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Gematsu leak doesn't say anything about Snake being cut.
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Sega didn't use language that implies he isn't showing up like Kojima did.
Snake is DOA as per Kojima's words. If he doesn't know if Snake is being used or not, at this stage in the game, then Snake is gone. Gematsu is ironclad. Name something, anything it's gotten wrong. Chrom and Shulk are sure enough to bet on. They're as sure as Mewtwo's inclusion is not. There is nothing in the game or surrounding the game that remotely hints at his arrival. Jiggly is an O12. Mewtwo died on the table in Brawl, and with how complete he was, it was likely because Sakurai just decided he wasn't good enough. You do not get that much done in a rush job, so what's the alternative? If Mewtwo couldn't cut the mustard when work was already well along, why does starting over increase his chances? If Mewtwo is in the game, it's as a Boss Battle or Boss Hazard. His status as a Legendary and his dual Mega-Evolutions work perfectly across the two consoles(just like Ridley and Meta Ridley can be independent bosses, one on either console).
Namco said nothing about Pac-Man.
Arena Ferox.
None of these function at all like Snake's moves. Burst Grenade doesn't even seem like a projectile, but a move that closes the distance between Sheik and the opponent since it DRAWS them in, and Sheik has a string attached to it. Winged Pikmin doesnt seem like it has armor like Snake, is faster and attacking out of it will cause Olimar to be helpless. I have no idea what you mean about the crash bomber.
Tell me why Charizard and Bowser both have flame breathe then.
Good one, that actually made me chuckle.
Just like how Lucario was a clone of Mewtwo.
I get what your saying, but I was trying to say that they're similar in idea and in function.
What about the fact that he wouldn't fit in the group with the rest of the third parties?
Never heard of closure contracts (I believe that's what it's called) have you?
So Shulk and Chrom are now the least likely characters in the world? Well that's good, because while I like Shulk, I hate Chrom.
You mean like Shulk and Chrom?
The rush job was Sonic, and everyone else who was made behind him, being Toon Link, Jiggly, and Wolf, along with Mewtwo and Roy, who unfortunately, due to time constraints and Sonic, wasn't able to return. So no, he was not planned to be cut until the last minute.
Big boi I ain't even talkin bout clones mayne. Butt ye Luc and Mew2 deff kinda fel sim cuz thay flowtee en they got dem saym nootral b but dey aint clones dawg they totes diff characterz yo
I'm listening for your counterargument. Protip: fan opinion doesn't matter to Sakurai, so might want to dump the 'but the faaaaanz' plea.
Sanic duh Hedgehag.
I'm conflicted on this. On one hand, I hear this, but on the other hand, I also hear that Sonic was intended to be in in the first place when the roster was decided but Sega initially said no, only to change their mind much later and called Nintendo if they can put him in.
I don't think you can really say Sakurai cares nothing for what fans want. The inclusion of characters like Sonic, Mega Man, and Little Mac should show that Sakurai does actually listen to his fans.
Namco did say something about Pacman.
A "no comment" would be applicable in such an instance. Kojima's response insinuated that a: he was ignorant of Snake's involvement and b: was giving approval to Sakurai to use Snake. Why do that if it's already been done(and nevermind possible legal action by Konami if Kojima lied about his knowledge of Snake's use, he could be in trouble for perjury there). That's why 'No Comment' exists.
I think you had a tiny bit of trouble parsing my sentence.So Shulk and Chrom are now the least likely characters in the world? Well that's good, because while I like Shulk, I hate Chrom.
I have Gematsu(information actually about the game) to back up those two, and I don't even like them. Where's your backup of Mewtwo? Some vague "we're considering it" that could just as easily infer he's a boss hazard? Neat. Can't wait to see that proven.You mean like Shulk and Chrom?
And yet, not only did both make it, but then Gematsu says LUCAS is the one that's going to die for Ness's sake. Do we still want to ignore O12?
So, let me get this straight. They were working on Mewtwo, starting Tink, Jiggs, and Wolf AFTER starting Mewtwo and Roy, and then when Sonic came up, decided to ditch him when logically he'd have had more work done than those other three? Sounds like a second-rate character then, at least in Sakurai's eyes, no?
Echoes of Brawl. Remember the fiasco that was R.O.B.? The lack of Krystal? Ridley? Mewtwo? Boy the fans sure were mad on Jan 31st, 2008. I re-read those forums for giggles.
Because it's Kojima, you actually expect him to say that?
Since you can't wait to see it proven, I guess my argument is for this.
He says he doesn't know. He's just assuming Lucas is likely to get cut. So really, that arguments kind of invalid.
I think you misunderstood me, they were working on Mewtwo and Roy along with Tink, Jiggs, and Wolf. Tink, Jiggs, and Wolf were just fortunate enough to be finished, while if we had more time or didn't get Sonic, Mewtwo and Roy would have also been finished.
Just because Sakurai hasn't given fans everything they ask for doesn't mean he doesn't care for them. Frankly, he does care about us.
M2Y can be a Boss by those words too.
Ain't it good?I found your video on Youtube.
We'll see who comes down on the right.Since you can't wait to see it proven, I guess my argument is for this.
Right. Evidence shows Lucas is very likely gone. A 47 character roster reinforces that because there's not enough room for him to return. At least not without someone else losing their slot.
Why would Mewtwo and Roy(two characters they've made before) take longer than a brand new character(Wolf) and two other characters they've made before(Tink + Jiggs)? That makes no sense, unless Mewtwo was just a lower priority(which was my point all along). You don't half-do your big hitters unless you don't consider them big hitters.
Not trivial. Ambiguous, enough so that it can be inferred that Mewtwo is a boss character because his split Mega Evolution along with his Legendary status screams Boss treatment.
Some choice quotes from Sakurai:
I give your video a 9.5
He's also no slave to player expectation. Again, I need only point to the poll he set up and then promptly disregarded.
Thanks! :DI give your video a 9.5
Well, when the game's limits are such as to include all those characters, then that'll be swell.I think we kind of already technically know the roster because we know that the characters in the game exist somewhere in the gaming universe.
Alas, we've only so many to pick and speculate on.
That would also mean Sonic's gone too though, because Sega didn't have any idea about it either, and never said "no comment" But I guess people are overanaylizing it just like Ridley, they're obviously both in.
Aww, I wanted the left...
Eh, I think we're getting more than 47, but too each their own, and by someone else, do you mean Ness? Because I can still see his cut happening.
Probably because they were harder to make, as Toon Link has the same attacks as Link, just a different gravity style, Jiggly is easier to make due to her body shape resembling Kirby's (like in 64), and Wolf had some of the same specials as Fox, which is easier to make than Mewtwo (who has a completely original moveset) and Roy (who I believe would have been more of a semi-clone, like Wolf, but just lower priority than him)