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[asianaussie]

ninja'd by that last post because i didn't press post when i thought i did

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

It's not "outdated reasoning", I'm trying to figure out what was going through your head when you said you were okay with a Gova or Asdioh lynch. You were okay with his lynch because he wasn't doing anything in your opinion, not because he scummy. That's what I got from you when you explained why you would favor a Gova lynch, and that's stupid when you have actual scum picks and there are scummy people who can be lynched over someone you are merely apathetic towards. But then you say that after Gova responded you were no longer particularly suspicious of him, but you didn't seem suspicious of him in the first place, and this is where it all breaks down in my head and I can't understand you. Either you were suspicious of him and thus were okay with his lynch, then he said he really was in support of an Asdioh lynch and because of that you find him less suspicious. Or you were apathetic the entire time and you okay with his lynch until he said he really wanted the Asdioh lynch and now you consider him to be doing a little more than he was and are thus less indifferent to him. The first one doesn't line up with what you said in your #328 where you it looked more like a policy lynch/issue with him not doing enough than the belief that he's actually scummy. The second one is simply you didn't find him scummy but would be okay with his lynch for not doing enough, but that's bad when you HAVE scumpicks that you can act on and deserve to be lynched over someone you are just meh about.

I mean, July, look at his flipping between Asidoh and IR at the drop of a hat. It's the exact same mentality at work.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Yeah...no. I don't want to lynch him, I never actively pushed his lynch. Been passive about it since forever. Right now I want to lynch IR anyway, not Asdioh. Past that, I wanted him to show he had a reason to maintain his vote on Asdioh and wasn't just keeping his vote there because the cool kids were doing it, or something like that.

I mean, really, what happened to this?

 

[asianaussie]

That was the decision of a coin flip to begin with.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Oh except for WL's vote on Soup. Bro you gotta get off of him. An AA lynch is much more useful for us. Especially since this town doesn't seem to latch on to Soup scum. But they can see the AA's scum better. C'mon bro.

Let's lynch AA.

Only if you tell me how AA is more beneficial to lynch than Soup.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

That was the decision of a coin flip to begin with.

 

[Asdioh]

Only if you tell me how AA is more beneficial to lynch than Soup.

Can you tell me why Soup is more beneficial to lynch than AA? :3
If anything, your posts have convinced me more toward lynching AA than Soup. I'm not even sure why he's voting me, or what he hopes to accomplish with respect to either an Asdioh or IR wagon, when he's been wishy-washy about both, and doesn't seem to be trying to convince people to get people back on them. I personally wouldn't want to follow someone who says "I voted person x because of a coin flip." Take some hard stances, AA, and back them up.

My vote is on IR. I haven't tripped on anything, IR went from scum > mildly scummy with that 'terribad post', where he now sits with Asdioh. You'll most likely find stuff like that because you're keen to twist anything I say into scummy stuff.

This means you think both IR and I are "mildly scummy" right?

unvote
Vote: asianaussie

I finally understand the reasoning for wanting to lynch him.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

From what I can tell, your case consists of the perception that I give a rat's *** solely about your read. I don't. I also don't give a rat's *** if you think I'm scummy.

What I do give a rat's *** about, and this is why I'm calling you scum, is the fact that there's a disconnection between your thoughts (reads) and your actions (statements). You say I'm town. You act I'm scum. That kind of disconnect is basically a soft way of dragging my name through the mud and trying to create FUD about me. You're subtly insinuating that I have a chance to be scum (and you're right, I do, but there's no reason to bring it up at all unless you have legitimate reasons to believe I'm scum) at every available opportunity and attaching all these strings to different scenarios. Your actions and your reads are contradicting each other. And that's scummy.

Hence why I sat there and posted strawman images. You're attacking this argument that I care about your read on me. I couldn't care less about how you view me. I care about your actions in regards to how you view me.

I said you were town.
my read changed.

FUD? what the ****? all i did was have an argument with you, and i dared you to keep pursuing.

every available oppurtunity? the **** son? we have one argument and you want to think i'm out on your ***? i'm not even voting you, i'm not EVEN PURSUING YOU, i'm voting gord, i said i'm not gonna vote your sorry *** for nothing, as gord is still my top pick, mind you.

my reads are my actions, just because i'm not happy happy buddy buddy with my town reads doesn't mean ****, and that same goes with any other reads, it doesn't matter what my read on you is, the fact is i didn't like what you were doing, and that will affect my previous read, regardless, if i were to just meet you, and you did something like shoot someone in the face, how would i react? i'd call you a monster or something, but, if i knew you, or perhaps knew you were a good person, i might question your antics further because i believe you are a good person, and this action of yours will decide if i stay curt to this thought.

the point is, i see what AA is doing, i see the scumminess, i see it, but i just don't see the full picture, that's the same thing with you, i'm not sure if i want to FLIP YOU AS SCUM YET BECAUSE I STILL HAVE A TOWN READ ON YOU.

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

~June 27, 2011. 2:08 AM

Will get to real shiz in the morning, but wanted to address this first:

Only if you tell me how AA is more beneficial to lynch than Soup.

Using chainsaw defense as a scum tell is much more effective when used on the defender than the defended. If we get an AA scum flip, it even further secures a Soup scum read. But if we get a Soup scum flip, it's not necessarily as connecting to AA scum. I'm definitely fine with either lynch, and if you still feel the desire to lean toward the Soup lynch, than all power to ya mang. But I would hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighly recommend headin on down and chillin on my wagon.

 

[asianaussie]

Too frustrated with my own play and people pulling **** out of nowhere to post coherently.

Look real hard at Asdioh when I flip town, because that jump was pretty calculated. Up till now he's had a lot of posts wondering why people don't like me, even when it's not necessary.

Everyone else on my wagon is pretty towny. If Soup, GLG or IR jump on my wagon they are probably scum. The only ones who can legitimately jump on my wagon now are WL and possibly RR.

 

[Asdioh]

Up till now he's had a lot of posts wondering why people don't like me, even when it's not necessary.

This is because you were under a lot of fire and I didn't quite understand it until now. You went from null to scum thanks to your constant cautiousness.

Everyone else on my wagon is pretty towny. If Soup, GLG or IR jump on my wagon they are probably scum. The only ones who can legitimately jump on my wagon now are WL and possibly RR.

There are 4 on your wagon, with 7 to lynch... now you're pre-emptively calling people scum if they vote for you

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

actually asdioh, his logic makes sense.

and don't give up aa, i know you're newtown for sure but you gotta defend yourself or make your attackers wrong.

guys, look up fmp, aa was more composed in this situation when he claimed VT, hell, he was more composed in full.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

ugh but that scumminess...why do i always defend people likw this, ****.

 

[asianaussie]

because im acting completely different to the scumplay you've experienced, probably

i acknowledge my own poor play and can't do anything to rectify it

guess i really was just a wuss, i should take harder stances next time

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

you're not dead yet...freaking AtE too man, ****.

cmon aa you make it really hard to defend.

 

[asianaussie]

sorry bro

ill start constructing an asdioh case tomorrow, right now im a bit out of it

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That's a bit ironic. RR saying that me parroting is a scumtell when you parrot a parrot post. Parrots.

Read up a little, a fair few points I brought to the table on IR were new. EBR acknowledged a point I made that he apparently missed. WL himself reiterated my own point about buddying at one stage. What exactly did I parrot? The bit about IR focusing too much on meta? Oh snap, apparently pointing out the biggest problem with his play is scummy when it's already been acknowledged.

If you parroting call is about me seconding a few peoples' requests for info, then go the hell away. If I want info then I'm going to request it, and if someone else brings up a good request I'm going to second it.

I think you're just sore about me seconding the FoS on you.

Drilling the point in, I have yet to see you put out anything that wasn't already said or regurgitated from another person.

Some points you raised have merit, like the one you mentioned, however this in no way changes that your main focus with reasons, you stated

Scumpick is IR. Leaning scum is Asdioh. Nothing dead-set.

IR's early play was pretty bad. Pursuit of Bardull meta was silly and ultimately led nowhere. I also don't like how ghebhead is (consciously or not) covering for the bad play by pushing it all onto JTB ('I don't get the case on JTB', 'JTB was getting a bit concerned', etc). Someone mentioned he was 'deflecting'? Somebody else said he was 'defending'. Neither is particularly good imo. Granted, his recent play is much better than his early stuff and I think somebody said JTB sometimes acts scummy early on, but I'm still not convinced.

Asdioh has done nothing but defend his bad vibe read at the beginning. Lack of proactivity. Oh, and he poked Gova a couple times.

I also want Gova to start talking.

Which has been addressed already by others. The only thing I find you to be more forceful of your own accord is Gova, which still looks weak at best.

I don't care about the FoS btw.

Now, the people on my wagon.




[COLLAPSE="Gova"]RVS vote.




Here he starts doing something that resembles something. He asks where my read on WL comes from, and says he doesn't see it. Wants to know when EBR will have a Soup read. Current thoughts on Gova: null.













SO much null stuff, just about supposedly getting reads on Soup/EBR.
Then he does the same callout others do for me for my read on WL.




Current stances I can glean from Gova: wants to get a read on EBR/Soup by.. doing something, dislikes my read on WL, doesn't seem to necessarily agree with the wagon on IR I think, and calls Soup out on something he finds suspicious. So... maybe thinks WL is town or null, maybe thinks IR is town or null, is paying attention to Soup, one way or another.

As I've said, I feel like Gova is the most stanceless active player. He's asking very few questions and giving very few reads. He seems like he wants me lynched "just because" at this point. A wagon happened to line up with his RVS vote, and the only reason he's given for it is my early read on WL and then vote switch, which I've had to explain so many times now.
[/COLLAPSE]



[COLLAPSE="July"]first few posts are opening shenanigans, nothing to talk about there
calling me out on fluffy questions early on, which is null for both parties at this point.
Rest of the post, she's asking questions and giving stances. Makes a vote, even if it's on me. Looks pretty good so far.

more doing stuff.



Meh. This sparked pointless talk about how the FoS was bad or whatever. I kind of agree with her view here, that it was weird for RR to edit a post (which is doing his job, yeah yeah) but not say anything.


She has a few more posts, but they're fairly long, and I don't have anything specific to say about them. I'll just say that she is asking questions and giving stances in pretty much every post, and it looks pretty good.
[/COLLAPSE]



[COLLAPSE="Gord"]



He's definitely giving stances, though at this point it doesn't feel like anything new.


[/COLLAPSE]

bleh, feeling burned out at this point. Gonna save IR for last because he has a lot more posts than the others on my wagon.


[COLLAPSE="Red Ruy"]The first few quotes/responses in this post (which I omitted) were meh. Gives some townie points, cool. Calling me out for the same thing everyone is, woohoo. Already kinda defensive over a FoS, woo.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=12906928#post12906928 is long. He's obviously reading the thread, and answers questions and asks his own. His vote on me was predictable I guess, after pointing me out as suspicious before. Still pretty defensive over a couple mere FoSes.

Has some suspicion on AA for "blending" with his FoS. Sticking with his suspicions on me for my read on WL, really wants me to elaborate on it.
Legitimate concern for why Soup called him town so quickly.

Cool cool.
[/COLLAPSE]




Ok now my reads on the four I've looked through. Before I go through all of IR's posts, I'll say that he's been looking better lately. After he stopped looking for meta and talking of little else, it looks like he's actually doing stuff.

Gova: he is my biggest scumpick right now. I'll have to look through the rest of the roster tomorrow, but Gova particularly stood out to me by not standing out at all. It feels like he's playing extremely safe, trying to get answers out of people and looking like he's contributing when he's really not doing much at all.

July: null leaning town. The town part is explained where I say she's asking good questions and isn't afraid to give her reads. The null part comes from where she fooled me by being my strongest townread in Pizza, so that part comes from meta.

IR: null until I read him again. Looks better than he did earlier.

Gord: looks like he's doing stuff. I don't want to lynch him, at the very least.

Red Ruy: seems alright.



EBR's silence the past couple days has been deafening.
TPK's nonexistence, unfortunately, was predictable
I'll give moar reads if you want it.

I feel better about Asdioh after this a bit, it's not the same as his earlier play.

Surprised I missed this. Back at that point...probably Asdioh. Asdioh has since done stuff though. Right now, uh...

Spoiler

my obnoxious 14yo neighbour with awful taste in music

IR. I literally flipped a coin between IR and Asdioh. 5c coin came in handy.

Asdioh, what do you think of GLG? Am I correct in saying you read Gord as null?

Flipped a coin?

Make up your own mind on this don't flip a coin.

Well gord, your above is a good example, what's your reason for aa being grody? i think he's fine, hell, he's one of my more stronger town-reads.

...are you serious?

@ninja

that's fine, i haven't been paying much attention to detail of aa.

and that's what i think you are scummy for, where you ever got that is beyond me, i never implicated my reasons yet, in fact, i'm trying to see the aa case right now because i have been down this road before and it caused a mislynch, so i can be wrong.

You've been ignoring it? A person who is building up votes?

The results are in: I think some certain things bother me about aa but i don't think it bothers me as much as you do, AA's first post was indeed sheepish but his latter post shows some serious scumhunting and had backbone, i feel all your posts are just are just insignificant and they don't help, sure, you'll point a finger or two, but act on it? no, **** that noise, let's just keep pointing fingers.

vote: Gordito

Washed posted it alreayd but seriously what the hell is this? Where did this come from, what are your reasons to push this?

You got answering to do later.

Alright, it's time.

unvote vote: AA
unvote vote: Soup
unvote vote: AA

I'm fine with either of them going. AA has parroted for most of the phase and his flip off IR is grody as ****. Despite having IR as one of his top two scum reads, he won't make the flip back onto him and he hasn't voted Asdioh at the moment or said he would like to vote Asdioh. He doesn't have another scum read to work from, so he's content on sitting there and doing nothing. I hate his extremely sheepish play.

Soup's looked a lot better but I don't like his play at the beginning of the day and I hate his play now. He started incredibly fluffy with no real action to his posts. Now he's acting out the chainsaw defense on Gorf to protect AA and I don't like that. And his town and scum reads are terrible. Asidoh as town? Gorf as scum? Trash.

And they sit here and keep trying to subtly push me as scum with all these little strings attached so that if those scenarios don't hit, they have outs. I don't see the logic for them to be saying it at all. If they think I have a chance of being scum, quote parts of my play that make them think as much and call me on it. Except they haven't. And I dislike it.

IR and Asidoh aren't off my radar but AA and Soup need to go. I don't care which of the two, they're kinda identical and definitely on a scum team together if either flip scum.

@Red Ruy: If you agree, vote AA.
@EBR: Which of these two is scummier?

I love this Washed, first through.

*checks vote count*

I think he is at L-2 so I want to hold off for the moment on placing a vote.

HEY.

So Ryker is at some smash tourney and I havn't really read the thread in detail but by goodness I will get that **** done sooner or later!

@WL: AA is town, trust me on that. IDK about Soup. He looked towny in the beginning of the game but if his play has degenerated since then I'll have to give it a looksee.

This is not directed at me however can you elaborate on this? Why should he trust that he is town?

Whoa buddy, don't pull a chain-saw defense crap on me, i've had gord as a scum-pick for awhile now, him voting aa doesn't make a difference.

actually, i'll be you for a minute:

"OMG HE'S DEFENDING GORD OH NO CHAINSAW CHAINSAW CHAINSAW"

look, buddy, bro, just because i happen to like a player and disagree with another player's opnion on him, vote, whatever, doesn't make it chainsaw, i can defend against what i consider the wrong direction, why don't you just quivel up again and sheep some more.

No you pulled a vote on someone for thinking AA is scum, which is in no way unreasonable.

He didn't ask for his background mafia experience, he asked Bardull to literally summarize the games he has played in, in the BRoom. I already asked about his previous mafia experience in my first post of the Day and we established he wouldn't be getting any special slack for it either.



This is so scummy it hurts.

There wouldn't have been a blatant problem with it, but we would have gained absolutely nothing from his answer and we could have been given information we could not verify AND its an excuse for your slot to generate faux content. Already stated this before, don't sidestep the point.

Are you actually trying to make a case for me being a liar for saying JTB was trying to generate faux content? Plus, I never said JTB has only had that meta discussion with Bardull. I clearly state in my 189 that even when he tried to switch gears and make attacks on others, they reaching pieces of garbage and certainly weren't genuine. You claim that JTB has had a plethora of good points against Asdioh, well I just read back through the thread searching for them and this is all I could find.



I am blown away by the legitimacy of that accusation.

More or less this summarizes the IR wagon by just looking at that post, I like it. Based on this do you feel he should be the #1 person to go today?

WL and Soup, are you guys getting anywhere with this? I'm pretty sure Soup is town. I can't say that as confidently about AA or Gord, though.

afk work

Why is he town? I'm moving him into my scum area after his recent posts.

Still want IR dead the most. Going to start catching up now.

Ok what do you think of AA and Soup?

Kuz, if it was going to generate no content, wouldn't it have been better just to let it be answered and see what they were going to do after that? Like to see if they were going to continue not having content to really affirm a scum read. The Asdioh points you bring up are pretty legit I think.

Interesting. I can see good thinks from you.

>haven't voted you
>voting gord

LOL.

i believe i have been quite obvious as to what i consider wrong with your play here, i'm not gonna drop my latter case just to vote your sorry ***.

You do not have to vote someone to imply they are scummy.

~

I think that is what I need to cover thus far, I'll work on a less post by post for my next one.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

"How tedious"

Unvote
Vote: asianaussie

Miscounted, this is L-2 then if I counted right.

AA, Soup or Asdioh can die today.

Soup I do not care if someone is new, I must get a read on them guarding their in game play unless I am sure it's a complete new player tell, I do not feel this is the case.

Someone also Vig TPK and GLG please, or get them to post something. I hate inactives. A lot.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

No you pulled a vote on someone for thinking AA is scum, which is in no way unreasonable.

no i didn't, i had gord as a scum-pick for the longest time, i already said i had to muster up some courage to present a case, and i sorta just threw out whatever and the vote on aa influenced it.

You do not have to vote someone to imply they are scummy.

the quote speaks for itself, i'm not voting washed, it's not my intention to vote washed, it's my intention to keep my vote on gord, etc. etc.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

AA hasn't played town once, in every game so far he has been scum, so assert meta like i did with choice in Pulp Fiction (and i was right thank you very much!) this is the same ordeal.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

That doesn't mean he can't see what he town behavior or scum.

Also explain Gord wagon to me, I don't see it so much eye to eye.

 

[#HBC | Dark Horse]

Gord (1) -Soup
ThePaprikaKiller (0)
Red Ryu (0)
July (0)
Asdioh (4) -Gova, IR, AA
soup (1) -WL
laundry (1)-GLG
Gova (0)
Erupting Burning RYKERRR!!! (Ryker/Kuz) (0)
Inglorious ******* (JTB/Gheb)(1)- EBR,
GLG (0)
AA(4)- Gord, July, Asdioh, RR

Not Voting: TPK,

TPK has been prodded
GLG has been prodded

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

Well of course not, but he also doesn't have scum-buds to lean on.

i've explained my irrational thoughts about it.

The results are in: I think some certain things bother me about aa but i don't think it bothers me as much as you do, AA's first post was indeed sheepish but his latter post shows some serious scumhunting and had backbone, i feel all your posts are just are just insignificant and they don't help, sure, you'll point a finger or two, but act on it? no, **** that noise, let's just keep pointing fingers.

vote: Gordito

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I can sort of see that, but is meta the backbone of why you think AA is town?

I'll need to reread Gord, I don't think that holds as strongly as your suggesting if I remember his posts correctly. Still a reread on him is needed for me.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

No, but it helps my read on aa-town.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

I said you were town.
my read changed.

every available oppurtunity? the **** son? we have one argument and you want to think i'm out on your ***? i'm not even voting you, i'm not EVEN PURSUING YOU, i'm voting gord, i said i'm not gonna vote your sorry *** for nothing, as gord is still my top pick, mind you.

my reads are my actions, just because i'm not happy happy buddy buddy with my town reads doesn't mean ****, and that same goes with any other reads, it doesn't matter what my read on you is, the fact is i didn't like what you were doing, and that will affect my previous read, regardless, if i were to just meet you, and you did something like shoot someone in the face, how would i react? i'd call you a monster or something, but, if i knew you, or perhaps knew you were a good person, i might question your antics further because i believe you are a good person, and this action of yours will decide if i stay curt to this thought.

the point is, i see what AA is doing, i see the scumminess, i see it, but i just don't see the full picture, that's the same thing with you, i'm not sure if i want to FLIP YOU AS SCUM YET BECAUSE I STILL HAVE A TOWN READ ON YOU.

>Have me as a town read
>Keep saying your read on me changed

Like, seriously, you have me as a town read. Then you agree with AA saying you could see me on a scum team with Asdioh. You agree with GLG's ****ty case saying it's plausible when I know you know better than that. It doesn't add up. Then I call you on it, you get pissed off and start saying you're starting to read me as scum. You then say you still have a town read on me. Utter confusion is imminent and I'm certainly as hell gonna call you on it. Explain this.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

~June 27, 2011. 2:08 AM

Will get to real shiz in the morning, but wanted to address this first:



Using chainsaw defense as a scum tell is much more effective when used on the defender than the defended. If we get an AA scum flip, it even further secures a Soup scum read. But if we get a Soup scum flip, it's not necessarily as connecting to AA scum. I'm definitely fine with either lynch, and if you still feel the desire to lean toward the Soup lynch, than all power to ya mang. But I would hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiighly recommend headin on down and chillin on my wagon.

Fair enough.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

because im acting completely different to the scumplay you've experienced, probably

i acknowledge my own poor play and can't do anything to rectify it

guess i really was just a wuss, i should take harder stances next time

I tend not to apply meta if I can avoid it. You flipped scum in Toohoo (gasp ongoing games) but we lynched you because you were inactive, not because you were scummy.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

>Have me as a town read
>Keep saying your read on me changed

Like, seriously, you have me as a town read. Then you agree with AA saying you could see me on a scum team with Asdioh. You agree with GLG's ****ty case saying it's plausible when I know you know better than that. It doesn't add up. Then I call you on it, you get pissed off and start saying you're starting to read me as scum. You then say you still have a town read on me. Utter confusion is imminent and I'm certainly as hell gonna call you on it. Explain this.

Legit johns but i couldn't finish the paragraph i wanted to say yesterday because time restrictions.

ANYWAYS.

i was thumbs upping aa as a joke, i'm just saying "well, there's some progress, i approve."

I got mad because that chainsaw defense was weak, and we had that argument.

*nod* but that doesn't mean it hasn't changed, meaning i am more cautious of you, but i believe latter, the same goes with aa, which is paradox of the whole thing.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

No, but it helps my read on aa-town.

Helps meaning you have stuff in game that makes you think he is town. What in particular makes you think this?

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

no i didn't, i had gord as a scum-pick for the longest time, i already said i had to muster up some courage to present a case, and i sorta just threw out whatever and the vote on aa influenced it.

 

[#HBC | Laundry]

Legit johns but i couldn't finish the paragraph i wanted to say yesterday because time restrictions.

ANYWAYS.

i was thumbs upping aa as a joke, i'm just saying "well, there's some progress, i approve."

I got mad because that chainsaw defense was weak, and we had that argument.

*nod* but that doesn't mean it hasn't changed, meaning i am more cautious of you, but i believe latter, the same goes with aa, which is paradox of the whole thing.

Alright. I can accept this. For future purposes, do not sit here and say someone's scum without explanation of it. No one will believe you and a lot of people will suspect you.

unvote vote: AA, since there's apparently room on that wagon.

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

@RR

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12927345&postcount=426

 

[th3kuzinator]

Uhg really don't want to have to catchup in this.

AA is town because he is ****ing town and this growing case on him worries me.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

@RR

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=12927345&postcount=426

Your saying your conflicted here right? This here isn't helping me thinking he is town though, saying he flipped a coin to decide his pick today is not helping me think he is town.

Uhg really don't want to have to catchup in this.

AA is town because he is ****ing town and this growing case on him worries me.

This isn't even compelling in the slightest.

Is everyone basing this on meta or a bunch of games I don't know about?

 

[Inglorious Retards]

prod dodge

ill try to get caught up today, i had a really busy weekend and gheb is doing exams

 

[Gova]

@Kuz, I'd have to say null. I thought Soup brought up an interesting point about how AA could be newtown because he didn't stay calm and collected or whatever but then I remembered AA flipped his lid at me in Newbie 12 when I had him pegged and started cursing at me and stuff lol.

 

[th3kuzinator]

Okay follow up question on that. Does his play here look anything like it did in Newbie12?

 

[th3kuzinator]

@WL: Soup is town. Are you town that is somehow listening to Gord's blatant bull**** or are you scum? Serious question.

wtfamireading at the aa wagon. IR wagon completely collapsed within 2 days, ****s weird.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

"Perplexing"

Can I get a link to that game Gova referenced?