Death Note Mafia - Game Thread - Ovah

[adumbrodeus]

Yet it states "while they hold this notebook." So it is assumed that they are only seen as pro-kira 'while holding the notebook' and to me it is implied that when they are no longer holding the notebook, that they won't be seen as pro-kira. Unless you think it should have an addition to confirm they won't? I think that would make the morbid composer a red herring, for any investigator to trip up and get a fake scan. So if a morbid composer has the notebook in possession and is scanned, it would be like a miller.

The notebook says their wincon changes as long as they hold the notebook, eg "will be treated as pro-kira aligned".

Anyway I don't think voting Red Ryu simply for his claim is good enough. *Cough @ adumbrodeus Cough*

Lol, figuring out that claims don't suit the flavor in a game where flavor is extremely important is one of the primary methods of picking out a fakeclaim. I generally don't play in games where flavor is important enough for that to be relevant, but it's basic mafia mechanics.

Rather happy that he flubbed his fakeclaim by attaching morbid composer to it actually, not confident of my ability to read RR's play atm because I'm not entirely sure where he's at mentally right now. Bingo showed me he drastically improved while I was gone.

 

[adumbrodeus]

That actually wasn't my idea, people were talking about conversion when I thought trading notebooks swapped alignments. They pointed out that this caused some logistical/balance issues, which I agree with, and upon looking at the rules of the Death Note I saw that the rules don't actually state that this is wrong. People who possess the notebook and the composer ability MUST be pro-kira, period. There is no "So long as they continue to hold this notebook".

It says while they hold the notebook, the other balance solution to this is that most people simply can't swap.

 

[Alakaslam]

Well I am certainly no whisperer

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Looks like we'll have plenty to discuss come Dusk. Guess all we can do now is wait.

 

[Gargaglione]

Props to adum and especially Mac on pushing that one through.

I would say that I look forward to rereading on this connection, but that's boring and I have no interest in doing that so close to the holidays. I agree with adum's willingness to go Djc or FE after this.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

I don't think DJ can be a Kira while Aoi is a Kira.

 

[Gargaglione]

Is there anyone else you are considering?

 

[The Real Gamer]

Don't forget about Kuz. Keep a good eye on him if Ryu flips scum.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Kuz is a good starting point; if there is a Vig with a gun, I still put him forth as the best target.

In general, examining the smaller groups is the next goal. And of course if someone is to be killed during the Night/start of the next Day, we'll probably use that as a foundation for the direction in this pursuit.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Guess what?

I got lynched.

But it gets better, you think you got scum,

I'm just rawring with rage and laughter.

You got trolled I'm actually town.

**** my lynch but I still doing my motto.

Go town.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Not very compelling. You've put forth no effort to catch who would be Kira in your group if it isn't you. Never even answered my question from before about which character within seems the most likely. That was literally your one shot to get people off of you for at least a Day.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Not very compelling. You've put forth no effort to catch who would be Kira in your group if it isn't you. Never even answered my question from before about which character within seems the most likely. That was literally your one shot to get people off of you for at least a Day.

Compelling?

Sure, not what I tried when people tunneled this day phase.

Enjoy my town flip.

I could check logs I guess but my cards are very little at this point.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Sure, not what I tried when people tunneled this day phase.

You didn't examine either of the people that outed that they were in the group that you're most likely in and instead chose to target the individual that is most likely to be town and two people for sure unrelated to you and those that died.

 

[Holder of the Heel]

What do you think @Ice and Fire ?

 

[The Real Gamer]

Sorry if I read you wrong Ryu but I can't think of a single post you contributed that made me think "this guy is really scum hunting." Too much "you guys are wrong", bandwagoning, and questioning without making your own pushes.

 

[ranmaru]

@Damdred: Where you at?
@FireEmblemnier: I have questions addressed to you. Where you at?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Sorry if I read you wrong Ryu but I can't think of a single post you contributed that made me think "this guy is really scum hunting." Too much "you guys are wrong", bandwagoning, and questioning without making your own pushes.

I did this plenty day 2.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Your D2 was a lot better but in my eyes it doesn't make up for your D1 play + your claim.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You didn't examine either of the people that outed that they were in the group that you're most likely in and instead chose to target the individual that is most likely to be town and two people for sure unrelated to you and those that died.

Why should I limit myself to one group of eight just because probability says there is at least one? It's entirely possible no one on the group is scum as much as the opposite.

I'm gonna scum hint not try and out meta the mod.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I'm ready for this flip.

Lets do this Zen.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Don't forget about Kuz. Keep a good eye on him if Ryu flips scum.

I claimed scum but you still says "if"

Interesting.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Your D2 was a lot better but in my eyes it doesn't make up for your D1 play + your claim.

My claim? So what instant lynch anyone who claims the morbid part? That's stupid and gives an excuse to scum.

D1 was finals with other things but w/e.

 

[ranmaru]

Red Ryu, TRG is town. Talk to me about Adumdreus.

 

[The Real Gamer]

I claimed scum but you still says "if"

Interesting.

Why should I take any of your claims seriously at this point?

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Why should I limit myself to one group of eight just because probability says there is at least one? It's entirely possible no one on the group is scum as much as the opposite.

I'm gonna scum hint not try and out meta the mod.

We've long since accepted the idea that Kira was within that group due to the size and we have Rajam's random death as a Power Role for evidence of this fact.

I wish Mac hadn't left right after I asked him for his thoughts..

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why should I take any of your claims seriously at this point?

Why did you like my post then and being so sure that I was scum that I was lying there?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

We've long since accepted the idea that Kira was within that group due to the size and we have Rajam's random death as a Power Role for evidence of this fact.

I wish Mac hadn't left right after I asked him for his thoughts..

You should lynch off play regardless of the group stuff.

The groups should be a byproduct of that.

 

[The Real Gamer]

Why did you like my post then and being so sure that I was scum that I was lying there?

I liked your post because I thought it was funny? Who said I thought it was true?

You're trying way too hard.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Red Ryu, TRG is town. Talk to me about Adumdreus.

He's scum.

His literal reason to vote me, and ignore me while pushing me, was that I was Kira's dad. My play did not once come up as a reason.

Also get DJ to talk idk why he was townreading.

Get Dam to talk aboUt why he voted me despot calling me town going into the night.

Ignore Macmam unless he owns up.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I liked your post because I thought it was funny? Who said I thought it was true?

You're trying way too hard.

Cause why tunnel of you weren't sure to begin with.

 

[The Real Gamer]

He's scum.

Why didn't you push him earlier then?

 

[The Real Gamer]

Cause why tunnel of you weren't sure to begin with.

Your flip reveals the most information regardless of alignment and you are too dangerous to keep alive due to your ability... Plus I legit think you're scum.

I'm not going through this again.

 

[ranmaru]

Hey Alakaslam, what is your take on all this?

 

[Holder of the Heel]

Rajam's death cannot be explained very neatly without a Kira in that suspiciously large group. Your disinterest in having that aspect examined doesn't reflect well on you; Kira would know it's just a matter of process of elimination before he's caught if we focus on those individuals. Even if you're not it, the chances of him dying the next Day are incredibly high if we follow up on your flip.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why didn't you push him earlier then?

I dropped his name a few times and questioned him. He ignored me for the most part.

Go reread it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Your flip reveals the most information regardless of alignment and you are too dangerous to keep alive due to your ability... Plus I legit think you're scum.

I'm not going through this again.

Only one way this can be worked out.

Zard Dorris.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Dittos'

I

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Rajam's death cannot be explained very neatly without a Kira in that suspiciously large group. Your disinterest in having that aspect examined doesn't reflect well on you; Kira would know it's just a matter of process of elimination before he's caught if we focus on those individuals. Even if you're not it, the chances of him dying the next Day are incredibly high if we follow up on your flip.

I donMt think he claimed PR in the group.

So if they did, it was off name alone.

 

[The Real Gamer]

You're on.

 

[ranmaru]

Red Ryu let's play league.