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Id say 50/50 considering its a game sakurai worked on
I wouldn't hold my breath.
I think Dark Pit appears at the end of the trailer as a means to segue into another trailer. I wouldn't worry about Dark Pit being a playable character at this point. Magnus is an AT and so is Phosphora, so they're out, and Viridi is a stage element, so I'd say she's out as well. Most of the other characters besides Pit and Palutena weren't big enough to be considered for Smash representation anyway, except for..
I won't. It means Sakurai has a much bigger roster than we think if he can spare a spot for Shadow the Angel.
I am almost certain we are not getting one.
Maybe DLC.
Come now, that really isn't warranted. Don't think there is a worse insult than that. He's probably a boss, anyway. The tease is reminiscent of the one they did with Ridley, and both Pyrosphere as well as Palutena's Temple were excluded from the Demo.
I can't find the original source for this. Do you know the link?
It's not just Smashboards. Hades is pretty much the best and most lovable villain in any Nintendo game, so it's easy to see why.
Shadow is a character I enjoy when he's not super angsty. So you're insulting Shadow, not me.
Go play Kid Icarus: Uprising, and you, too, will know the warm, loving embrace of Hades. He desires only your love and devotion.
Ah. I haven't gotten to Hades in KI:U I've made it to Viridi, does that count? Also, I don't think we'll be getting a 3rd KI rep.
An insult? How?
That's true. I guess I'd only get mad if we got Dark Pit and only had a ~51 character roster. I'd be perfectly okay with him if we managed to get a roster in the 60s and had all the big names already.
I'm the opposite. Uprising is my favorite 3DS game but I liked pretty much every other god much more than Palutena.
Dark Pit wouldn't really have much chance of getting in anyway. Sakurai said already that he doesn't want duplicates of any character. Which means he wouldn't want any characters with the same move sets or characters that are basically the same. With that said, Characters like Paper Mario and Dark Pit have no chance, and neither does Wolf. I believe that they would bring back Falco, but maybe change his move set a little.
How is Wolf a duplicate character?
Fox, Falco, and Wolf are all basically the same. I believe that Falco and Fox are the superior of the three, yet all 3 of them have the same move set. I think that Wolf will be cut, and replaced with Krystal, and that Falco's move set will be changed so he can continue in smash. Of any of those 4 characters, Fox is the only one confirmed.
Wolf barely has the same moveset. If anyone would be cut for being a "duplicate" character, it'd be Falco over Wolf hands down.
Link and Toon Link have the same FS and both returned. Zelda and Sheik have the same FS this time too.
That's not good logic. Sheik and Zelda have the same Final Smash.
As someone who works in the industry, I can tell you that design does matter when it come to game and character development. But don't take that from me, here's a past example direct from Nintendo where character design clearly did matter:
Yes, it's true that Luigi started out as a mere palette swap, but he was given a redesign for Super Mario Bros. 2 (USA). That design carried over and was used for Luigi's likeness in Nintendo's media/ads and future titles defining him as a separate character individually and design-wise before Smash 64 came out.And if design did matter....then we would never have Luigi in Smash, who's generally been a palette swap of Mario with very slight changes since his conception as a character.
Also, take Kirby. Recolor him navy blue with white eyes and purple feet. Give him gloves, shoulder pads, a cape, a sword, and a mask. Who do you have? Meta Knight.
So is Bandanna Dee. He's literally Waddle Dee's design wearing a piece of clothing and a slight color tint depending on the game. Same with Yellow Toad and Blue Toad. Or Red Yoshi. Or Metal Mario. They're palette swaps of another character's design even if they a separate defined individual in their games. As you can see, derivative character's utilize a "color/clothing/power" "original character's name" naming scheme. That's just how character design works. Can a derivative character design get their own slot? Yes, see Dr. Mario. But would Dr. Mario get in over Mario?
Clone, no.
I don't think you have any business talking down to people when you're the one thinking Wolf's similarity to Fox means he has no chance.
My point is that they enough differences to warrant staying in, so I don't really think it matters much if their moves originated from Fox. The fact they have different playstyles means they shouldn't be cut, if you ask me.
I don't think this conversation should go any farther.
I exaggerated a bit. The only decent appearence Shadow has imo is Adventure 2 Battle, he was poorly written in nearly every other one (though, that doesn't mean much given that most of those games are poorly written overall).
I think the only exception would be due to time constraints. If they had to pick one of the two or an original character, then I personally think the original character should be in before one of the two. Then add the cut character for DLC if possible.
Squirtle and Ivysaur.
