Dear Rumors: Suck it. Love From Sakurai

[O D I N]

The detail for these characters is superb.

And the idea of multiple taunts/victory on the stage is great! I never even considered that.

 

[Mars-]

well at least their fur look nice

the only melee character that most likly gone is pichu and Dr.Mario

Why would they get rid of Doc? He isn't a complete clone like Pichu and young link.

 

[NukeA6]

Good to see the eskimos again. It would be a waste of originality to throw them away. Now that stupid rumor and the people that still believe it can officially STFU.

I expect Game and Watch to return. Unlike Pichu, he's actually original and fun to use.

 

[NukeA6]

Why would they get rid of Doc? He isn't a complete clone like Pichu and young link.

Not a complete clone? Dr. Mario is the only clone character who's almost exactly like his counterpart. He should be booted out of Brawl.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

I'm not a fan of the Ice Climbers. Not to say I didn't want them to return, but I suck at playing with them and I suck at fighting against them. But now that they're back, I guess all is well. I'm still waiting on my main (Falco), my secondaries (Marth and Sheik), and one of my favorites (Ganondorf [Link's my other, but he's already in]).

The only fear I have concerning the return of the Ice Climbers is this:
{*ahem*}
...
"OH DUH *** NO!!! DOES THIS MEAN ICICLE MOUNTAIN, TOO!?!?!?"

 

[Mars-]

Not a complete clone? Dr. Mario is the only clone character who's almost exactly like his counterpart. He should be booted out of Brawl.

No, think about it, pichu and young link aren't as big, so they have to tune down their weight. Thats the only difference.

Doc's pills bounce differently, his cape has different range(since mario doesn't have a cape anymore that won't be a problem), and his physics are different.

 

[O D I N]

No, think about it, pichu and young link aren't as big, so they have to tune down their weight. Thats the only difference.

Doc's pills bounce differently, his cape has different range(since mario doesn't have a cape anymore that won't be a problem), and his physics are different.

There hasn't been anything to deconfirm his cape yet.

We just know the down+B (the tornado) has changed to the F.L.U.D.D.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Watch the second trailer, you'll see Mario's Cape in one of the first scenes.

And in the "You must recover!" update (ugh... ), you can clearly see Mario doing his uB recovery.

And I'm sure Mario's shooting a Fireball somewhere in the Dojo. I think it's in the second trailer as well.

 

[MetaKnight'sSword]

I'm not a fan of the Ice Climbers. Not to say I didn't want them to return, but I suck at playing with them and I suck at fighting against them. But now that they're back, I guess all is well. I'm still waiting on my main (Falco), my secondaries (Marth and Sheik), and one of my favorites (Ganondorf [Link's my other, but he's already in]).

The only fear I have concerning the return of the Ice Climbers is this:
{*ahem*}
...
"OH DUH *** NO!!! DOES THIS MEAN ICICLE MOUNTAIN, TOO!?!?!?"

Well....I think I know what the next Ice Climber stage is....but I could be wrong....

 

[Fawriel]

No, think about it, pichu and young link aren't as big, so they have to tune down their weight. Thats the only difference.

Doc's pills bounce differently, his cape has different range(since mario doesn't have a cape anymore that won't be a problem), and his physics are different.

...if anything, Pichu is not a clone. Many of his moves work and look different from Pikachu's.
Young Link plays completely differently from Link. Com. Plete. Ly.
...and Doc and Mario are practically the same person.

For someone with so many posts, you are horribly misinformed.

 

[O D I N]

Watch the second trailer, you'll see Mario's Cape in one of the first scenes.

And in the "You must recover!" update (ugh... ), you can clearly see Mario doing his uB recovery.

And I'm sure Mario's a Fireball somewhere in the Dojo. I think it's in the second trailer as well.

Confirmed. It's a far away shot, but it's during the "sunset" on battlefield. He uses his cape on Link.

 

[iMichael]

Yes there has to be multiple taunts now...hear me out....

Wario!

1. 15 second trailer he wiggles his butt

2. in the 2nd trailer he throws his hands in the air multiple times

3. in the 2nd trailer he he crosses his arms around his chest before being slashed to death by Metaknight

4. in the 2nd trailer he scratches his butt on (Mario Circuit)

MULTIPLE TAUNTS FTW!!!!

Edit: 1st to 2nd trailer

 

[O D I N]

Yes there has to be multiple taunts now...hear me out....

Wario!

1. 15 second trailer he wiggles his butt

2. in the 1st trailer he throws his hands in the air multiple times

3. in the 1st trailer he he crosses his arms around his chest before being slashed to by Metaknight

4. in the 1st trailer he scratches his butt on (Mario Circuit)

MULTIPLE TAUNTS FTW!!!!

You mean second trailer, yes?

Cause the first trailer was all FMV, and Wario showed up at the end to fart. >_>

But it's certainly possible: Multiple taunts.

Though the winning pose done on the stage is now a possibility too, given the fact that the IC's weren't holding their hammers. :shrug:

EDIT: Confirmed; He is doing all of those animations, and it's too many to be an idle animation. I'd say multiple taunts likely hood just shot through the roof.

Also Mario's fireball at the end of the trailer.

 

[navillus]

have t admit i didn't think they were getting in either. Some great smashers have mained IC's and i'm happy to see them back.

 

[Phred]

I would have assumed the throwing of hands in the air was an attack.

 

[iMichael]

Yeah I meant the second one....I just went by how the dojo had it...

 

[MetaKnight'sSword]

You mean second trailer, yes?

Cause the first trailer was all FMV, and Wario showed up at the end to fart. >_>

But it's certainly possible: Multiple taunts.

Though the winning pose done on the stage is now a possibility too, given the fact that the IC's weren't holding their hammers. :shrug:

maybe they'll change everytime u do taunt

 

[blayde_axel]

Or maybe... the control pad'll have four taunts now! It sucked only using "up."

Here's to Meta Knight's mask falling off for a taunt.

 

[MetaKnight'sSword]

Or maybe... the control pad'll have four taunts now! It sucked only using "up."

Here's to Meta Knight's mask falling off for a taunt.

that.....and IDK what else XDDDD

 

[DarkGades]

...if anything, Pichu is not a clone. Many of his moves work and look different from Pikachu's.
Young Link plays completely differently from Link. Com. Plete. Ly.
...and Doc and Mario are practically the same person.

For someone with so many posts, you are horribly misinformed.

IMO, if you think that "Doc and Mario are practically the same person", you're the one that's "horribly misinformed", my dude.

 

[blayde_axel]

We need more interactive taunts like Luigi's... maybe he'll slash like ten times really fast or something. lol.

But, anyway, yay to Ice Climbers. But does this mean that we aren't getting another duo?

None I could think of, at least.

 

[X-x-Dyce-x-X]

Yes there has to be multiple taunts now...hear me out....

Wario!

1. 15 second trailer he wiggles his butt

Definitely his taunt.

2. in the 1st trailer he throws his hands in the air multiple times

I'm thinking that's his Utilt.

3. in the 1st trailer he he crosses his arms around his chest before being slashed to death by Metaknight

Looks like one of the animations in his dormant/stationary loop.

4. in the 1st trailer he scratches his butt on (Mario Circuit)

Once again, looks like one of the animations in his dormant/stationary loop.

MULTIPLE TAUNTS FTW!!!!

That's what I think about that, and that's what I've thought for a long time.

EDIT:
...I know I just opened up a Pandora's Box of an argument...

 

[MetaKnight'sSword]

IMO, if you think that "Doc and Mario are practically the same person", you're the one that's "horribly misinformed", my dude.

well he is a little bit right....I mean Mario did have more than one job in a few of his games.....XDDD

 

[Drake3]

Anyway, I can now hear my friends complain that there's two of them again in Brawl. So fun. :D

Interesting and world-shaking.

Really nice surprise seeing the Ice Climbers return. The fur on their parkas is also extremely well done.

 

[DarkGades]

well he is a little bit right....I mean Mario did have more than one job in a few of his games.....XDDD

They may be the same person character-wise, but in terms of fighting style in melee, well that's another story... (and that's what matters the most in smash bros, isn't it?)

 

[oxyborb]

I wonder how they'll be included in the Subspace Emissary. This is going to get fun. I can't wait to play the Ice Climbers level in it.

 

[ChRed2AKrisp]

listen for all the idiots talking about which clones are more clonish..

THEY'RE ALL ****ING CLONES. GET OVER IT. THey all have different but similar movesets, in that they have similar moves that are alered which in effect changes how they are played. They are all unique. A link player can't play young link as well. A mario player can't really switch to doc and expect to do as well. a pikachu player....well why the **** would you ever switch to pichu unless you're t0mmy or chu? These switches may not be as bad as switching between two completely different characters, but they still have different games. Trust me, I live in MD/VA(tons of good competition) and know many people who play clones/originals at high levels of play, and most of them can't really switch to their respective character.

 

[SAMaine]

Either Flatzone will return and/or Mr. Game & Watch will return... I've been keeping up with the numbering system, which appears to be in order of being programmed in the series... It starts with the Original, then Melee, then Brawl... Here is it so far.

Smash Bros. = 1
Donkey Kong = 2
Starfox = 3
Kirby = 4
F-Zero = 5
Metroid = 6
Earthbound = 7
Pokemon = 8
Zelda = 9
Mario = 10
Yoshi = 11
Fire Emblem = 12
??? = 13
Ice Climber = 14
Animal Crossing = 15
Wario = 16
??? = 17
Kid Icarus = 18

Hmm, there is only one franchise that would be between Fire Emblem and Ice Climber... Game & Watch will return.

Oh, and now I think all the clones will return except maybe Pichu and Roy. We know both Link and Mario's moves and we can gleam that they have changed a bit. Mario sports the FLUDD as a Down+B, and Link's got redesigns and a modification of the Side+B move, so that it makes a minitornado now. So what would this tell us about clones based on them?

Luigi needs a new Down+B as well, and will likely get it with the Poultergust 3000 being so available. (Instead, of sending opponents away like the FLUDD, the Poultergust would suck opponents into Luigi's range) Luigi also needs a new Final Smash.

But Dr. Mario will ALSO need a new Down+B & Final Smash as well, which means Dr. Mario has the potential for having two moves unique to him and the modification that his Megavitamins have to Mario's Fireball.

Young Link if he appears in Brawl would obviously be based on Wind Waker... He'd keep his Fire Arrows, but also would have the Boomerang (Rather than the Gale Boomerang that makes the minitornade) and the Hookshot (Instead of the Clawshot), as well as having Fire Arrows, Cartoony Bombs, and the Spin Attack... He also could have an all-new Final Smash as well.

Dr. Mario & Young Link end up being declonified purely because Mario and Link have different effects and different moves now. I haven't seen all of Fox's and Pikachu's moves or any hint of Marth or Captain Falcon to judge on the cloneliness of Falco, Pichu, Roy, and Ganondorf, but I do have it from Mario & Link.

 

[Conker1]

I called it, I posted they would be the next veteran confirmed after Peach was put on the site.

Anyone who doubted their return...well...

 

[Pizza Robo]

Hooray! Ice Climbers are back!

 

[Fanewgie]

I knew they would return! So many silly non-believers, tsk tsk...

What makes me so happy is I accurately called this update a few weeks ago. And as of now I'm calling that our next veteran will be Captain Falcon. (they'll wait on Ness to further extend the Ness/Lucas suspense)

I'm also happy with their footstool addition. It might help a little of what was wrong with their recovery. Hopefully a vastly improved Nana AI will help with the rest.

 

[NukeA6]

No, think about it, pichu and young link aren't as big, so they have to tune down their weight. Thats the only difference.

Doc's pills bounce differently, his cape has different range(since mario doesn't have a cape anymore that won't be a problem), and his physics are different.

Young Link moves faster shoots fire arrows, his b moves combo, and his a attacks differ a bit.

Pichu damages himself with every electric attack, has a different Smash up move, has a longer charge for the Skull Bash.

Dr. Mario differences include what you said and they're barely noticeable.

You fail.

Yes there has to be multiple taunts now...hear me out....

Wario!

1. 15 second trailer he wiggles his butt

2. in the 1st trailer he throws his hands in the air multiple times

3. in the 1st trailer he he crosses his arms around his chest before being slashed to death by Metaknight

4. in the 1st trailer he scratches his butt on (Mario Circuit)

MULTIPLE TAUNTS FTW!!!!

1. That's, no doubt, a taunt.

2. That looks more like an Up A attack. BTW, this and what you said for 3 and 4 appear in the second trailer.

3. Possibly a taunt but it could be part of his standing animation

4. Looks like his crouching animation

 

[K.C. Cloud]

Hope they can't desynch this time...

 

[Fawriel]

Haha. Reading the posts of some people here, you'd think Sheik came back.

I hope the Icies will be able to desync even better!

 

[chlor0form]

Go Ice Climbers! They look great, just like DK.

(Awaiting the return of the anticipated infinite grab.)

 

[2007]

I'm glad that that stupid rumor has been finally disproved. w00t.

 

[Dylan_Tnga]

Yayyyy! This means desynching and pro IC players are making a comeback for sure. Heck maybe Ill learn em this time around and try my hand at winning some brawl money with them.

No complaints here save a tiny one, the mittens look ugly. But aside from that, nicely done.

 

[PyrasTerran]

It doesn't mean that desynching is making a combat.

Don't even know if Wavedashing, L-Cancel and anything else will return.

 

[pikachu300692]

I'm soo glad Ice Climbers are back! I liked them in Melee!!

 

[GoldenS1104]

Rofl, I never thought that ICs and G&W weren't returning. The only real characters that I think won't be coming back is Young link and pichu, but you never know, Sakurai might have just been teasing us saying that some characters wouldn't be coming back.

Hope ftw...