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I would honestly assert that Hades has a chance. I do not feel as though we need to advocate for an either/or fallacy here! :awesome:
Why not all three?:p But yeah, Hades is a good choice too, especially with that wicked hair! But, I would love to see the two goddesses duke it out in Smash over Hades in my opinion. Too many good choices is the problem here.
 

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Sakurai's Twitter pic from two years ago:
Don't.
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I don't like it when a tweet or whatever leads to needless speculation getting spread around. For example, when I tweet about playing some game, some people immediately get the idea that that character is in the new Smash Bros. Then people fan the flames on it, people start to think it's really true, people get angry about it. Nobody benefits.
 
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I know, but don't you think it's weird for him to put a Dark Pit figure with Charizard solo and Samus having her Other M design as shown in the picture.
It probably won't tell you much, but I personally think it does, just like how the Monado picture shows that Sakurai is aware of Xenoblade.
I think it has more to do with the fact that Pit and Dark Pit's new figures were just made at that time. Sakurai was probably just messing with them and wanted to show us.

Keep in mind that the reason Samus has her Other M design is because her most recent poseable figure was that one.
 

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I doubt they'll do newcomer DLC, but, if they do, Inklings should be a priority.
Really, because it seems incredibly
Logical for them to do so. I would be shocked if There wasn't a Dlc newcomer. It would be a wasted opportunity.
 

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Dark Pit breaks the rule stated by Sakurai that newcomers will get their own trailers. I believe Dark Pit is disconfirmed by that.
Can I have a source for that? Not that I don't believe you or anything, because I remember hearing him say that too but I just forgot where and when.

It's also interesting because doesn't that mean all newcomers will get their own trailer, thus making it possible we'll get all newcomers revealed before the release? Unless the trailer gets uploaded AFTER the release. Eh
 

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So Gematsu leak confirmed to be fake? Sakurai never hinted at Shulk! :rolleyes:

He says that, but he does not mean it.
The Monado was probably also unrelated. He probably played the game a bit at some point (whether it be for research purposes or because it's a fantastic game) and enjoyed it. I'd be happy to see a replica of something cool from a game I enjoyed too.
 
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Dark Pit breaks the rule stated by Sakurai that newcomers will get their own trailers. I believe Dark Pit is disconfirmed by that.
No not really, but the Dark Pit ending in the trailer is something odd to note about, even if he appeared in the trailer, it's even more strange it's done in a "sequel hook" fashion.

Don't you think it has at least some sort of influence?
 

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Dark Pit breaks the rule stated by Sakurai that newcomers will get their own trailers. I believe Dark Pit is disconfirmed by that.
He also asserted that all revealed characters would have a page dedicated to them on the website; yet, as of current, Game & Watch is missing. So, for all intents and purposes, he is contradicting himself, or Game & Watch is deconfirmed. I choose to believe the former.
 

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Didn't he say at the roundtables that they're not ready to reveal G&W officially just yet?

Don't quote me on it!
 

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Young Link could come back sometime with a OoT/MM moveset.

Give him different items from those games (or have him have some mask oreinted smash attacks..IE throws on a goron mask right qucik and smashes ground down smash) and a Feirce Deity Final Smash.

Don't think he will come back anytime soon, though.

If they do a MM remake it will be a tad more likely but still far off unfortunately.
 
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I think it has more to do with the fact that Pit and Dark Pit's new figures were just made at that time. Sakurai was probably just messing with them and wanted to show us.

Keep in mind that the reason Samus has her Other M design is because her most recent poseable figure was that one.
Or maybe that was the best design Sakurai wanted to use for her Smash 4 appearance?
Like how the Twilight Princess design of Link was kept and while the best design of Megaman and Pac-Man were used.
 
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About the whole trailer thing, I think this could be just sakurai trolling us yet again. Game & Watch is a similar case. Yeah, he's not a newcomer, but why wouldn't he be on the site? I mean just look at Ridley. If he was a stage hazard, why doesn't he just tell us, but at the same time he could very well be just a boss.Nobody knows because it's Sakurai.
 

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Or maybe that was the best design Sakurai wanted to use for her Smash 4 appearance?
Like how the Twilight Princess design of Link was kept and while the best design of Megaman and Pac-Man were used.
Dude, it's literally the only poseable Samus figure of its kind. You're reading too much into it.
 

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He also asserted that all revealed characters would have a page dedicated to them on the website; yet, as of current, Game & Watch is missing. So, for all intents and purposes, he is contradicting himself, or Game & Watch is deconfirmed. I choose to believe the former.
Well, one difference is that Game & Watch is a veteran.

Disconfirmations are a big source of butthurt, so a disconfirmed character is never ever shown.

Which explains why we haven't seen Squirtle or Ivysaur yet.
 

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Dude, it's literally the only poseable Samus figure of its kind. You're reading too much into it.
Ok then, I was probably grasping harder on the design, but still the interesting Dark Pit figure part is rather strange, I'll just tell you that as my final conclusion from the picture.

Well, one difference is that Game & Watch is a veteran.

Disconfirmations are a big source of butthurt, so a disconfirmed character is never ever shown.

Which explains why we haven't seen Squirtle or Ivysaur yet.
Doesn't change the fact that he didn't confirm him as playable, still it's the reason why my mind is still boggling.

Objectively speaking; If it is relevant to Smash, it has some influence, even if that influence is negligible.
Yeah, I agree with this, from the picture here, it is definitely related to Smash with the Nintendo figures facing each other.
 
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To be fair, Dark Pit supporters have some decent hints in their favor (as much or more than anyone non-Gematsu, really). There is that old tweet of him posed with a bunch of returning characters, which doesn't necessarily mean anything but is worthy of an arched eyebrow. Then there's his appearance in Palutena's trailer and her poster, which so far is unprecedented. It's an obvious tease, but to what exactly is anybody's guess. I'm not saying, "Oh, yeah, he's definitely in," but I don't think he should be offhandedly disregarded, either.
 

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To be fair, Dark Pit supporters have some decent hints in their favor (as much or more than anyone non-Gematsu, really). There is that old tweet of him posed with a bunch of returning characters, which doesn't necessarily mean anything but is worthy of an arched eyebrow. Then there's his appearance in Palutena's trailer and her poster, which so far is unprecedented. It's an obvious tease, but to what exactly is anybody's guess. I'm not saying, "Oh, yeah, he's definitely in," but I don't think he should be offhandedly disregarded, either.
Nah. Mewtwo has more blatant "hints" in his favor; in fact, I would not assert that they are hints, more like allusions.
 

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He only has Sakurai's opinion of Mewtwo back at E3 2013 in his favor so far, that alone isn't much, but still it's worth noting.
Sakurai's assertion is more than can be said for ANY character; there was also the Greninja trailer allusion, you do not just "forget" to animate a pelvic fin along with webbed fingers. After that, there was his "forbidden 7" data which is not a direct hint, per se. However, it is safe to presume that characters that were intended to be in Brawl might be considered for Smash 4. Mewtwo is also a veteran (which is a hint in and of itself, otherwise, we would not be considering characters like Captain Falcon or Ganondorf "shoe-ins.")

Pittoo has a fan-art, a figure, and a cameo in the same vein as Doc Louis (day 1 main).
 

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Dark Pit?
Instead of His glorious, fabulous, and purple-ness, the almighty ruler of the Underworld, Hades?
I would be very disappointed.
 

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Character DLC in Smash 4 is just a weird thing to think about. There are so many variables.

For one, when did they start planning the DLC? We have confirmation that Sakurai finished the roster 2 years ago, but does that include the DLC characters? If not, when would he plan the characters themselves? The leak said that DLC was planned sure, but are they planning the characters themselves yet? Would it be sometime before the game launched or after?

And even if the characters were being considered after the game launched, are we only talking about veterans or are newcomers included as well? Would the newcomers only before 2012 be considered or do characters appearing from 2013-2015 have a shot with DLC?

Just a lot to think about and it kinda makes me excited actually. Who knows what this could mean. :)
 

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Let's not forget the Greninja troll.:troll:
I think people are looking TOO much into that.

When has Mewtwo done a ninja hand sign? Something the silhouette immediately did. Let's not forget that Shadow Ball looks NOTHING like Water Shuriken. (How did that not make it obvious?)
 
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I think people are looking TOO much into that.

When has Mewtwo done a ninja hand sign? Something the silhouette immediately did. Let's not forget that Shadow Ball looks NOTHING like Water Shuriken. (How did that not make it obvious?)
Since when did Greninja not have a pelvic fin or webbed fingers?! The answer is simple; during the Smash Direct where everyone was expecting Mewtwo right after the Charizard reveal (Pokemon Origins probably gave most people the idea).
 
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Since when did Greninja not have a pelvic fin or webbed fingers?! The answer is simple; during the Smash Direct where everyone was expecting Mewtwo right after the Charizard reveal (Pokemon Origins probably gave most people the idea).
I think that was more to hide Greninja's identity, since the webbed fingers would have immediately given it away.

But then, I immediately knew it was Greninja the moment I saw the hand sign, so whatever.
 
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