Dear Md/Va

[SOVAman]

This thread is directed at Md/Va If you are an out of stater *coughINUIcough* don't post here thanks.

Okay now I just want to get a regional opinion on the mk ban. I am very curious to see how many Md/Va's do and do not support the ban. EVERY ONE IN MD/VA please take the time to post whether or not you would like to see him banned.

Yes as in I want him banned

or

No as in I don't want him banned.



List so far for the YES ban:
lil b
Bonk
Hova
p~s
coney
ChivalRuse
JJ
Waffle
MattyP
BionicSonic

List for NO ban:
BMX
matador
ee
chu
norra
meep
22
Emperor Time
Rei
leafplayer



I really want to see everyones opinion INCLUDING TOs.

 

[BleachigoZX]

No I don't want him, banned.

 

[B0NK]

Yes, I do believe metaknight is a ban-worthy character. For the same reasons as stated in the pro-ban arguments and his ability to limit options. I believe metaknight is the best character at limiting options to the point where he is ban worthy.

I also believe this is a ban which every region must agree, but more so that our region agrees to before banning metaknight. But this is a tricky situation because things such as stages get banned and specific techniques quite often in specific regions before other regions follow the same bans. Even now there are stages md/va bans that other regions don't such as norfair, pictochat, and jungle japes because our region believes that these stages are ban worthy. This is the reason why I believe the decision lies more within the regions than the smash backroom, because regardless of their deciscions regions will act on there own.

I also do believe TOs should go with the majority opinion in there region and not the majority opinion of other regions. I don't know everything about the situation in texas but as an example, if xyro believed that the majority of his region supported the ban, then it is reasonable that he would ban metaknight. If the region's majority opinion did not support the ban and xyro acted on his own, then a think it was unreasonable for him to ban metaknight.

So my opinion on whether or not TOs should consider banning metaknight will be determined by this poll of our region.

 

[hova]

yes

obviously

 

[BleachigoZX]

LMAO I'm Jersey!!!
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=99590

 

[SOVAman]

Secondary poll

Does Hova's vote count for 50 votes??????


xD jk

at: BleachigoZX: I looked at your location and thought you were a random Md/Va scrub sorry. LOL

 

[BleachigoZX]

at: BleachigoZX: I looked at your location and thought you were a random Md/Va scrub sorry. LOL

I know, I planned that.

Spoiler

You best be sorry

 

[SOVAman]

I know, I planned that.

Spoiler

You best be sorry

lol I was joking cuz you jokin with me

I see you post in jersey threads all the time. Thought you moved or something lulz. Ino you are not a scrub

 

[BleachigoZX]

I know you know that.

I AM "The Legendary Bleachigo"

 

[JCaesar]

No. Infinites and tripping and other uncompetitive bull**** shouldn't be banned either, obviously.




must ... resist urge ... to make ... Brawl+ comment ... urrrRRRRRR *explodes*

 

[SOVAman]

No. Infinites and tripping and other uncompetitive bull**** shouldn't be banned either, obviously.




must ... resist urge ... to make ... Brawl+ comment ... urrrRRRRRR *explodes*

hmm

you dont play brawl so why did you vote???????

I will put it anyways

 

[JCaesar]

EVERY ONE IN MD/VA please take the time to post whether or not you would like to see him banned.

You never said Brawl players only.

I hate MK with a passion, therefore I hope he remains in Brawl forever.

 

[SOVAman]

You never said Brawl players only.

Ino I just asked why

ROFL

 

[BMX]

No, I don't want him banned.

Everyone who put up the Pro Ban argument put up one hell of an argument, but it is those who truly suck and cannot handle competition of the highest calibur. a.k.a Metaknight.

MK may have abnormal abilities that ultimately make him the superior character, but he's far from unbeatable.

 

[SOVAman]

No, I don't want him banned.

Everyone who put up the Pro Ban argument put up one hell of an argument, but it is those who truly suck and cannot handle competition of the highest calibur. a.k.a Metaknight.

MK may have abnormal abilities that ultimately make him the superior character, but he's far from unbeatable.

WOW no one says he is unbeatable <_<

he is just has an advantage over EVERY CHARACTER and has abnormal recovery abilities, amazingly fast moves and a lot of other stuff.

 

[BMX]

LiL B, that is basically the argument. -_-

 

[Levitibus]

No.

Banning him when he's beatable? '08 Join dates at their finest.

No T.O. in this region or any other should ban MK, I don't expect any to be stupid/ignorant enough to do so.

 

[BleachigoZX]

Falco has lasers. (Which force approach, bait, refresh moves)
Falco has a spike that gets combo'd after a Chain Grab.
Falco has a frame 2 super jab. (Refresh, beats out every spot dodge)
Falco has mad tech skill!
Falco has gotten ***** by Marth, who will become more popular after MK is banned.

Don't ban MK!!!

 

[BMX]

^^ This sexy severus makes sense.

Please stay on the topic. Honestly, the majority of those who voted yes are people who have had experiences with losing to MK.

 

[Matador]

I vote no.

Mainly because banning MK won't remove all of the stupid **** that occurs in this game, it'll just replace it with the OTHER stupid **** that this game seems to stockpile. Just keep him. He can be beaten, so it's w/e.

 

[Pyronic_Star]

i want him banned... if anyone would like a logical justification as to why let me know and i will further this response.

jceasers response shouldn't be counted... he's biased to wanting our game to fail... it's especially evident by his response stating "No. Infinites and tripping and other UNCOMPETITIVE bull**** shouldn't be banned either, obviously."
and the comment about him hating mk with passion which is why he wants him to stay

 

[BMX]

i want him banned... if anyone would like a logical justification as to why let me know and i will further this response.

jceasers response shouldn't be counted... he's biased to wanting our game to fail... it's especially evident by his response stating "No. Infinites and tripping and other UNCOMPETITIVE bull**** shouldn't be banned either, obviously."
and the comment about him hating mk with passion which is why he wants him to stay

PS, enlighten me. I would like to hear your opinion. No flaming or spams, anyone, please.

PS, you've always wanted to have MK banned. o_0

 

[JCaesar]

Please stay on the topic. Honestly, the majority of those who voted yes are people who have had experiences with losing to MK.

Who hasn't?

jceasers response shouldn't be counted... he's biased to wanting our game to fail... it's especially evident by his response stating "No. Infinites and tripping and other UNCOMPETITIVE bull**** shouldn't be banned either, obviously."
and the comment about him hating mk with passion which is why he wants him to stay

What gave it away?

 

[B0NK]

I believe Akuma is beatable in HD Remix. I believe Akuma should be banned (and he is). I believe the same thing when applied to metaknight. Beatable does not mean metaknight shouldn't be banned.

 

[BMX]

Who hasn't?



What gave it away?

I still count Jcaez. lol

BONK: When it comes down to the facts, that's what it really is. People do not want to deal with MK because they see him as a bothersome obstacle.

Akuma is beatable in your eyes, but in reality, others see Akuma as a wall and wanted him banned too. People like me see MK through different eyes from yours. What is your opinion?

 

[SOVAman]

@bmx: that really is not the arguement

@ee: I joined in 08 because that is when I joined the tourney scene

I just want to see what other think we don't need to start flames and drama

 

[BMX]

@bmx: that really is not the arguement

@ee: I joined in 08 because that is when I joined the tourney scene

I just want to see what other think we dint need to start flames and drama

Lil B: Think about it. Why is it you want him banned?

 

[SOVAman]

BMX think about it there is more to the pro ban arguement <_<

btw I have beaten mks how is he unbeatable. Obviously that is not my arguement

 

[BMX]

["color"=wheat]BMX think about it there is more to the pro ban arguement <_<

btw I have beaten mks how is he unbeatable. Obviously that is not my arguement[/color]

You clearly have not answered my question. This leaves me to believe you have no reason, which leaves me thinking, what a hypocrite.

 

[SOVAman]

You clearly have not answered my question. This leaves me to believe you have no reason, which leaves me thinking, what a hypocrite.

BMX I typing on a phone. So I will tell you my reasons tommorow

you may have to be a little patient to find out my answer you are so curious about

 

[JCaesar]

People do not want to deal with MK because they see him as a bothersome obstacle.

If you really think that's the pro-ban argument, I suggest you lay off the bud.

And don't think that I'm biased toward the pro-ban side. I quit Brawl so I have no dog in this race. I was pro-ban before I quit, but I'm sure as hell glad that MK wasn't banned or I might have never tried Brawl+ (which I was very skeptical about originally) and that would've been horrible.

I would honestly like to see MK (and infinites) remain unbanned, for no other reason than to encourage people to try Brawl+ when they finally get fed up. But if people enjoy that stuff, by all means, stick with it, more power to ya.

But remember, it IS just a game. If you don't enjoy it, why are you playing it? Money? Unless you are m2k, there are much better ways to make money on the weekends.

 

[Allied]

Sorry to interrupt MD/VA's love fest

but

LOL @ liL B's Sig
<33XD

Too good

 

[ChuDat]

I don't think Metaknight should be banned because

1. Not every tournament is going to have Metaknight banned thus we lose any experience we could have had against Metaknight.
2. He isn't winning tournaments in MD/VA with the regular competition here present.
3. He's beatable.
4. Aside from planking metaknights, metaknights are usually aggressive so the usual camping occurring in tournament matches is negated with metaknight in the game making tournaments run faster. Maybe people are complaining because they can't camp against Metaknights?

This is just my opinion on it anyway and I didn't put much time/thought into it. I could be wrong on some points.

 

[hova]

i like Chu; we don't know each other too well, but he's a cool guy



i would just like everyone to imagine a national tourney scene free of MKs... that **** would be amazing, it just clearly would be much better and Brawl would be a lot more fun

i mean clearly

i might be able to come up with an argument, but seriously just imagine not having MK around, it would be so great... kinda like a magical wonderland of fun where everyone is happy

 

[jjvirus]

Yes. Ban him. I'm a scrub who can't win because MK exists. **** me hard.

 

[TheTantalus]

what is this

i'll let you all decide this one, i dont' care one way or the other

 

[meepxzero]

If hes banned then more power to other regions... I really think if he DOES get banned we should be one of the few regions to keep him legal like NJ. Why you ask? None of the mks do any of the things that cause him to be questionable for ban. Forte, Omni, Korn the most notable mks here dont plank and run the timer with mk and cause controversy.

So why take that away from them? I agree with chu with most mks dont choose to play the gayest they can and run the timer because they try to have fun at the game while of course trying to win money.

Look at m2k hes aggressive more than half the time. Of course hes gonna run the timer against me... but i respect him for that because THATS HOW YOU BEAT IC. I wasnt pissed he beat me at herb 2 i just said good games and pounded him. I have mad respect for anyone who can avoid getting infinited by me for 3 games that takes true skill.

Statistically hes unbeatable but fox was statistically unbeatable too if he was played to perfection in melee.

 

[Noraa]

He shouldnt be banned.

 

[TwentyTwo]

While MK does make up a good portion of competitive play right now something like 1/4th of entrants or something like that main or second MK. We don't see many cases of a less skilled player beating another highly skilled player because they use MK. By these standards he shouldn't be banned. However it's clear that he's the best character in this game, and people do place too much weight in saying he's beatable, that's not the whole problem though.

I say no ban.

 

[Pyronic_Star]

PS, enlighten me. I would like to hear your opinion. No flaming or spams, anyone, please.

PS, you've always wanted to have MK banned. o_0

will do

I personally feel that MK is too good of a character and bad for the health of the game. Several characters have left brawl due to MK alone, spak to any brawl + player and the first response you hear when they justify brawl + as a better game is "MK isn't as broken (then they list the other pros)." Imagine how much more healthy the scene could be had we kept some of these plays tat have left us.

Added to this.. MK is greater then the entire cast by a large margin, one so large that there is a direct correlation between your results and how you deal with MK. Ask yourself how much time you have pt into the game... how much time did you put into learning to beat/use mk, when you put this mk time in and when you noticed that you started placing better. Anyone that actually plans on ever winning a toruny (excluding chu possibly and he has even touched mk before) has picked up mk, even if they have not used them in tourny they have played him inside and out. People bring up this bs about "look at placings, mk doesn't win them all," my response to them is that everyone test there **** on mk, mk has threads devoted solely on how to beat him... even worse..how to stop specific moves, and despite all this he still dominates the scene. This is just pathetic that dam near EVERY player devotes there time to defeating 1/35th of the cast and that 1/35th of that cast still continues to dominate. This is clear evidence that MK istoo good of a character. I play MK now, and beat 90% mk users and no matter how much easier the match gets i wil always want him banned. If i main him and get 1st because of him i ill still want him banned.

We all agree the MK is beatable... but d you know why? Because we put in 100 times more time then mk users into the [insert main] vs mk match up, that and mot mk users don't have a brain. majority of top players of a non-mk users can beat mk mains with mk.


i an continue... i'm lazy XD these arguments should do fo now, let me know f you would like more :D

ps: if for nothing else he should be banned to keep brawl alive, even if it is because people don't want to deal with him. Over time i'm sure mk has lost us more then what the lack of him would lose us.

but... i want ic's infinite's banned before mk XD my argument for that... omg >.< i'll take mk all day if we can get rid of those