of town or anyone else, just him lynching scum, interesting.

**** your 556. I don't remember it, so it's probably not important. I'll be back from reading something else in here and maybe I'll catch it on the way back to this point.

Again dodging a point with a FU kind of comment. He has also had time to go back and address it but has yet to do such despite the other posts he has made in this thread. He doesn't address this later on.

That first line was directed at me.

That's more than enough for me to be annoyed and isn't counting the initial bull**** push, the argument about whether or not I was confident, or anything after the point where you and I started talking about it just now. There was never any reasoning behind me "lying" about being confident in my ability to lynch Soup. You revealed that there wasn't any more reasoning and still haven't said why it is scummy.



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Seriously, go die.

I admit I agree with him on the Gheb point even though it does follow the more aggressive behavior I'm seeing this game.

Still the comment at me, why? What point does it serve? He doesn't list why he just says go die. Why continue with one liners like this? Nothing to state why he hates it.

Are you blind or dumb?

Why even make a comment to J like this about commenting when he gets home, even later it appears that J points out that Gheb did pull a bit of ad hom. This seems out of place and more of an attempt just to stab at someone to look like a credible attempt.

~

I noticed this all today and it really put me off since he's not putting out much info on me, yet he wants to lynch me, when he does comment on me it's only an insult even though in one case it seems we agree on something against Gheb with his reads on people. This doesn't make sense to me, why bother with the one liners and such while also ignoring some posts like T-Blocks then going after others like Gheb. Some cases just look like fake content and BS reasons to just get a post out there.

I got another next relating to this one.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

EBWOP:

>Red Ruy doesn't vote for inactive player
>Red Ruy voting for Soup
>Reason: "Liability"
>Liability=policy lynch
>Inactive vote=policy lynch

uh

They aren't the same thing.

Soup is active and a liability, so they don't correlate in this case.

@Glyph: Why did you call me scum right when you entered the game again?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Soup is a liability because of his play. Inactives are a liability because of their lack of play. Whatever difference you're pointing out is merely circumstantial, policy lynches are entirely about removing liabilities from the game, nothing more.

Besides, why vote for an inactive? Scum need a pool to hide in.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

My dislike with Ryker has to do with his aggressive tones with people in this game, it seems really off. I've only seen this when he was in the Radical Fiction hydra, and Swiss himself also tends to not be like this either from what I can gather.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYK3Fz6pXnA&feature=player_detailpage#t=15s

He keeps going with this, I wanna lynch you but nah gogo Red Ruy lynch, Why is he sticking to me so much yet adding nothing to why he is continuing to go along for this ride outside of the comments below at me.

One liners to attack people with nothing else stated.

Teehee

More aggressive tones at WL this time, I get the point of being credible but with the above point to Gheb he is far less aggressive. Now here he also says, I can't, no mention of town or anyone else, just him lynching scum, interesting.

So scummy.

Again dodging a point with a FU kind of comment. He has also had time to go back and address it but has yet to do such despite the other posts he has made in this thread. He doesn't address this later on.

**** you.

I admit I agree with him on the Gheb point even though it does follow the more aggressive behavior I'm seeing this game.

Meanies are so scummy.

Still the comment at me, why? What point does it serve? He doesn't list why he just says go die. Why continue with one liners like this? Nothing to state why he hates it.

I dunno. Don't think about what it could possibly mean or anything.

Why even make a comment to J like this about commenting when he gets home, even later it appears that J points out that Gheb did pull a bit of ad hom. This seems out of place and more of an attempt just to stab at someone to look like a credible attempt.

Why?

I noticed this all today and it really put me off since he's not putting out much info on me, yet he wants to lynch me, when he does comment on me it's only an insult even though in one case it seems we agree on something against Gheb with his reads on people. This doesn't make sense to me, why bother with the one liners and such while also ignoring some posts like T-Blocks then going after others like Gheb. Some cases just look like fake content and BS reasons to just get a post out there.

I got another next relating to this one.

Pro-tip, trying to turn a lynch on me is not a good way to get out of a lynch.

Seriously though. I stopped caring about what you think when you said I'm scummy for being aggressive.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

It's like he's never considered who the Aggressive half of Aggressive Mediation is named for.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Soup is a liability because of his play. Inactives are a liability because of their lack of play. Whatever difference you're pointing out is merely circumstantial, policy lynches are entirely about removing liabilities from the game, nothing more.

Besides, why vote for an inactive? Scum need a pool to hide in.

Hmmm...alright I'll see this way then

Unvote

Seriously though. I stopped caring about what you think when you said I'm scummy for being aggressive.

It's that with the fact your ignoring some points at you and your not explaining half of the FU posts. You say, "Please die" and then nothing else.

What can people draw from that? That you hate the comment but that's it.

 

[Asdioh]

Seriously though. I stopped caring about what you think when you said I'm scummy for being aggressive.

And here I was, trying to find a relevant picture to say pretty much that.

This is the best I could find:

or

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

well I'm not sleeping tonight after that second picture.

It's that with the fact your ignoring some points at you and your not explaining half of the FU posts. You say, "Please die" and then nothing else.

What can people draw from that? That you hate the comment but that's it.

uh

i don't see the significance of ryker being pissed off at people when he's spent the last few days pretty much being the most protown bro in the game.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

EBWOP:

Hmmm...alright I'll see this way then

Unvote

scum picks. now.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

EBWOP the sequel: and explain why.

 

[Asdioh]

scum picks. now.

Like Ryker, Asdioh, Soup, and Dark Horse?

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

It's that with the fact your ignoring some points at you and your not explaining half of the FU posts. You say, "Please die" and then nothing else.

What can people draw from that? That you hate the comment but that's it.

It makes people think. It makes them look for my reasoning and form their own opinions.

That might be my avatar at some point.

 

[Asdioh]

EBWOP the sequel: and explain why.

Oh, I can't explain the whys for him, he'll have to do that himself

goodnight!

 

[Choice]

Like Ryker, Asdioh, Soup, and Dark Horse?

you're saying this for red ryu? yea?

i can see how come red ryu is frustrated or responding the way he is with ryker, but for reals dude the whole "i'm not scummy, you're scummy" case seems pretty weak especially when you're just kinda expressing what seems to irk you about someone's play instead of things that are inherently scummy.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

It makes people think. It makes them look for my reasoning and form their own opinions.

It also makes you look cryptic, I don't like that. What does this do to help town. You call out Gheb for not explaining himself on some things then you turn around and do the same expecting the same thing from others of you.

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What Asdioh said.

I really dislike Ryker's posting from this last day and his previous answer. It doesn't make sense, why call out Gheb on this and do it himself? His answer for it doesn't add up, let town figure it out? That's not helpful, many people can get confusing reads and mislead some people down one road. Plus not everyone is gonna read those messages the same, what does he do in those cases?

Asdioh I feel is doing less scum-hunting and more piggybacking off of others. That and the claimed mason with Ryker makes me wary of him still. Why claim that right away? Wouldn't it be better to wait on this? He didn't. he outright just posted it. Added to this he seems to have only made a clear case on me at this point. Actually a bunch of his posts have been a lot more side non-mafia stuff at this point, like he asked a TTGL question, more posts to fit what seems to be peoples faces, this is different from Asdioh I remember in other games. He has done this with his "I love Sosuke, oh no he died I'm gonna make a bunch of Kirby pics to show I miss him!" he did in Upick1 so it could add up to his normal play, hard to say. It;s mostly how he seems more...fluff this time around, his case on me, that wasn't fluff but a lot of the side comments and questions don't seem to lead much outside of seeing who wants to lynch me which he has asked a couple of other players.

Soup, his play is bad really bad, I find him to be scummy based on his answers and his insipid questions to ask, "Am I town?" Then he name claims trying to cop out of the game which makes it hard to get anything pro from this. The only thing that is party keeping me from this and why I went for a liability argument was meta, every-time Soup has played, minus the time he replaced in for Chaco in Resident Evil 4 Mafia, he flipped town playing like this. I can't say I'm pleased with his play, with Ran I felt like it was earlier to nail him down since when he plays town, even if it is poor at times it's more obvious. I don't see this with Soup and his play. And find him being scum to be possible even now, however I do have that meta on him that says "This is soup town" like Dissidia, Bingo, and etc. His play tells me scum, meta tells me town, this is why I wanted a quota lynch, because I don't want to play a "figure him out" game if he keeps like like he has.

Dark Horse has contributed jack to this game. He has chased nothing from any questions he has asked. Any call outs on players were brief small comments at best. He asks for a response to his #371 then he moves away from it, when he comes back to me, he ignores my responses and pulls out a quote I made to Gheb when I was asking Gheb some questions. He says, "Wtf this is scum hunting" yet notice earlier two other people said this already. His content is bad when he has posted for the 14 posts in this game. His only decent post was his #371, otherwise he's beeing way too small in posts and content.

 

[#HBC | Ryker]

It also makes you look cryptic, I don't like that. What does this do to help town. You call out Gheb for not explaining himself on some things then you turn around and do the same expecting the same thing from others of you.

I give you more than enough.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: Glyphmoney

Get in here now, you posted in my mafia in LoD you can post here as well.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I give you more than enough.

I don't get this.

Also cool dog.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

so wait

you post a longass list on people you believe are scum and why they're scum

and you vote an inactive.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That inactive is avoiding this game, he posted in my mafia in the LoD, I want him in here so I can get a better read on him.

Also removed your image because **** is censored.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Dark Horse has contributed jack to this game. He has chased nothing from any questions he has asked. Any call outs on players were brief small comments at best. He asks for a response to his #371 then he moves away from it, when he comes back to me, he ignores my responses and pulls out a quote I made to Gheb when I was asking Gheb some questions. He says, "Wtf this is scum hunting" yet notice earlier two other people said this already. His content is bad when he has posted for the 14 posts in this game. His only decent post was his #371, otherwise he's beeing way too small in posts and content.

Why have you only used this read in this post?

You're scrambling for scum reads.

Vote: RR

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I only re-read 2 pages and i already still don't care for RR.

 

[Tandora]

I only re-read 2 pages and i already still don't care for RR.

What exactly about is him off to you, Soup?

 

[#HBC | J]

Why have you only used this read in this post?

You're scrambling for scum reads.

Vote: RR

I really really wanna say OMGUS to this post.

Tanny, can you give me your thoughts on Gheb? If it were between him and RR for a lynch who would you pick and why? If you can't vote RR for Ryker, can you vote him for me? I'll make it worth your while deary.

RR, that vote on Glyph sealed the deal for me not moving my vote from you toDay. It makes absolutely no sense for you to vote him if you are not calling him scum yet you haven't voted for Ryker or Asdioh or Dark Horse once iirc. (I think you voted for Soupa) If you were voting someone that you truly think is a liability then you would have stuck to your guns and stayed voting soupamario because of your case on him. It doesn't hold strength.

Soupa, your opininon on Dark Horse would be cool to have.

WL, I like you the more you post and you have reached back into null with not that much scumminess. Hmm....perplexing.

Also those who do not realize this, we have a lil over 72 hours to pick a lynch target and in a large game that is a small crunch time to get everyone to pile onto someone. I've been in too many games as of late that have a NL because people stop watching the clock. -.- Unless someone posts a big *** super convincing case on why someone else should go before RR, he is dieing toDay.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@ J/Tandora

getting to both of your questions in just a minute.

 

[#HBC | J]

Why even make a comment to J like this about commenting when he gets home, even later it appears that J points out that Gheb did pull a bit of ad hom. This seems out of place and more of an attempt just to stab at someone to look like a credible attempt.

I wanna interject here to say that this comment was not directed at me but it was directed at Dark Horse not being able to read a little line where I said I would respond to things when I got home and he said that I should answer questions instead of make a post like that.

Hmmm...I'm bored in AP Bio since we are done so now I have a BS class. I should re-read some things.

 

[#HBC | J]

Rajam, I see you there, yay for you.

You don't have to go into detail but tell me what you think of an RR lynch, is Tandora Town/Scum to you, and your updated thoughts on WashedLaundry. Thanks.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Hi J, bump back in tanny is town