Dark Samus Approaching: Extreme caution recommended.

[CardiganBoy]

Any Dark Samus fans have strong opinions on what her Forward, Up, and Back Airs should be? Neutral and Down Air are both finalized but f-u-b aerials are placeholders. Here is what they are currently.

Neutral Air-

Down Air (0-80%)- (80-999%)-

Forward Air-

Up Air-

Back Air-

I know it sounds weird, but something similar to Mii Gunner's Up Air would look amazing with Phazon shots, of course.
Considering Dark Samus AT has that multishot attack in Smash 4, Mii Gunner's Up Air would fit pretty great, imo.
(in 1:52)

For Fair maybe she points the cannon, and does a single shot, a fast attack, the shot is weak and deals extra damage if the opponent is just "in" the cannon as it shots. i don't know what to suggest for Bair other than some downwards kick.

 

[Weiss]

I always thank you guys for your efforts. Would offer more if some here accepted it lol.

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

I know it sounds weird, but something similar to Mii Gunner's Up Air would look amazing with Phazon shots, of course.
Considering Dark Samus AT has that multishot attack in Smash 4, Mii Gunner's Up Air would fit pretty great, imo.
(in 1:52)

For Fair maybe she points the cannon, and does a single shot, a fast attack, the shot is weak and deals extra damage if the opponent is just "in" the cannon as it shots. i don't know what to suggest for Bair other than some downwards kick.

Definitely considered that move but I can't think of any graphic effects to replicate the Mii Gunner's projectiles besides what's already being used for Dark Samus' Side B (Phazon Scattershot)... and I don't want to use that on an aerial.

Right now, her Uair is DS "tossing" up a ball of light/phazon energy. It's something similar to what she does in the Corruption fight when she and her Echo clones start floating high up in the air and start shooting energy spheres at poor Samus.

I'm thinking something similar for the F-air.

B-air is Dark Samus swinging behind her with the arm cannon. Trying to make the animation look more menacing and forceful.

 

[CardiganBoy]

Definitely considered that move but I can't think of any graphic effects to replicate the Mii Gunner's projectiles besides what's already being used for Dark Samus' Side B (Phazon Scattershot)... and I don't want to use that on an aerial.

Right now, her Uair is DS "tossing" up a ball of light/phazon energy. It's something similar to what she does in the Corruption fight when she and her Echo clones start floating high up in the air and start shooting energy spheres at poor Samus.

I'm thinking something similar for the F-air.

B-air is Dark Samus swinging behind her with the arm cannon. Trying to make the animation look more menacing and forceful.

Hope you come to a conclusion about the uair, i think it really suits the more aggressive nature of Dark Samus and just looks so cool, maybe you could edit the Scattershot effect for the uair (making the particle brighter, or a bit bigger, just giving examples).
Good to know about fair, and bair sounds great too.

 

[Taytertot]

not sure if this has been pointed out yet but i notice that in your original description of moveset you say that the charged nB move (beam) would do heavy shield damage and i feel that a move that travels across the entire stage (at a quick speed i imagine) that does heavy shield damage might be a bit overpowered as a concept but im not sure exactly how you imagined the move working so maybe its not as bad as i think itd be.

otherwise this is cool im glad youre making dark samus what youve got is awesome.

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

not sure if this has been pointed out yet but i notice that in your original description of moveset you say that the charged nB move (beam) would do heavy shield damage and i feel that a move that travels across the entire stage (at a quick speed i imagine) that does heavy shield damage might be a bit overpowered as a concept but im not sure exactly how you imagined the move working so maybe its not as bad as i think itd be.

otherwise this is cool im glad youre making dark samus what youve got is awesome.

You're 100% right, that would be very overpowered. It's very telegraphed as of now and there will be a lot of ending lag to try to try to balance it.

In other news, where are my pleasant porting people at?

 

[drogoth232]

You're 100% right, that would be very overpowered. It's very telegraphed as of now and there will be a lot of ending lag to try to try to balance it.

In other news, where are my pleasant porting people at?

Murdering myself with finals <:v

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

Murdering myself with finals <:v

Ouchies, good luck.

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

Any thoughts/suggestions?

Wait Stance:

 

[Xenozoa425]

I would have her stand on her feet during her wait. Looks kinda awkward if she's just floating there.

 

[Weiss]

Body is fine. Have her head more focused forward. She looks like she's looking down shy like. We need her focused at her foe, chin up and such.

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

I would have her stand on her feet during her wait. Looks kinda awkward if she's just floating there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g02j8SD-0hw

Body is fine. Have her head more focused forward. She looks like she's looking down shy like. We need her focused at her foe, chin up and such.

My thoughts was have the head move like that to look more crazy/maniacal. But I'll take it into consideration, a very easy fix.

BTW progress is slow, everyone is busy with life and projects so no estimated release as of now.

 

[Weiss]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g02j8SD-0hw



My thoughts was have the head move like that to look more crazy/maniacal. But I'll take it into consideration, a very easy fix.

BTW progress is slow, everyone is busy with life and projects so no estimated release as of now.

Oh I knew what you were after, you got it. Her sporadic movements are what makes her that way. Head bobbing could be taken down a small bit, and then a focus, and boom. Perfect.
Mind you these are small changes. You are doing good and I'm just offering a opinion. :-)

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

Oh I knew what you were after, you got it. Her sporadic movements are what makes her that way. Head bobbing could be taken down a small bit, and then a focus, and boom. Perfect.
Mind you these are small changes. You are doing good and I'm just offering a opinion. :-)

No it's great to get another set of eyes on an animation to make it better. Appreciate your input!

 

[Weiss]

Thanks. But really its your opinion that matters.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Any thoughts/suggestions?

Wait Stance:

Looks kinda weird. I think it would be better to use that animation you can view after scanning it, then just lift its legs off the ground and put them in...er...floating pose. Or at least lift its head up.

 

[Xenozoa425]

Like I said, it looks weird if she's just standing there. If you're gonna use it, it should be the slowest walking animation. The Dark Samus AT in Smash 4 doesn't really float when she stands, but then again the AT doesn't do much else to begin with.

Mewtwo does the same thing pretty much, he floats when he moves, but for his idle and attacks he stands on his feet.

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

Like I said, it looks weird if she's just standing there. If you're gonna use it, it should be the slowest walking animation. The Dark Samus AT in Smash 4 doesn't really float when she stands, but then again the AT doesn't do much else to begin with.

Mewtwo does the same thing pretty much, he floats when he moves, but for his idle and attacks he stands on his feet.

You mean floating? And the DS actually does a couple of things that I tried to replicate. She has jump, up smash, down smash, special, taunt, wait stance, and run animations.

And I've read a lot of Dark Samus movesets made up by people throughout the years and many suggested she would be floating for the wait stance. Look at this guys recommendation for example:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/...zZMFfKQ3WG9HA/edit?pli=1&overridemobile=true#

The thing is, I started this almost a year ago last summer. And every move transitions into this wait animation. I don't see myself going thru every animation again to change it up.

But she would look cool standing in this pose, 1:00 mark

I actually have an animation like this ready to go. Maybe I'll switch up a couple of animation transitions and see if it's worth it.

 

[Weiss]

Good luck man.
Yeah that animation may work. It's easier no?

 

[Yeller1999]

I like how work is being done on this project still can't wait for it to be done. Keep up the good work. Also if I remember correctly it was said this would go over Lucario? Why Lucario he is one of my mains.

 

[HypnotizeOverdrive]

Also if I remember correctly it was said this would go over Lucario? Why Lucario he is one of my mains.

Then don't download DS.

I wish people would stop complaining about modders creating certain characters to replace other characters on the roster. It is up to no one but the modder, and the best way to avoid having your "feelings hurt" is to not download the character.

 

[Yeller1999]

Then don't download DS.

I wish people would stop complaining about modders creating certain characters to replace other characters on the roster. It is up to no one but the modder, and the best way to avoid having your "feelings hurt" is to not download the character.

Yes I know this. But I was just wondering was just asking. I wasn't complaining cause I don't mind to much replacing Lucario but I would prefer not to. And one last question was this a .rel port over Lucario? Just asking I don't mean to annoy anyone or upset anyone.

 

[Xenozoa425]

It's over Lucario because you can use his Aura articles and change it around a little bit to get phazon articles.

Right?

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

Yes I know this. But I was just wondering was just asking. I wasn't complaining cause I don't mind to much replacing Lucario but I would prefer not to. And one last question was this a .rel port over Lucario? Just asking I don't mean to annoy anyone or upset anyone.

Don't worry about upsetting anyone, all you did was ask a question. If anything, I feel bad about how long this is taking to come out but I don't want to put a mediocre hack out there when there is the potential for this to be excellent.

Porting hasn't even started yet because no one has given me any advice so it's not a definite that Dark Samus is going over Lucario.

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

It's over Lucario because you can use his Aura articles and change it around a little bit to get phazon articles.

Right?

That's about it. What exactly Phazon articles are... nobody knows.

Good luck man.
Yeah that animation may work. It's easier no?

Not exactly easier since many animation were made based on the original Wait I posted. But I'm just doing what I think is right from this point, would take way too much time to redo everything.

 

[The_ias_HO]

Hey, I absolutely love what you are doing, great work! Only one question, who does it replace? Marth, Lucario or who? Can it be ZSS since that would keep the rooster balance?

 

[Xenozoa425]

I can balance the rooster for ya.

 

[The_ias_HO]

I can balance the rooster for ya.

*roster haha, sorry autocorrect

 

[Shiruzato]

...Is this dead?

Bumping for the sake of PLEASE keep it alive.

 

[LIQUID12A]

To my understanding it's just not high priority at the moment for DSL; he's just waiting for additional input.

 

[Dark-Samus-Lives]

 

[LIQUID12A]

So it's dead.

 

[WEK-Sector Pirate]

No!!!! please! I wanted this just as much as I wanted Ridley! If this is what you want, then fine,but just know that alot of people were waiting for this.

 

[Mewphelis]

http://imgur.com/s8h5kL5

(Kinda off-topic) Well now your username doesn't make sense anymore!

 

[Weiss]

Ah if dead shame but understandable.

 

[BaganSmashBros]

Oh well. Sad to...er...hear...see...don't know which one i should use. Understandable either way.

 

[PrinceGal3n]

Is there anyone you could pass this project one to? If I had more modding skills and time I would give it a shot, but unfortunately that not in the cards.

 

[BronzeGreekGod]

This is a shame. I hate seeing great work come to an end. I hope you dont delete all your work. Ive heard people doing that and it blows my mind. It would be nice to have someone pick up where you left off! I hope you consider sharing what you have done so far.

 

[Shiruzato]

This is a shame. I hate seeing great work come to an end. I hope you dont delete all your work. Ive heard people doing that and it blows my mind. It would be nice to have someone pick up where you left off! I hope you consider sharing what you have done so far.

I second this. Please, PLEASE share you what you have so far! This was going to amazingly!

 

[JOE!]

This got me so hype, seriously pass this onto somebody before I learn PSA and do it myself