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Ha, I forgot. Ok. My argument still stands for Brawl, though. Toon link replaced young link, but we lost the good doctor altogether.
If Snake returning as DLC isn't a reference to a Metal Gear 5 Wii U port, I wouldn't even bother saving a spot for a scam artist's character.
Here we finally go, my latest post-E3 2014 roster, in a 48 characters+Mii Fighter special design.
Here's also my roster containing other potential fighters that would make DLC or AT materials, including the cuts I've made:
EDIT: Replaced Ray with Takamaru.
Yes, but she was made to be a tag-team with Diddy, which she obviously isn't now, so on that level, they're on even grounds.
I wouldn't say even playing grounds since she was even considered at all. And if they are made sheik and zero suit samus her own I feel like they'll give Dixie a chance. Also she'll be easier to make since her and diddys designs are most likely similar
Do you mean her model is easy/simple? That's a little different.
In Jigglypuff's case, I think they technically could, but I don't see it happening.
eh i personally do not think so because sakuria is more trollish then that he like to tease and having something as hidden as that I do not see
Nothing is suggesting Mewtwo is coming back. There is zero evidence that he's on the rebound. It's going to be five pokemon.
Why are you so confident there will only be five Pokemon?
I'll summarize:
All of this is really shoddy evidence.
- Mewtwo was cut from melee?
- Mewtwo was very present in Melee. He was cut from Brawl very late in development judging from how his files were still somewhat complete.
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Essentially, it's the theory that on the CSS, no franchise can out-represent Mario. Which means Mewtwo's up a creek without a paddle with Jigglypuff's impending O12 return, at least if the Mario Theory is true(as it has been in all three previous games).
I have zero doubt that the CSS will shift slightly to accomodate new characters(the current size of character icons are too large to accomodate anything close to 47 + Random). Just as Brawl lined up to 35 + Random, Smash 4 will line up to 47 + Random. I point at the 3DS to support my assertion.All of this is really shoddy evidence.
He was the character with the most data, suggesting he was cut late in development. I think being planned for all three games is a favor to him. Greninja has nothing to do with Mewtwo, period. He isn't filling a "niche" that Mewtwo would fill. If Sakurai wanted to add both, he would. Sakurai being asked about the Mewtwo thing holds nothing either for or against Mewtwo, as he shouldn't be blabbing out info about the game. Gematsu has nothing to do with Mewtwo's inclusion, as the leaker never specified if those were all of the newcomers (which Mewtwo even isn't).
The CSS for a DEMO for Christ's sake means nothing. This was the Brawl demo:
Does that look anything like the Brawl Roster? Apart from the six at the top staying at the top, there is nothing to support that the final roster will look like or model itself after the CSS DEMO (and remember that the slots shrunk from Brawl's starting roster into more manageable spaces). Also, Jigglypuff being in, again, holds no water for or against Mewtwo. There aren't these "slot" capacities. Sakurai will add whoever he damn pleases and will make it fit on the roster.
Also, can someone fill me in on this Mario Theory?
Okay, cut from Brawl. My point remains, Mewtwo died on the table and shows no signs of life.
According to Gematsu, it sure does. Guess what hasn't been wrong yet?
Maybe as a boss character, eh? Mewtwo's legendary status plus the fact that he's got two different megas make sense for one platform to have M2Y and the other to have M2X. If we see something akin to Cerulean Cave, I'd suggest to brace yourself.
Yes. See: Three prior Smash games.
What's outdated? Everything's been confirmed on that list so far. Rosalina exists as the exception to the rule and Nintendo just beat the leaker to the punch on her.
That was long ago. The decision is made, and I have every reason to believe that Ness made it and Lucas is dead.
You know, icons on Brawl's starting roster shrunk. So....yeah.
Brawl would like to speak to you.
Yoshi, Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong and Wario are consider Mario characters.
No they're not. They're considered Yoshi, Donkey Kong, and WarioWare characters.
He's shown no evidence to that effect Unless Pokemon didn't have more than four reps' worth of worthy characters to put in Brawl(like, y'know, Mewtwo).
Brawl CSS:
Incorrect. They started in the Mario universe, but are now their own franchises(as per Wooly World, DKC Returns, and WarioWare). Unless you think K. Rool is a Mario rep too or Ashley. Even Diddy Kong suffers from that problem, and I'm positive he only came about from DKC, which had nothing to do with Mario.
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Sakurai considers the Pokemon Trainer to be 3 separate characters, Squirtle, Ivysaur and Charizard. That means 6 Pokemon characters.
On the character select screen. Pokemon might technically have six characters in brawl, but since the Pokemon Trainer is treated as one character on the character select screen both Mario and Pokemon have four slots.
Kindly point out where Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur are on the CSS if you would. WITHOUT selecting or highlighting Pokemon Trainer first.Fix'd
Yet they only have four slots on the CSS. Pokemon Trainer has only one slot. Which makes Pokemon equal to Mario in CSS representation. Which makes the Mario Theory remain valid.
Yoshi, Wario, and Donkey Kong originate from the Mario series.
He's speaking of SLOTS, that's what the Mario theory is supposed to be looking at, i don't agree with it either but seriously i don't see how is it so hard to see his point.
That doesn't change that fact that there are unique Donkey Kong, Yoshi, and Wario universe symbols. If they were counted as Mario characters they'd use the standard mushroom symbol that represents the Mario series.
But the point is that in Smash Bros Sakurai doesn't count YoshI, Wario or DK as Mario characters, hence their different icons.
You don't fight using slots, you fight using characters.
I have no idea what a CSS is, but Sakurai does consider them individual characters, making Pokemon and Zelda have more than Mario.
CSS stands for "Character Select Screen".
But that's not what the Mario theory is saying. It says that no series can have more character SLOTS than the Mario series. This holds true for Brawl, as Pokemon has four on the character select screen. Not as individual characters, but as slots. As such, it does not out-represent the Mario series in that regard. I don't believe in the theory myself, but it's not that hard to comprehend.
I know that. What part of my post implied I didn't?
Charizard, Squirtle, and Ivysaur literally cannot exist without each other due to Pokemon Trainer working the way he did. At least not before Project M's hackery entered the fray. And even then, they weren't given their own slot, they were grouped under PT. Same with Sheik and Zelda, they cannot exist without one another. At least not until Smash 4 where they were finally and fully separated.
Ignore it all you like, but you face then the peril that faced those unwilling to even consider the steadily-mounting evidence in favor of the Brawl 35-character roster. This is a valid tool for speculation that will continue to be valid until proven wrong, and it's survived three games so far. Check the math, if you like.
I was replying to ScatmansWorld25.
