Welcome to Smashboards, the world's largest Super Smash Brothers community! Over 250,000 Smash Bros. fans from around the world have come to discuss these great games in over 19 million posts!
You are currently viewing our boards as a visitor. Click here to sign up right now and start on your path in the Smash community!
Well if Min Min is part of the Fighter, they could work in her kicks to vary the basic moves up a bit.
And as I've said in the newcomer speculation thread, since 4 characters are theorized to be part of this package and ARMS fighters only have one throw, those 4 characters's throws could be repurposed into the Smash fighter's 4.
I like that, helps to narrow it down a bit. I figure that we'd get two base fighters and two DLC to balance it out, and make fans of both sides happy.
They could also just reference other throws without really using 4 alts.
Then the question becomes, who is the defualt? Hero's iconic form is number 3 but the default is no 11 so ti's hard to tell how it'll go.
11 was also from the latest game, so that at least made some sort of sense.
The answer may be the character who becomes the main face of a hypothetical ARMS 2, much like how the final Splatfest affected Splatoon 2.
So basically... Min Min?
What I've said.
Inb4 it turns out they just screwed up drawing Ribbon Girl
Not only do I think we could get this, I believe this is the most likely scenario, and the reason I believe this to be the case is because it would be the best way to represent ARMS. No pun intended, but I don't think it's any stretch to say that the main draw of ARMS is the diverse roster of fighters, so getting as many of those as you can into Smash is easily the way to go.
Just like Ken and Ryu sharing a slot right?
So he thinks probably Biff too but in the way he's more like Pokémon Trainer who summons other fighters instead. That could work. After all, wrestling shows always had someone interrupting a match and it's no different in ARMS so Biff swapping fighters with comments like, for example, "OMG Twintelle just took out Master Mummy" and vice versa if ya want Master Mummy back would be clever and it would be the only way ya can use both light and heavyweights.
First off, that's a total false equivalency. Ryu and Ken have numerous differences between eachother, such as having different move parameters and completely different Final Smashes, so much so that combining them into a single character wouldn't be feasable.
I think Rogerbase's video is well done and is a good assessment. Only things I disagree with
Right just like the ARMS fighters. Except ARMS has more then just something as vague as "move parameters". ARMS fighters have entire abilities and stats like speed and arm size exclusive to themselves. As well as having VASTLY distinct animations and postures.
Olimar and Alph are functionally the same character. In their home game they have the exact same controls and the EXACT same animations for every action. The only difference is their spoken personalities but smash keeps them silent so thats irrelevant.
His design alone makes him one of the most memorable characters because of how weird it is lmao
*And their in-game abilities.
Pretty much every Dragon Quest MC is a jack of all trades that can learn most magic spells. They're completely interchangeable, especially the playable 4.
THANK YOU. It's interesting, I've been seeing more and more people be more open to the idea of Spring Man because they've been realizing his potential. In ARMS, he may be the most vanilla character, but in Smash? He's got unique attributes out the wazoo.
You'd be mistaken. Most of the spells Hero uses in Smash can't be learned by one or more of them. There's several that can't be learned by any of them, only by party members.
And those are the rare exceptions where the move is too iconic to leave out of Smash. Plus magic can be simply taught. The Hero using any spell is plausable enough that it doesnt cause any issue.
I dont understand this. It would be a complete betrayal of Smash as a whole. You'd essentially be creating some utterly schizophrenic original character. It would utterly defeat the purpose.
Remember, you're still believing they can break the rules by thinking it won't be the series' Ryu.
These are the "rare" exceptions:
As you can see, the overlap is immense. The fact that only one of them cant use the majority of the moves is a nothingburger. All 4 can use magic, thus plausibility mandates that there's nothing stopping the character from using any spells.
Hmm...good point.
I agree, however that's not nearly as true for the four I've been discussing.
While that may be true in some instances, such as their idle and victory animations, their basic movements and attacks aren't all that different. If these four were included as one general ARMS fighter, the idle, taunts, and victory animations are all that would need to be changed in terms of animation. Their punches would differ little, their jumps would differ little, their grabs would differ little, their aerials would differ little, even their Final Smash would differ little as they are all capable of using the same rapid-fire fisticuffs move when their special meter is full.
Well for one, we're most likely not getting any DLC Echo Fighters at all. Given that Sakurai has gone on record stating that they don't have any plans for DLC after Vol.2, as well as each Challenger Pack specifying only one fighter, I'd take that as a pretty clear joss against DLC Echoes. But even if they did decide to add Echoes to a Challenger Pack, it would be pretty unfair to the other DLC fighters. "Oh okay, my character comes alone, but they come with another character?! Talk about Sakurai Bias!"
From what I can tell, Echo Fighters are designated the way that they are based on how much development time is requires to make them, rather than how much of them is wholly different from their base fighter. From a designer's perspective, it takes much less time to make someone like Daisy or Chrom since all they'd have to do is reuse most of their base fighter's animations, attacks, grabs, even their Final Smashes in some cases, and their moveset is balanced compared to their base fighter rather than the rest of the cast, which takes even less time. It would explain why Dr. Mario isn't considered an Echo of Mario but Dark Samus is considered one for Samus, despite the former duo being superficially similar.
Also, I'm pretty sure one of them uses staves to attack and the other one is a manlet angel, which is pretty wildly different as far as protagonists go.
Wario is literally twice as wide as both Mario and Luigi combined. They are not at all comparable to the four ARMS characters I'm talking about. Take a look at this:
Different idle animations.
He wouldn't, those would be animations exclusive to those characters: Ninjara's dodges would have him warp as he usually does despite it functioning the exact same as everyone else's dodge, and Min-Min's left arm gimmick would be relegated to her Final Smash animation.
Okay, I was largely staying out of this debacle being myself someone who isn't super invested in how they end up implementing an ARMS rep into Smash, but I feel I have to interject here: Come on dude, I'll give you the point about Ninjara's teleporting, but I myself mentioned in this thread how ARMS the game itself allows any character to unlock and use any other character's arms, offering more potential moveset ideas to a singular or otherwise ARMS character. If you're really so keen on ARMS being accurate, you should know that. Yes, the dragon ARM is most commonly associated with Min-Min, granted, but nobody has to "grow" a dragon arm, because they can already use that arm in game. Min Min starts with the dragon arm, but Springman can use the dragon arm, Ribbon Girl can use the dragon arm, Twintelle can use the dragon arm, Lola Pop can use the dragon arm, Dr. Coyle can use the dragon arm. Literally every character can have that arm, and with enough playtime, literally every other arm, as an available tool they can use in the game. Equipping ARMS is a core gameplay mechanic, meaning it should be super not crazy to imagine an ARMS character in Smash equipping a different ARM than the ones they start with. The only thing exclusive to Min-Min that other characters aren't allowed to have canonically afaik is her kicks.
And arm girth. Minmin has both the smallest and the largest arms in the game by a wide margin. I'm not responding to every single paragraph you write because all you're doing is glossing over key character difference because you think they dont matter which is utterly absurd. Do I need to remind you that Sakurai put a symbol inside of a characters eyeball despite it being impossible to ever see in normal play? The man is obsessed with faithfulness and details to an insane degree. I'm utterly flabbergasted that you think sacrificing character-defining mechanics is something Sakurai would ever consider doing.
Please tell me you're trying to be funny right now.
I'm not. If I'm mistaken, please enlighten me. I admittedly haven't played ARMS myself, but is it not my understanding that any character can use all of the available arms in the game, and that unlocking, and mixing and matching many different kinds of arms, is encouraged?
that would be why it didnt seem right
