COMPETITIVE Brawl+: Code Agenda

[GPDP]

Good lord, Olimar is like the king of glitches.

I'll see if I can replicate it.

 

[Jiangjunizzy]

Hey everybody
I remember someone saying that they were getting glitches with the new shield stun code and i am not sure if they got that fixed. I saw that they were trying to replicate it and they could not. Me and my friend have it happen to us almost every single game. It happens when you perfect shield olimar's utilt.
Anyone else encounter this problem?

hi! welcome. i have not encountered this problem at all with my codes.

try this one out.

C28753EC 00000007
FC20F890 4800000D
40700000 40800000
839F007C A39C0006
2C1C001A 41820014
7F8802A6 C03C0000
C05C0000 FC2117FA
FC00081E 00000000
C277F78C 00000002
2C1C001D 41820008
B39E0006 2C1CFFFF
60000000 00000000

 

[kupo15]

wtf was this done for difficulties sake or because it was difficult already and this was simply trying to make things less "sloppy"?
I'll never understand some of you -_-.
Well maybe I will....awaiting response.

Its to give you more control with your inputs. We like control, right?

We need a modifier for this ASAP, last code to really bring this game together with the speed for me. Only thing else I could possibly want is the power shielding fixed.

Its impossible to make this a modifier. I believe Almas is the final version unless it doesn't affect the attacked with electric hits. Pw said it does so but I questioned it to be clear so waiting for that reply

Unfortunately, because all hitlag is stored in Hex instead of Floating Point, it is entirely impossible to modify it using the same - the only way that would be possible would be to completely reprogram every aspect of hitlag into floating point...

Playing with the code GTPO (sry dont remember the letters) its felt pretty good. I would like to see weak hits have a tad bit less hitlag

 

[poklin]

**** this is weird, i don't see .txt and when i do add .gct to it nothing happens

 

[MBlaze]

Well if this is his final version we have to find a way to make this work, I'm gonna try dividing by 3 since it's the closest we'll get to 30%, and if that's still too much I'll try 25%.

 

[Almas]

Power shielding ain't broke.

Hitlag Modifier [Phantom Wings, 7 lines]
C2771EC0 00000006
39C0000[COLOR="Red"]2[/COLOR] 2C04000[COLOR="DarkGreen"]5[/COLOR]
41800014 1C84000[COLOR="Blue"]1[/COLOR]
7C8473D6 3884000[COLOR="Yellow"]1[/COLOR]
48000008 3880000[COLOR="DarkOrange"]1[/COLOR]
90830010 60000000
60000000 00000000

[COLOR="Blue"]Multiply[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Divide[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Yellow"]Add[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Breakpoint[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Default[/COLOR]

If hitlag < Breakpoint, hitlag = default
else hitlag = hitlag*multiply/divide+add (in that order)

Note that it will perform chopping instead of rounding. For example, if I have *7/10:

1*7/10 = 0.7 = 0
2*7/10 = 1.4 = 1
3*7/10 = 2.1 = 2
4*7/10 = 2.8 = 2
5*7/10 = 3.5 = 3
6*7/10 = 4.2 = 4
7*7/10 = 4.9 = 4
8->5
9->6

Oh, and make sure it never produces 0s, because that's what is responsible for the freeze glitches. Probably.

RIGHT. SLEEP TIME. GO AWAY. ^.^

 

[cAm8ooo]

**** this is weird, i don't see .txt and when i do add .gct to it nothing happens

Im gettin ready to download it anyways. Ill tell you how to work it, hold on a sec.


Edit: Ok, just download it. Save it somewhere. At the end there is a .txt file extension. Change it to say .gct and there you go.

 

[GPDP]

Alright, just tested powershielding Olimar's utilt. Nothing happened. Nothing froze.

 

[GPDP]

Well if this is his final version we have to find a way to make this work, I'm gonna try dividing by 3 since it's the closest we'll get to 30%, and if that's still too much I'll try 25%.

I thought you wanted 30% less hitlag, not 30% hitlag.

 

[kupo15]

GPDP, what setting was your code you gave me? Cut in half and how many added?

 

[MBlaze]

Power shielding ain't broke.

Hitlag Modifier [Phantom Wings, 7 lines]
C2771EC0 00000006
39C0000[COLOR="Red"]2[/COLOR] 2C04000[COLOR="DarkGreen"]5[/COLOR]
41800014 1C84000[COLOR="Blue"]1[/COLOR]
7C8473D6 3884000[COLOR="Yellow"]1[/COLOR]
48000008 3880000[COLOR="DarkOrange"]1[/COLOR]
90830010 60000000
60000000 00000000

[COLOR="Blue"]Multiply[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Red"]Divide[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Yellow"]Add[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkGreen"]Breakpoint[/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkOrange"]Default[/COLOR]

If hitlag < Breakpoint, hitlag = default
else hitlag = hitlag*multiply/divide+add (in that order)

Note that it will perform chopping instead of rounding. For example, if I have *7/10:

1*7/10 = 0.7 = 0
2*7/10 = 1.4 = 1
3*7/10 = 2.1 = 2
4*7/10 = 2.8 = 2
5*7/10 = 3.5 = 3
6*7/10 = 4.2 = 4
7*7/10 = 4.9 = 4
8->5
9->6

Oh, and make sure it never produces 0s, because that's what is responsible for the freeze glitches. Probably.

RIGHT. SLEEP TIME. GO AWAY. ^.^

I feel really stupid for not understanding this but if anyone could get 30% out of this, that would be great.

 

[MBlaze]

I thought you wanted 30% less hitlag, not 30% hitlag.

Woops, yeah, screwed up in my sentence there.

 

[Almas]

multiply 7 divide 10 is 30% less hitlag. use hex.

 

[GPDP]

GPDP, what setting was your code you gave me? Cut in half and how many added?

1 frame added.

And Mario, what is it exactly you want? a 30% reduction in hitlag, or 30% of the usual hitlag?

 

[.MaRiO]

I have the replays on my brawl but dont really know how to upload it
I have about 5 saved on my Wii
Not sure if its the other codes that might be making it happen
cuz im also playing with directional air dodge so that could be it

 

[MBlaze]

I tested 33.3% hitlag for fun and CF's knee is just like it was in Melee. Try it.

 

[kupo15]

multiply 7 divide 10 is 30% less hitlag. use hex.

To make it clear mario, A=10 ^_^

So almas for the 30% less part, I don't have to touch the breakpoint or default and I change add to 0?

 

[GPDP]

I might as well say it.

Thanks for your tireless efforts, Almas.

 

[SketchHurricane]

edit: whoops didn't see the new hitlag code...nvm

 

[MBlaze]

multiply 7 divide 10 is 30% less hitlag. use hex.

I replaced the multiplication value there with 7 but how the hell do you put 10 into division? xD

Btw guy for fun, 33.3% hitlag with CF is EXACTLY like Melee Falcon, try him nao!

 

[kupo15]

did you not read my post mario? I answered that because I knew you would ask

 

[MBlaze]

did you not read my post mario? I answered that because I knew you would ask

I didn't, sorry.

 

[GPDP]

I think the break point should be a touch lower. It should be 4 instead of 5, so that drills lose one frame of hitlag. That's IMO, of course.

 

[Frogles]

Err what do I use to get 33.3%?

 

[GPDP]

Err what do I use to get 33.3%?

Put 3 in the division line.

Also, add the latest code to the OP, kupo.

 

[kupo15]

I think the break point should be a touch lower. It should be 4 instead of 5, so that drills lose one frame of hitlag. That's IMO, of course.

so let me get this straight for 30% less hitlag

mult 7
div A
add 0
Break 4
default 1

 

[SketchHurricane]

so let me get this straight for 30% less hitlag

mult 7
div A
add 0
Break 4
default 1

right, but personally I would set break to 3. That way you get 3 -> 2 (-33%) instead of 3 -> 1 (-66%)

1 -> 1
2 -> 1
3 -> 2
4 -> 2
5 -> 3
6 -> 4
7 -> 4
8 -> 5
10 -> 7

 

[kupo15]

aim please. Im so confused

 

[Osi]

I've decided to wait on hitstun/SS until all this is figured out. I'm so confused on these codes lol. Sure enjoying the DD still, so I'm sure I'll be content for a while hahhaha.

 

[MBlaze]

I put the break on 4 like you guys said but other than that, I love 30%.

 

[plasmatorture]

Man, never thought I'd see a use for math again in my life again. No idea what numbers to try out but I feel like something like -40% might be good maybe...

Here's my match from earlier today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuDMNZDbplE

My roommate pretty much never plays MK either, sadly (especially considering Marth was my main in melee and is close to being my best in B+).

 

[GPDP]

I see no reason to go below 50%+1 IMO. It feels plenty good to me. Unless, of course, everyone feels there still needs to be some kind of visible hitlag for attacks with lots of it for SDIing purposes.

Also, will PW do something about electric hitlag?

 

[MyCurse4Life]

Let's all agree to disagree. Makes sence to you? Good, because I have no idea. (it's not that hard to KO)

 

[MBlaze]

I'll negotiate to go up to 35%.

 

[plasmatorture]

I'll negotiate to go up to 35%.

Please note I haven't tested 40%, so I don't really know.
Lucario was waaaay too good at -50%, though, by the way.

Also, someone said that with less hitlag they felt there needed to be more hitstun and I totally agree.

 

[SketchHurricane]

Please note I haven't tested 40%, so I don't really know.
Lucario was waaaay too good at -50%, though, by the way.

Also, someone said that with less hitlag they felt there needed to be more hitstun and I totally agree.

How would hitlag have an adverse effect on hitstun?

 

[kupo15]

I see no reason to go below 50%+1 IMO. It feels plenty good to me. Unless, of course, everyone feels there still needs to be some kind of visible hitlag for attacks with lots of it for SDIing purposes.

Also, will PW do something about electric hitlag?

PW said it currently does but I asked again to be sure

Man, never thought I'd see a use for math again in my life again. No idea what numbers to try out but I feel like something like -40% might be good maybe...

Here's my match from earlier today: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuDMNZDbplE

My roommate pretty much never plays MK either, sadly (especially considering Marth was my main in melee and is close to being my best in B+).

Ok I was talking with sketch and he made it crystal clear.

Multiply-multiplies the current hitlag to the number you chose 0-16 (0-F)
Divide- Divides the current hitlag to the number you chose 0-16 (0-F)
Break point- Any moves with the default hitlag below this number is not affected by the mult and div functions
Default-Any move where the original hitlag is lower than the break point is set to this number of frames 0-16 (0-F)
Add- Adds 0-16 (0-F) frames of hitlag to everything

Sketch's plan
Mult-5
div-A (10)
break-1
default-1
add-1

What this does:

All moves that the original hitlag are greater or equal to 1 will get cut in half (5/10=.5) with 1 added

so:
original hitlag 1 is halved to 0.5 (decimals are cutoff) so its 0 add 1=1

1-1
2-2
3-2
4-3
5-3
6-4
.......
15-8

Basically everything is halved plus 1

Sketch, correct me if im wrong

Sketchs half everything add 1 hitlag code

C2771EC0 00000006
39C0000A 2C040001
41800014 1C840005
7C8473D6 38840001
48000008 38800001
90830010 60000000
60000000 00000000

 

[SketchHurricane]

What's everybody using for the new shield stun code? Still 3/3?

 

[kupo15]

The code set your about to upload for me has 2.75/4

Everyone: Sketch updated my code set so the download in the OP is up to date as of now. Every code with the **** next to it show you what is turned on in the gct file. Thanks sketch!

 

[zxeon]

The code set your about to upload for me has 2.75/4

Isn't 2.75/ (it doesn't matter what you put in the second value because it doesn't do anything) the best value so far because people haven't reported the Perfect shield glitch with it?