Character Discussion Thread

[Pazzo.]

Melee Ganondorf > Brawl Ganondorf
Melee Falco > Brawl Falco
Young Link > Toon Link (I have no idea why they got rid of the things that made Young Link particularly different from Link.)
Doctor Mario > Melee AND Brawl Mario.


Hmm, yes. Falcon aside, I main Doc and Falco in Melee.

Well then, let's just make Mario a better character and avoid this roster-filling nonsense.

EDIT: Our avatars are going to make this discussion 'that' much better.

 

[Knight Dude]

Irrelevant point.
You gave the point (or to be exact, you quoted someone else's point) that sleep = Jigglypuff because sleep would be redundant otherwise because of stun. However, the point of redundancy is invalid due to the fact it was redundant to begin with (even more so with both statuses using the same damn animation in 64), and more sleep-inducing elements have been brought into Smash since Melee (where unique animations were given) and sleep has been given reverse properties to stun (sleep lasts longer the more damage a character has, while higher damage makes it easier to snap out of stun), making sleep less redundant.
Ergo sleep =/= Jigglypuff automatically.


More people see Toon Link as more acceptable than Dr. Mario.
Personally, I see them roughly the same.

I can sort of see your point. Though I think why people are slightly more accepting to Toon Link, is that he's a different size, and he's one of the more prominent incarnations of the character. Having said that, he's still gets his fair share of backlash too. I think more people would be accepting of Dr.Mario if he ever gets some new moves.

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

I hope that Dr. Mario and Dr. Luigi are costumes.

 

[PlasmaPuffball]

Melee Ganondorf > Brawl Ganondorf
Melee Falco > Brawl Falco
Young Link > Toon Link (I have no idea why they got rid of the things that made Young Link particularly different from Link.)
Doctor Mario > Melee AND Brawl Mario.


Hmm, yes. Falcon aside, I main Doc and Falco in Melee.

Wasn't Samus significantly better in Melee than Brawl too? Or were you just talking about clones?

 

[Spinosaurus]

Unless they pull a Project M and gave Mario some of Doc's best attributes, I really don't like combo-heavy Mario compared to powerhouse Doc.

It's the subtle things that made me appreciate the roster in Melee. You don't play Falco the same as Fox, or Roy the same Marth. I concede that Roy and Pichu are ass though, but Doc, Ganon, Falco and Young Link are pretty cool.

It's like the same reasons why I prefer Akuma over Ryu or Evil Ryu. E.Ryu is closer though.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Dr. Mario is sort of a missed opportunity in a sense that he could of wielded all sorts of doctor equipment with concepts like inflicting status to gain an edge over his opponent. It's pretty much the only option for that sort of character in Super Smash Bros., the next best thing would be the nurse from Kid Icarus.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

Regardless, Dr. Mario was planned to return to Brawl as his own separate character. If he is going to be in Smash 4, he will be in as a separate playable character and not as a costume. That is all.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Wasn't Samus significantly better in Melee than Brawl too? Or were you just talking about clones?

To be honest, I just don't get the hate for clones. Different attributions can be enough to drastically change the character.

What I was trying to say there, giving them different moves doesn't mean they'll be better. In Melee, Falco was a very versatile character with so many options, but in Brawl he was pretty much limited to poking and keeping away with lazers. I think Brawl Falco is fine, but compared to Melee Falco he's just not as fun.

And we all know how Ganondorf turned out.

 

[Knight Dude]

Dr. Mario is sort of a missed opportunity in a sense that he could of wielded all sorts of doctor equipment with concepts like inflicting status to gain an edge over his opponent. It's pretty much the only option for that sort of character in Super Smash Bros., the next best thing would be the nurse from Kid Icarus.

Imagine he if he has a giant needle for some moves.

To be honest, I just don't get the hate for clones. Different attribution can be enough to drastically change the character.

What I was trying to say there, giving them different moves doesn't mean they'll be better. In Melee, Falco was a very versatile character with so many options, but in Brawl he was pretty much limited to poking and keeping away with lazers. I think Brawl Falco is fine, but compared to Melee Falco he's just not as fun.

And we all know how Ganondorf turned out.

It's really based on how well the original characters are balanced. Still, I'm not the biggest clone hater either. Which is sort of why I'm not opposed to the idea of having Doc Mario coming back. I liked both versions of Mario. But I prefer Fox from Falco. Ganon could use some buffs, but he's still a fun character to use.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Dr. Mario is sort of a missed opportunity in a sense that he could of wielded all sorts of doctor equipment with concepts like inflicting status to gain an edge over his opponent. It's pretty much the only option for that sort of character in Super Smash Bros., the next best thing would be the nurse from Kid Icarus.

Blame time constraints.

I hope that Dr. Mario and Dr. Luigi are costumes.

I think we will just Dr. Mario as a possible costume.

 

[PlasmaPuffball]

I honestly didn't mind clones that much. My only problem with Melee's clones was Pichu...cuz why? Not only was he completely unecessary, he was significantly worse than Pikachu to the point that I think he was considered the worst character. I actually liked how Doc was compared to Mario, and I liked Young Link significantly more than Link, mainly cuz of his bombs. I didn't play much Roy cuz I didn't like Fire Emblem at the time, but he was more fun than Marth, to me at least. I didn't play Ganon cuz I just thought it was weird that he was made a clone of a character that already had a moveset made out of thin air.

Edit: In short, I don't mind clones, they do have different playstyles than their counterparts and even though the moves are the "same", the attributes are different enough to be their own character and make you play differently than you would if you were to play with their counterpart.

 

[Pazzo.]

Pichu and Dr. Mario really irked me in Melee.

I mean, there's two slots completely wasted... I'm not saying Doc was a bad character, but Doc's good qualities should have just been combined with Mario.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

I agree with Golden about Dr.Mario.

If Dr. Mario wasn't his own character in Melee, then I'd certainly approve of the idea of a costume, but... It's just this silly stance of mine that goes "once a Smasher, always a Smasher", so reducing a character to a costume wouldn't bode well with me, even if they are different forms/professions of the same person...

If Dr. Mario did come back as a costume (which seems like the more likely scenario as I doubt the Melee clones will return for SSB4), I would be somewhat happy for Sakurai trying the best he can to "include" a Melee clone in, but I'd still be sad over the loss of a full character and the loss of Dr. Mario's attributes, like the reverse sex kick.

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[Spinosaurus]

Reverse sex kick was so fun with Doc.

It's just so satisfying to actually hit with the strong version of it. Too bad only Doc has it, or maybe that's a good thing.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

Dumb question: If Doc is so much better than Mario, why don't they just give Mario Doc's attributes, sans the pills?

 

[Spinosaurus]

Dumb question: If Doc is so much better than Mario, why don't they just give Mario Doc's attributes, sans the pills?

He's not MUCH better. I'd say he is better, but not by a big margin. Anyway, it's preferences really. Mario is combo heavy, but Doc is a powerhouse who can kill quick if he get the hit.

Also I think Doc is a bit weird for him to be a standard character. Reverse sex kick aside, his recovery is ass and he also has pretty short range and more lag on his aerials. Mario is pretty balanced aside from his lack of KO power.

 

[Will]

I wonder what would happen if realism was put into effect if you got hit by too many pills.

Instant K.O. from overdose? Don't take drugs,kids!

 

[Joe D.]

So let's play a game.

Let's say that the roster for the next installment was going to be incredibly big, and you were put in charge of the character roster. You would have to give every single franchise 4 more characters, (if possible.) Who would you pick?

 

[BluePikmin11]

So let's play a game.

Let's say that the roster for the next installment was going to be incredibly big, and you were put in charge of the character roster. You would have to give every single franchise 4 more characters, (if possible.) Who would you pick?

Tom Nook, Prince Richard, FE-flavor of the month, Pokemon-flavor of the month, and King Hippo.

 

[Joe D.]

Tom Nook, Prince Richard, FE-flavor of the month, Pokemon-flavor of the month, and King Hippo.

Every single franchise has to get 4 more Blue!

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

So let's play a game.

Let's say that the roster for the next installment was going to be incredibly big, and you were put in charge of the character roster. You would have to give every single franchise 4 more characters, (if possible.) Who would you pick?

Holy balls, I don't think I can do that. Especially with the likes of Game & Watch, Ice Climber, and R.O.B.

I'll try a couple franchises, why not.

Metroid: Ridley, Weavel, Sylux, Dark Samus

Legend of Zelda: Pig Ganon, Vaati, Majora, Ghirahim

Super Mario Bros: Paper Mario, Waluigi, Geno, Fawful

MOTHER: Porky, Jeff, Duster, Claus

F-Zero: Black Shadow, Samurai Goroh, Deathborn, Jody Summers

 

[Deleted member]

Well let's get @LancerStaff over here then.
...I'm here.

.....

That's what I get for not noticing that who I made the reply to initially was not the same user who replied to my reply.

Jokes aside, I doubt they'd port over and make new animations for an incredibly minor thing like one Pokeball 'mon nobody would miss. Only one character uses it, and it'd be almost entirely redundant without the character to use it, AKA Jigglypuff. It has it's own animation now which is 100% confirmed to be in SSB4. So, sleep effect + it's own unique animation = Jigglypuff in my book.

The Hands put opponents to sleep in the beginning of their Applause attack.
Peach's Final Smash puts opponents to sleep (yes, it's currently unconfirmed if she has the same FS as before, however unlike Luigi she hasn't been seen with a new one yet).
Togepi puts opponents to sleep occasionally through Metronome.
New addition Darkrai uses Dark Void to put opponents to sleep.
New addition Ashley uses a magic spell that does random effects on opponents; it is believed that putting them to sleep is one of those effects.

Aside from that, you appear to miss this detail:

sleep has been given reverse properties to stun (sleep lasts longer the more damage a character has, while higher damage makes it easier to snap out of stun), making sleep less redundant.

It's a rare status like Paralysis, Freezing, Bury, and Slip, but its not redundant without Jigglypuff.

Also, crawling was implemented in Brawl practically because of Snake. With crawling returning for Smash 4, does that automatically mean Snake's all but confirmed?

Give Dr. Mario a giant scalpel and a bag over his head.

Problem solved.

So...Dr. Waluigi?

I can sort of see your point. Though I think why people are slightly more accepting to Toon Link, is that he's a different size, and he's one of the more prominent incarnations of the character. Having said that, he's still gets his fair share of backlash too. I think more people would be accepting of Dr.Mario if he ever gets some new moves.

I rarely see backlash over Toon Link except from people that just dislike any kind of clone whatsoever. If it's true though, then I feel a little better about the situation.

 

[mini paincakes]

So let's play a game.

Let's say that the roster for the next installment was going to be incredibly big, and you were put in charge of the character roster. You would have to give every single franchise 4 more characters, (if possible.) Who would you pick?

Mario: Bowser jr. , Paper Mario, Toad, King Boo

Donkey Kong: K. Rool, Dixie, Cranky, Funky

Yoshi: Kamek, Birdo, Boshi, Baby Mario

Wario: Ashley, Mona, Jimmy T, Syrup

Zelda: Tingle, Vaati, Ghirahim, Onox

Pokemon: Mewtwo, Gengar, Scizor, Aegislash

Metroid: Ridley, Kraid, Sylux, Anthony Higgs

Kid Icarus: Paletuna, Hades, Medusa, Magnus

Kirby: Waddle Dee, Prince Fluff, Gordo, Galacta Knight


Gyromite: The Doctor Guy

G&W: Octopus

Ice Climbers: Polar Bear, FIsh, Condor

Pikmin: Plasm Wraith, Bulborb, blowhog, Dweevil

Star Fox: Fox's Dad, Slippy, Peppy, Rob 64

Fire Emblem: Anna, Robin, Chrom, Lucina

Mother: Jeff, Masked Man, Porkey, Starman

Punch Out!!!: Mike Tyson, Hippo, Mr. Dream, Aran Ryan

Mega Man: Protoman, Wiley, Elecman, Zero

Metal Gear: Raiden, Colonel, Otacon, Psycho Mantis

Sonic: Bluckles, Blails, Shadow, Big

F-Zero: Black Shadow, Goroh, Red Falcon, Fox's Dad

Animal Crossing: Tom Nook, Kapp'n, KK, Isabell

Wii Fit: Wii Fit Balance Board

It was hard to think of four characters for each series, especially since most of these won't even be assist trophies.

 

[Rebellious Treecko]

So let's play a game.

Let's say that the roster for the next installment was going to be incredibly big, and you were put in charge of the character roster. You would have to give every single franchise 4 more characters, (if possible.) Who would you pick?

Here are some.

Mario:
Toad
Bowser Jr.
Dr. Mario
Possibly Paper Mario or Fawful (assuming they don't have their own series symbols)

Yoshi:
Baby Mario Bros.
Kamek
Baby Bowser
???

DK:
K.Rool
Dixie
???
???

Wario:
Captain Syrup
??? A Wario Land character. Maybe Rudy, Shokora, or the Shake King?
Mona or Ashley
Waluigi

Zelda:
Young Link
Classic Ganon
Tingle (if he didn't have his own series symbol)
???

Pokemon:
Mewtwo
Pichu
Sceptile (or the Grovyle from PMD2 if he didn't have his own series symbol)
???

Fire Emblem:
Medeus
Roy
Anna
Chrom and/or Robin

Metroid:
Ridley
Dark Samus
Sylux
???

Mother:
Porky/Pokey
Claus (as the masked man)
Ninten
Giegue/Giygas

F-Zero:
Goroh
Black Shadow
Deathborn
??? Maybe Jody, Pico, or Dr. Stewart

Pikmin:
Louie
Emperor Bulblax
Titan Dweevil
Plasm Wraith or The President

Metal Gear:
Big Boss
Ocelot
Raiden
The Boss

Sonic:
Tails
Knuckles
Shadow or Silver
Eggman/Robotnik

 

[Pacack]

So let's play a game.

Let's say that the roster for the next installment was going to be incredibly big, and you were put in charge of the character roster. You would have to give every single franchise 4 more characters, (if possible.) Who would you pick?

Mario: Toad, Bowser Jr., Paper Mario, and Professor E. Gadd
Yoshi: Kamek
Donkey Kong: (assuming King K. Rool gets in this time) Dixie Kong and Cranky Kong
Wario: Waluigi, Mona, Ashley, and Jimmy T..
Legend of Zelda: Ganon, Impa, Tingle, and Vaati
Nazo no Murasame jo: Murasame and an original character from the reboot
Metroid: Ridley, Adam, Dark Samus, and Sylux
Kid Icarus: (assuming Palutena's in this time) Medusa, Hades, Viridi, and Dark Pit
Kirby: Bandana Dee, Prince Fluff, Gooey, and Knuckle Joe
Star Fox: Krystal, Slippy, Peppy, and humanoid Andross
F-Zero: Black Shadow, Samurai Goroh, Jody Summer, and Pico.
Pokemon: (assuming Mewtwo and Jigglypuff return) Deoxys, Flavor of the Month, Ivysaur, and Squirtle
Fire Emblem: Anna, Tactician/Micaiah, Lyn, and Roy
Earthbound/Mother: Giegue/Giygas, Porky, and Ninten
Animal Crossing: Tom Nook, Isabelle, Mr. Resetti, K. K. Slider
Pikmin: Plasm Wraith, Louie, the President, and Alph
Extended Wii series: (assuming Miis are in) Wii Balance Board, and Party Phil.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

So let's play a game.

Let's say that the roster for the next installment was going to be incredibly big, and you were put in charge of the character roster. You would have to give every single franchise 4 more characters, (if possible.) Who would you pick?

Here's what I can think of at the moment

Mario
Mario, Luigi, Peach, Bowser

Sonic
Sonic, Tails, Amy, Shadow

Pokemon
Pikachu, Mewtwo, Lucario, Charizard

Zelda
Link, Zelda, Ganondorf, Toon Link

StarFox
Fox, Krystal, Falco, Wolf

Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong, Diddy Kong, Dixie Kong, King K Rool

Yoshi
Yoshi, Birdo, Kamek, Baby Bowser

Metroid
Samus, Zero Suit Samus, Ridley, Dark Samus

MegaMan
MegaMan, Proto Man, Bass, (insert another one here)

Fire Emblem
Marth, Chrom, Ike, Micaiah

WarioWare
Wario, Mona, 9-Volt, Waluigi

Kid Icarus
Pit, Palutena, Magnus, Medusa

Kirby
Kirby, King DeDeDe, Galacta Knight, Meta Knight

 

[TylerBlackRunIt]

How's this for a roster? 48 characters.

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Replace Dixie Kong with King K Rool.

 

[Second Power]

So let's play a game.

Let's say that the roster for the next installment was going to be incredibly big, and you were put in charge of the character roster. You would have to give every single franchise 4 more characters, (if possible.) Who would you pick?

Mario: Toad, King Boo, Bowser Jr., Dry Bones
Yoshi: Shy Guy, Kamek
LoZ: Ganon, Vaati, Tetra, Impa
Pokemon: Mewtwo, Sceptile, Scizor, Zoroark
Kirby: Bandanna Dee, Galacta Knight, Marx, Knuckle Joe
Donkey Kong: K. Rool, Dixie, Funky Kong, Cranky Kong
Wario: Mona, Ashley, Jimmy T., Captain Syrup
Fire Emblem: Robin, Micaiah, Lyn, Leif
Mother: Poo, Masked Man, Ninten, Teddy
Star Fox: -Wolf or Falco
Metroid: Ridley, Dark Samus, Sylux, another hunter
Kid Icarus: Palutena, Medusa, Hades, Viridi
Animal Crossing: Tom Nook, K.K. Slider
Ice Climbers: Polar Bear
Punch Out: King Hippo, three other guys
Mega-man: Zero, Megaman.EXE, Aile/Ashe, Bass

Very tempted to do this in the roster maker...

 

[The Light Music Club]

Mario: Bowser jr. , Paper Mario, Jr. Troopa, Koops

Donkey Kong: K. Rool, Tiktok (He counts right?), Cranky, Funky

Yoshi: Kamek, Birdo, Bandit, Baby Bros.

Wario: Ashley, Mona, Jimmy T, Pizza Dinosaur Boys

Zelda: Masked Link, Mask Salesman, Skull Kid, Goron

Pokemon: Mewtwo, Nidoking, Nidoqueen, Kangaskhan (probably spelled that wrong)

Metroid: Ridley

Kid Icarus: Paletuna, Hades, Viridi, Amazon Pandora

Kirby: Waddle Dee

Ice Climbers: Polar Bear, Condor

Pikmin: Abstain

Star Fox: James, Slippy, Peppy, Leon

Fire Emblem: Micaiah, Elincia, Ilyana, Mia

Mother: Poo, Masked Man, Porkey, Starman

Punch Out!!!: Mike Tyson, Hippo, Mr. Dream, Glass Joe

Mega Man: Abstain

Metal Gear: Abstain

Sonic: Vector, Tails, Knuckles, Robo-Chao

F-Zero: Pico, Octoman, Mr. EAD, Samurai Goroh

Animal Crossing: Tom Nook, KK

Wii Fit: Abstain

 

[Spinosaurus]

Punch Out:
Lil Mac (standard in-fighting boxing character. Nothing special or specific. Specializes in staying in the opponent's face to maintain pressure.)
Don Flamenco (Out-boxer, counter-boxer. Specializes in spacing and footwork with range and speed to rack up damage to deliver the KO counter punch. However he's frail and can't take hits very well, nor does he hit very well himself.)
Mr. Sandman (Heavyweight boxer. A more brawler type who doesn't hit much but his hits are devastating. A bit slow in his feet but his punches are quick and powerful. Because these types of boxers have great chins, he can have super armor. He also gets a special stance called the Hitman Style - this can give him more range at the expense of defensive capabilities. )
Aran Ryan (A wild, brawler unorthodox boxer. More of a dirty trickster than a proper boxer. His unorthodox style makes him very unpredictable and dangerous, but once you figure him out his wild punches can easily be punished.)

Just punching? Nah.

 

[wafflini]

How would people feel if Sakurai added Ridley but made him about the size of Kirby and a lightweight?

 

[Morbi]

How would people feel if Sakurai added Ridley but made him about the size of Kirby and a lightweight?

I would not necessarily mind; it would be hypocritical to assert that his size is irrelevant, but then complain about his size.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

How would people feel if Sakurai added Ridley but made him about the size of Kirby and a lightweight?

"Ah, so THIS is Mini-Ridley. I was wondering whether Kraid was the only Space Pirate commander with shrunken body doubles."

 

[TeenGirlSquad]

So let's play a game.

Let's say that the roster for the next installment was going to be incredibly big, and you were put in charge of the character roster. You would have to give every single franchise 4 more characters, (if possible.) Who would you pick?

Super Mario Bros.: Toad; Bowser Jr.; Paper Mario; Vivian
Donkey Kong: King K. Rool; Dixie Kong; Cranky Kong; Funky Kong
Yoshi's Island: Kamek; Shy Guy; Birdo (does she count?); Raphael Raven
WarioWare: Mona; Jimmy T.; 9-Volt & 18-Volt (Duo); Ashley (& Red?)
The Legend of Zelda: Ganon; Impa; Midna; Skull Kid
Metroid: Ridley; Rundas; Gandrayda; Sylux
Kirby Super Star: Bandana Dee; Ribbon; Rick; Chef Kawashima
Star Fox: Krystal; Slippy Toad; Peppy Hare; Leon Powalski
Pokemon: Meowth; Gardevoir; Whimsicott; Goodra
F-Zero: Samurai Goroh; Black Shadow; Dr. Stewart; Jody Summer
Mother: Porky Minch; Kumatora; Duster; The Masked Man
Ice Climber: Condor; Polar Bear; Topi; Nitpicker (Condor Clone?)
Fire Emblem: Anna; Lucina; Tiki; Dragon Tiki (Transformation)
Kid Icarus: Palutena; Medusa; Viridi; Hades
Pikmin: Louie; The President; Alph; Brittany
Animal Crossing: Tom Nook; K.K. Slider; Mr. Resetti; Isabelle
Punch-Out!!: King Hippo; Glass Joe; Bear Hugger; Mr. Sandman
Wii Sports / Wii Fit: Mii; Wii Balance Board; Frisbee Dog; Fit Meter
Game & Watch: Mickey Mouse; Donald Duck; Popeye; Snoopy
Robot Series: Professor Hector; Professor Vector; Spike; Smick
Metal Gear: Raiden; Gray Fox; Psycho Mantis; Big Boss
Sonic the Hedgehog: Dr. Eggman; Tails; Knuckles; Amy Rose
Mega Man: Zero; Proto Man; Roll; Dr. Wily

 

[AustarusIV]

How would people feel if Sakurai added Ridley but made him about the size of Kirby and a lightweight?

I wouldn't care. The Smash Bros. series is essentially a non-canon fighting series where nothing stays true to scale. I'm pretty sure most people would liken that Ridley to the fake Kraid seen in Super Metroid.

 

[RouffWestie]

Spoiler

Mario:
Paper Mario
Dreamy Luigi
Wart
Toad

Yoshi:
Yarn Yoshi
Baby Bowser
Kamek
Shy Guys

DK:
Cranky Kong
Dixie Kong
Funky Kong
K. Rool

Pokemon:
Wes
Nidoking
Wigglytuff
Grovyle

Wario:
Mona
9-Volt
Jimmy T.
Young Cricket (possibly teamed with Master Mantis)

Zelda:
Vaati
Tetra
True Ganon
Goddess Trio

Kirby:
Mass Attack Kirbies
Bandana Dee
Drawcia
Prince Fluff

Star Fox:
Slippy
Krystal
Peppy
Marcus?

Metroid:
Ridley
Dark Samus
Anthony Higgs
Meta Ridley?

Mother:
Paula
Jeff
Poo
Porky

Sonic:
Tails
Knuckles
Eggman
Amy

Animal Crossing:
Tom Nook
Mable and Sable
K.K. Slider
Isabelle

Mega Man:
Bass
Proto Man
Zero
Roll

It was bigger than I thought it would be

 

[Swamp Sensei]

""I am starting to think that the newcomers we have now are it.

I mean, its understandable that maybe Sal's tipper got possible E3 scenarios the first time and got more later on.

But where would he have gotten this from?

"Pokemon from X and Y" would imply that the tipper found some planning documents. I'd imagine, that these would have every newcomer in the game. Or at least, every planned newcomer.

Point is.... I find it odd that the leaker would get incomplete info from this point on. I also find it odd that the leaker would withhold info at this point.

So, yeah... I think only Mewtwo and other vets have a shot now."

Here's my post from the Sal thread.

I'd like to see some discussions on this.

Assuming the Sal leak is true of course.

Now, I don't want to hear SAL LEAK FAKE HURP DURP!

I want your opinion on that in the hypothetical situation that the Sal leak is true, does this logic make sense?

 

[False Sense]

""I am starting to think that the newcomers we have now are it.

I mean, its understandable that maybe Sal's tipper got possible E3 scenarios the first time and got more later on.

But where would he have gotten this from?

"Pokemon from X and Y" would imply that the tipper found some planning documents. I'd imagine, that these would have every newcomer in the game. Or at least, every planned newcomer.

Point is.... I find it odd that the leaker would get incomplete info from this point on. I also find it odd that the leaker would withhold info at this point.

So, yeah... I think only Mewtwo and other vets have a shot now."

Here's my post from the Sal thread.

I'd like to see some discussions on this.

Assuming the Sal leak is true of course.

Now, I don't want to hear SAL LEAK FAKE HURP DURP!

I want your opinion on that in the hypothetical situation that the Sal leak is true, does this logic make sense?

My question would be why did he withhold any information to begin with. He already did it once, so who's to say he wouldn't do it again, for whatever reason?

I don't believe the leak, though...

 

[Swamp Sensei]

My question would be why did he withhold any information to begin with. He already did it once, so who's to say he wouldn't do it again, for whatever reason?

I don't believe the leak, though...

Its possible he only got info for potential E3 plans.

 

[False Sense]

Its possible he only got info for potential E3 plans.

So then how did he find out about other characters? Assuming that he only got E3 plans would throw every other prediction of his into question, and I don't think that's where you want this discussion to go, is it?