D.Gray-Man Mafia-Town Wins!

[#HBC | Laundry]

The results are in: I think some certain things bother me about aa but i don't think it bothers me as much as you do, AA's first post was indeed sheepish but his latter post shows some serious scumhunting and had backbone, i feel all your posts are just are just insignificant and they don't help, sure, you'll point a finger or two, but act on it? no, **** that noise, let's just keep pointing fingers.

vote: Gordito

 

[Asdioh]

Asdioh, what do you think of GLG? Am I correct in saying you read Gord as null?

Unsure about GLG right now, nothing sticks out to me except his insistence that WL is scum (and me by connection I think?)
My Gord read is leaning on the townier side, really.

I'm liking Asdioh more. Might have to reread, but there are def. people that should die before em. Still mad hating on ******, but asianaussie is really looking off.

Unvote

Vote: AA

Lack of votes on him is sad. we should get off of Asdioh and get on em.

I s'pose I'll read more into AA too when I get back from work. I don't remember disliking him though. Give me two reasons why you think he's scum?

multiposting sure makes me look town, right asdioh?

Dang, Asdioh with that bias! Just because you explain something doesn't mean I'll believe it or find it a satisfactory answer. I mean we could only hope that everytime someone says "I'm not scum, honest!" that they'd be telling the truth. I also think you have a few questions for me.

hmmm... how about:
1. why do you think I'm scum?
2. people have called me out as not being proactive etc. but I feel like you are more guilty of this than myself. Would you agree?

is this sarcastic? because http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12920484&postcount=338

 

[Asdioh]

unvote
Vote: Gova

Feel the pressure of L-6!

 

[Inglorious Retards]

V/LA for today

huge graduation party at my house

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Alright, it's time.

unvote vote: AA
unvote vote: Soup
unvote vote: AA

I'm fine with either of them going. AA has parroted for most of the phase and his flip off IR is grody as ****. Despite having IR as one of his top two scum reads, he won't make the flip back onto him and he hasn't voted Asdioh at the moment or said he would like to vote Asdioh. He doesn't have another scum read to work from, so he's content on sitting there and doing nothing. I hate his extremely sheepish play.

Soup's looked a lot better but I don't like his play at the beginning of the day and I hate his play now. He started incredibly fluffy with no real action to his posts. Now he's acting out the chainsaw defense on Gorf to protect AA and I don't like that. And his town and scum reads are terrible. Asidoh as town? Gorf as scum? Trash.

And they sit here and keep trying to subtly push me as scum with all these little strings attached so that if those scenarios don't hit, they have outs. I don't see the logic for them to be saying it at all. If they think I have a chance of being scum, quote parts of my play that make them think as much and call me on it. Except they haven't. And I dislike it.

IR and Asidoh aren't off my radar but AA and Soup need to go. I don't care which of the two, they're kinda identical and definitely on a scum team together if either flip scum.

@Red Ruy: If you agree, vote AA.
@EBR: Which of these two is scummier?

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

HEY.

So Ryker is at some smash tourney and I havn't really read the thread in detail but by goodness I will get that **** done sooner or later!

@WL: AA is town, trust me on that. IDK about Soup. He looked towny in the beginning of the game but if his play has degenerated since then I'll have to give it a looksee.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I'll try to answer, but first let me ask this. Do you ever vote anyone early-game in the hopes of getting a read on them?

This is such a ****ty out you're trying to create for yourself.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

@EBR: I don't like either because I can't separate them in my head. They seem linked.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

@Soup: Give me a short rundown of why Asdioh is town and why Gord is scum. I want to hear it straight from your mouth.

@WL: What you think about July?

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

@EBR: I don't like either because I can't separate them in my head. They seem linked.

I'll keep an eye out for it.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Now he's acting out the chainsaw defense on Gorf to protect AA and I don't like that. And his town and scum reads are terrible. Asidoh as town? Gorf as scum? Trash.

Whoa buddy, don't pull a chain-saw defense crap on me, i've had gord as a scum-pick for awhile now, him voting aa doesn't make a difference.

actually, i'll be you for a minute:

"OMG HE'S DEFENDING GORD OH NO CHAINSAW CHAINSAW CHAINSAW"

look, buddy, bro, just because i happen to like a player and disagree with another player's opnion on him, vote, whatever, doesn't make it chainsaw, i can defend against what i consider the wrong direction, why don't you just quivel up again and sheep some more.

 

[Gova]

@Asdioh, it's most definitely because of the WL incident and no, most of your posts I recall seem to be defending your actions which is fine but definitely more reactive than proactive.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

July has done things? I mean, she had the initial push on Asdioh but I can't recall her doing a lot other than that. Her posts aren't really sticking in my mind and that's bad. She had a couple of weird FoSes but outside of that...yeh.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@EBR
Asdioh is town because of the things i quoted, and if you want detail, if feel his play reminds me of concerned asdioh, yknow, that asdioh in bingo, or almost every asdioh, i know most of this time he has just been defending himself but he seems to be trying to get out reads and doing things, gord on the other hand (as stated) just wants to point the finger and do nothing, however his recent vote on aa is grody because he is trying to make one little detail the hardest thing against a player, when if you go look at AA in FULL, he doesn't look that bad, i know he does some things that are really off, and to be honest i haven't seen AA town, but i just feel that way, sue me.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Whoa buddy, don't pull a chain-saw defense crap on me, i've had gord as a scum-pick for awhile now, him voting aa doesn't make a difference.

actually, i'll be you for a minute:

"OMG HE'S DEFENDING GORD OH NO CHAINSAW CHAINSAW CHAINSAW"

look, buddy, bro, just because i happen to like a player and disagree with another player's opnion on him, vote, whatever, doesn't make it chainsaw, i can defend against what i consider the wrong direction, why don't you just quivel up again and sheep some more.

sit down son and let me give you a music lesson

You had Gorf as scum but you didn't vote him until he attacked your scumbuddy AA. I call that a chainsaw and it looks very much like a chainsaw. If you wanted to sell me on you believing Gorf and July were scum, you would've told me why and included, I dunno, a vote? Why did it take Gorf posting again and a push on AA for you to vote him?

Also, the cute attempt at saying I've been sheeping is hilarious, keep at it, Soup.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

@Asdioh, it's most definitely because of the WL incident and no, most of your posts I recall seem to be defending your actions which is fine but definitely more reactive than proactive.

I like you a little bit more. Maybe your dark teal text just makes me inherently ignore your posts but this is better than your usual stuff.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I didn't vote gorf at the time because i was looking at other things, if you notice i chopped up a new updated list, did some ****, left for the night, and then evaluated what i went over.

i wake up, see gorf, vote his ***, done deal, you can throw my name in the mud all you want but i what i really did solidifies over your suspicion.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

@WL: Analyse 302 and 316 when you can.

Already said all I want to say about Asidoh's 316. 302 is still pretty reactionary even if it makes fair points.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Gord (1) -Soup
ThePaprikaKiller (0)
Red Ryu (0)
July (0)
Asdioh (4) -Gova, July, IR,, RR
soup (0) -
laundry (1)-GLG
Gova (1) Asdioh
Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!! (Ryker/Kuz) (0)
Inglorious ******* (JTB/Gheb)(1)- EBR
GLG (0)
AA(2)- Gord, WL

Not Voting: TPK

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

and they sit here and keep trying to subtly push me as scum with all these little strings attached so that if those scenarios don't hit, they have outs. I don't see the logic for them to be saying it at all. If they think i have a chance of being scum, quote parts of my play that make them think as much and call me on it. Except they haven't. And i dislike it.

oh no, someone is attacking me, whatever will i do
i'll play the "you can't prove it so nyanyanyan"
and then, i'll side with nobody and call soup for chainsaw, that way it doesn't look like i'm subtly agreeing with the gorf side even though it is blatantly obvious.

AA(2)- Gord, WL

**** *****.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I didn't vote gorf at the time because i was looking at other things, if you notice i chopped up a new updated list, did some ****, left for the night, and then evaluated what i went over.

i wake up, see gorf, vote his ***, done deal, you can throw my name in the mud all you want but i what i really did solidifies over your suspicion.

But there's no way you'd sit here and justify someone as scum without any legit reasons, right? Throw me a bone when you make a scum read.

And why is your only defense against the chainsaw point? I said more about you than that.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

oh no, someone is attacking me, whatever will i do
i'll play the "you can't prove it so nyanyanyan"
and then, i'll side with nobody and call soup for chainsaw, that way it doesn't look like i'm subtly agreeing with the gorf side even though it is blatantly obvious.



**** *****.

Sounds like you have pent up aggression/suspicions of me! Where did these come from when you had a town read on me???

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Soup's looked a lot better but I don't like his play at the beginning of the day and I hate his play now. He started incredibly fluffy with no real action to his posts. Now he's acting out the chainsaw defense on Gorf to protect AA and I don't like that. And his town and scum reads are terrible. Asidoh as town? Gorf as scum? Trash.

"i hate soup, do something!"
"good job soup, you're doing something <3"
*many posts later*
"i hate soup, do something!" (for your relevance i have been doing something.)
"i hate soup, he's not doing what i want him to!"

have a weaker case harder, WL.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

You're probably right regarding the policy lynch. Also, JTB was very bent on getting that meta, and EBR wasn't misconstruing anything, just exaggerating. I still think that IR's early game, scummy or not, wasn't really great play.

This part's grody.

Regarding me being ok with your lynch...it's more that I don't care for what you've done so far than me actively wanting you gone - you haven't given enough content for that. You're pretty stanceless against scumspects, unless you wanna take a scum stance on me, and you seem bent on staying that way - I recall you defending people as town quite a few times but not once indicating anyone as scum. Having only town-tells D1?

This part's not.

Am I correct in assuming you actually want Asdioh gone? If so, we're cool.

But this one is.

Ask me why!

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

"i hate soup, do something!"
"good job soup, you're doing something <3"
*many posts later*
"i hate soup, do something!" (for your relevance i have been doing something.)
"i hate soup, he's not doing what i want him to!"

have a weaker case harder, WL.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

>implying me arguing with you has gaven me new insight on you.
>implying you are 'miscontruting' what i am saying by saying "OH YOU HAD A TOWN READ ON ME Y UR READ CHANGE HOW CAN THAT EVER HAPPEN OH NO."

this argument is stupid, you're reaching for something that isn't there.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Really? I think JTB's argument that knowing whether Bardull has been scum before or not can give us some useful insight on how he would likely react when put under pressure was pretty good. Likewise it's safe to assume that he'd played differently if it wasn't his 5th game but his 1st and that he'd be more likely to make a newbie mistake. Now we at least know that he can't use it as an excuse and also that he won't crack to pressure in a newbiesque way where it's not sure if it's scummy or - well - newbiesqe.

He didn't ask for his background mafia experience, he asked Bardull to literally summarize the games he has played in, in the BRoom. I already asked about his previous mafia experience in my first post of the Day and we established he wouldn't be getting any special slack for it either.

And I still maintain that EBR completely hyperboled the point. Not only would there have been no issue with Bardull simply answering and getting the issue over with but also does he himself actually hint at the whole thing being a null tell [covering that in my next post]. If he claims that JTB has done nothing else than to question the meta then he's a liar first of all [because of the legitimacy of his points vs Asdioh] and even if it was the case then it'd be his own fault for keeping JTB under pressure for it. JTB only extensively tried to cover his issue because EBR [and the other people who followed the wagon] made such a big deal out of it.

This is so scummy it hurts.

There wouldn't have been a blatant problem with it, but we would have gained absolutely nothing from his answer and we could have been given information we could not verify AND its an excuse for your slot to generate faux content. Already stated this before, don't sidestep the point.

Are you actually trying to make a case for me being a liar for saying JTB was trying to generate faux content? Plus, I never said JTB has only had that meta discussion with Bardull. I clearly state in my 189 that even when he tried to switch gears and make attacks on others, they reaching pieces of garbage and certainly weren't genuine. You claim that JTB has had a plethora of good points against Asdioh, well I just read back through the thread searching for them and this is all I could find.

WL, keep up the good work.

Gord, why do I need a wagon over anyone else?

Asdioh u so scum y, trying to appeal to WL by switching your vote?

unvote
Vote: Asdioh

Dork, please try to get the vote counts correct, JTB is not voting for WL.

I am blown away by the legitimacy of that accusation.

 

[Asdioh]

WL and Soup, are you guys getting anywhere with this? I'm pretty sure Soup is town. I can't say that as confidently about AA or Gord, though.

afk work

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

>implying me arguing with you has gaven me new insight on you.
>implying you are 'miscontruting' what i am saying by saying "OH YOU HAD A TOWN READ ON ME Y UR READ CHANGE HOW CAN THAT EVER HAPPEN OH NO."

this argument is stupid, you're reaching for something that isn't there.

Your newfound aggression suggests otherwise. I'm not saying your read changed. I'm saying that you have a town read on me but you keep saying all these things that insinuate you have a scum read on me and have done so for awhile now. That's the meat of my argument, stop attacking the potatoes.

unvote vote: Soupa

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

>get in argument with someone
>STOP ATTACKING ME WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT TOWN READ OH MY GOD YOU'RE SCUM IF YOU THINK I'M TOWN BUT YOU KEEP ATTACKING ME.

that's like playground ****, WL, you pushed me first, i push you back.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

>get in argument with someone
>STOP ATTACKING ME WHAT HAPPENED TO THAT TOWN READ OH MY GOD YOU'RE SCUM IF YOU THINK I'M TOWN BUT YOU KEEP ATTACKING ME.

that's like playground ****, WL, you pushed me first, i push you back.

Again:

I'll just keep posting it until you actually attack what I'm saying.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I am attacking what you are saying, that's the whole point of the attack.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

I definitely agree with the suspicions against Asdioh. JTB's point that Asdioh tried to appeal WL by switching wagons is 100% legit. I don't even see any reasoning other than "good stuff, WL" or something among those lines. If asking for a players' meta is a scumtell now why are you accepting such buddying? Asdioh seems really clumsy with his constant non-content, fishing for townie points and reactive play and right now I think that lynching him will be the best play toDay.

@bolded: That's hardly a valid point and WIFOM at best. In the exact same post JTB says "keep up the good work WL" which is appealing to Asdioh in the exact same fashion.

You keep trying to pound the pound in that I am saying him asking for meta is a scum tell. I've never said anything of the sort. I've said that the answer to that question would have 0% benefit for town and give your slot a chance to generate content, which is why I told bardull not to answer it. It also has nothing to do with buddying so the connection you're trying to draw to incriminate Asdioh is underhanded.

Its nice that you can make such basless incriminating sentences, but you'll have to back you **** up before I take your Asdioh case seriously. It's easy to summarily attack someone for CC scumtells but I want to see you actually do the dirty work and show us where Asdioh has done those things.

 

[Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!!]

Still want IR dead the most. Going to start catching up now.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I am attacking what you are saying, that's the whole point of the attack.

Except you're not because you're repeatedly missing the point of what I'm saying or trying to set it up as something else (i.e., "playground ****"). I don't give a rat's *** about you attacking me. I just give a rat's *** about you sitting here and trying to subtly push me as scum while saying you have a town read on me. It's not one or the other, neither part of that sentence is independent of the other. It's scummy play and you should damn well know why I think it's scummy play.

 

[Gova]

Kuz, if it was going to generate no content, wouldn't it have been better just to let it be answered and see what they were going to do after that? Like to see if they were going to continue not having content to really affirm a scum read. The Asdioh points you bring up are pretty legit I think.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

subtly push me as scum while saying you have a town read on me. It's not one or the other, neither part of that sentence is independent of the other. It's scummy play and you should damn well know why I think it's scummy play.

are you ****ing stupid?
haven't i just said that this argument has affected my read?
why do you ****ing care if i have you as town or scum? would it make you feel better if this attack is making me lean more scum with you?

are you gonna say i'm chainsawing? defending? some inane accusation bull****?

 

[asianaussie]

>_>

Responding when I get back from errands.

@EBR: Why am I town?
@WL: I'll ask you why. Why were those parts grody (or whatever you cool kids say instead of scummy)

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

are you ****ing stupid?
haven't i just said that this argument has affected my read?
why do you ****ing care if i have you as town or scum? would it make you feel better if this attack is making me lean more scum with you?

are you gonna say i'm chainsawing? defending? some inane accusation bull****?

OMGUS sounds about right. What about this attack makes you think I'm scummy?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

And if Soup comes up with some bull**** that's not a scumtell, I'm pushing his lynch all day.