Character Discussion Thread

[Deleted member]

We've been discussing these lately, they look pretty legit:

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My gut feeling tells me this is fake due to lock spaces greatly out weighing the characters, but given the fact that the game is still in development and they most likely haven't implemented the final layout, this looks pretty legit.

 

[BluePikmin11]

Couldn't someone easily replicate that?

And, if that were real, why are the majority of characters secret? And why are there so many?

My theory is that it could probably be the actual SSB4 demo leak roster based on how few characters there are.

 

[Kenith]

There are quite a few discrepancies, which comforts me, as based on how it's laid out, there's no room for Ghirahim.

 

[MagnesD3]

Plz be real a 53 character roster would be amazing!!! Also there are holes for ridley, k. rool, krystal, snake and even roy possibly if this roster is shown at e3 I will ****.

 

[Sebz]

There are quite a few discrepancies, which comforts me, as based on how it's laid out, there's no room for Ghirahim.

Except that there aren't. People on 4chan are trying to disprove it, but it IS consistent.

 

[Sobreviviente]

I would hate hidden characters like that, is more fun when the only clue for secret characters i just an empty space on screen.

And i have the feeling that sakurai will hates it too, so yeah, fake.

 

[Kenith]

I'm working on an analysis on this roster right now, it'll be done shortly.

edit: There's not even a way to fit this roster in the Roster Maker!

 

[BluePikmin11]

Plz be real a 53 character roster would be amazing!!! Also there are holes for ridley, k. rool, krystal, snake and even roy possibly if this roster is shown at e3 I will ****.

From the looks of it, it looks like a 50 character roster, there's a reddish slot on the bottom right corner slot.

 

[Morbi]

Except that there aren't. People on 4chan are trying to disprove it, but it IS consistent.

Wat? There are a ton of inconsistencies.

 

[PlasmaPuffball]

I have a few problems with that leak:

1. Megaman isn't playable. Why would the most requested character not be playable for E3? Especially since Sakurai played him last year at E3 against Mario.
2. Why isn't Bowser playable? Sure, it's a demo, but Bowser was one of the first characters for Smash 4 to be shown off with his new design. I'm sure if most recently annouced characters like Yoshi is playable, Bowser definitely should be.
3. I really doubt Nintendo/Sakurai would let everyone know how many playable characters are in the game exactly. The locks would give that away easily.
4. The format of the demo is completely different from the Brawl one. To not let people know how many characters are in the game, they just had a really small Character Select screen with a few characters. Not a bunch of locks making it obvious which series are getting more characters or not.
5. Marth is selected in the Character Select Screen. So why is he translucent? Wouldn't selected characters be solid/opaque if they're selected, like in every other Smash game, and translucent if they're just being hovered over?

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

From the looks of it, it looks like a 50 character roster, there's a reddish slot on the bottom right corner slot.

And how that's 2 slots away from Sonic, that's kinda weird, we're not getting another Sonic character, so what's up with that?

 

[Sebz]

Wat? There are a ton of inconsistencies.

Such as?

 

[BluePikmin11]

Hey look another one just popped up, again:

Y equals Ridley?

 

[Morbi]

Such as?

I have a few problems with that leak:

1. Megaman isn't playable. Why would the most requested character not be playable for E3? Especially since Sakurai played him last year at E3 against Mario.
2. Why isn't Bowser playable? Sure, it's a demo, but Bowser was one of the first characters for Smash 4 to be shown off with his new design. I'm sure if most recently annouced characters like Yoshi is playable, Bowser definitely should be.
3. I really doubt Nintendo/Sakurai would let everyone know how many playable characters are in the game exactly. The locks would give that away easily.
4. The format of the demo is completely different from the Brawl one. To not let people know how many characters are in the game, they just had a really small Character Select screen with a few characters. Not a bunch of locks making it obvious which series are getting more characters or not.
5. Marth is selected in the Character Select Screen. So why is he translucent? Wouldn't selected characters be solid/opaque if they're selected, like in every other Smash game, and translucent if they're just being hovered over?

Here. If you want more, go to the thread dedicated to this discussion. The Bandanna Dee thread also found some other more circumstantial inconsistencies.

 

[Pacack]

Always assume a leak is fake unless it has something backing it up, guys. This would be relatively easy to make.

 

[MagnesD3]

I like how ridley is highlighted on the character select screen.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Here. If you want more, go to the thread dedicated to this discussion. The Bandanna Dee thread also found some other more circumstantial inconsistencies.

And the K.Rool thread! Few things I noticed.

 

[Morbi]

And the K.Rool thread! Few things I noticed.

Probably every other thread. This was more (blatantly) fake than the "OneFinalSmash" leak.

 

[False Sense]

Always assume a leak is fake unless it has something backing it up, guys. This would be relatively easy to make.

I agree. Aside from looking nice, there is nothing to suggest that this is any more than a well put together fake. It's just some of the veterans revealed placed in a menu format. I don't see anything that convinces me that it's real.

EDIT: Actually, I just noticed something. In that second picture, the P1 cursor is over Marth's picture. Yet Marth is shown in the Player 2 slot. That's inconsistent. I think this is fake.

 

[Kenith]

I have evidence on why it's fake, but I'm assuming it's real just because it has no space for my most wanted character and I want to get my hopes down in time for E3.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

My gut feeling tells me this is fake due to lock spaces greatly out weighing the characters, but given the fact that the game is still in development and they most likely haven't implemented the final layout, this looks pretty legit.

I'm leaning to it being legit, for the following reasons:

1. It's a bold move to put locks on the unlockable characters (back then you can't see the slots for the unlockable characters which make this quite the bold move) , and if you ask me no faker would do such a move, making a fake is all about making the expected, that's why the more believed rumours are the ones that has Ike being cut for Chrome, R.O.B,Wolf and snake forgone. (which the expected by many fans)
2. The UI matches the UI we've seen in the direct which is another plus to this supposed leak.
3. The number is too big which another things we as a fan not seeing likely, that's a huge risk to do.
4. And Finally TBH, I don't see why they wont show the unlockable characters as locks, it's brag worthy, I think Sakurai wants to brag of making this feat. of fitting 51 character in both the Wii U and the 3DS.

 

[Morbi]

I'm leaning to it being legit, for the following reasons:

1. It's a bold move to put locks on the unlockable characters (back then you can't see the slots for the unlockable characters which make this quite the bold move) , and if you ask me no faker would do such a move, making a fake is all about making the expected, that's why the more believed rumours that has Ike being cut for Chrome, R.O.B,Wolf and snake forgone. (which the expected by many fans)
2. The UI matches the UI we've seen in the direct which is another plus to this supposed leak.
3. The number is too big which another things we as a fan not seeing likely, that's a huge risk to do.
4. And Finally TBH, I don't see why they wont show the unlockable characters as locks, it's brag worthy, I think Sakurai wants to brag of making this feat. of fitting 51 character in both the Wii U and the 3DS.

So you believe that the leak is more plausible... because it doesn't adhere to what most people have determined as reasonable?

 

[False Sense]

So you believe that the leak is more plausible... because it doesn't adhere to what most people have determined as reasonable?

I believe it's a similar mentality people have about the Gematsu leak and Chorus Men; it's so incredibly random and out there that it has to be real.

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

I agree. Aside from looking nice, there is nothing to suggest that this is any more than a well put together fake. It's just some of the veterans revealed placed in a menu format. I don't see anything that convinces me that it's real.

EDIT: Actually, I just noticed something. In that second picture, the P1 cursor is over Marth's picture. Yet Marth is shown in the Player 2 slot. That's inconsistent. I think this is fake.

Not really, Marth is still on the P1 slot but the number you are seeing on the slot is 3 not 2, and you can see it on the other slots, it might the stock count or the minutes they are playing.

 

[False Sense]

Ok, new question; why are there two player three spots?

This thing is fake...

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

So you believe that the leak is more plausible... because it doesn't adhere to what most people have determined as reasonable?

Will, it's either totally legit or brilliantly faked, to me this is another Palutena!

 

[Deleted member]

I'm leaning to it being legit, for the following reasons:

1. It's a bold move to put locks on the unlockable characters (back then you can't see the slots for the unlockable characters which make this quite the bold move) , and if you ask me no faker would do such a move, making a fake is all about making the expected, that's why the more believed rumours are the ones that has Ike being cut for Chrome, R.O.B,Wolf and snake forgone. (which the expected by many fans)
2. The UI matches the UI we've seen in the direct which is another plus to this supposed leak.
3. The number is too big which another things we as a fan not seeing likely, that's a huge risk to do.
4. And Finally TBH, I don't see why they wont show the unlockable characters as locks, it's brag worthy, I think Sakurai wants to brag of making this feat. of fitting 51 character in both the Wii U and the 3DS.

I'm going to have to agree with you. Plus for another juicy screenshot that shows what is likely Ridley, you can head over to the general rumor and leak thread here.

 

[MagnesD3]

I agree. Aside from looking nice, there is nothing to suggest that this is any more than a well put together fake. It's just some of the veterans revealed placed in a menu format. I don't see anything that convinces me that it's real.

EDIT: Actually, I just noticed something. In that second picture, the P1 cursor is over Marth's picture. Yet Marth is shown in the Player 2 slot. That's inconsistent. I think this is fake.

dang your right about the p1 thing, hype deflated.

Edit: NEVERMIND, Hype still in place its just the cpu difficulty thing.

 

[Morbi]

Will, it's either totally legit or brilliantly faked, to me this is another Palutena!

The difference being that no one could discern so many overt discrepancies in the Palutena leak for days/weeks/months. The other difference being that the Palutena leaked a new model, it didn't use preexisting images. But other than that? Sure.

 

[kikaru]

Ok, new question; why are there two player three spots?

This thing is fake...

CPU levels?

 

[False Sense]

Will, it's either totally legit or brilliantly faked, to me this is another Palutena!

There are two player three spots.

To say this is the next Palutena is rather hasty, don't you think?

 

[Morbi]

There are two player three spots.

To say this is the next Palutena is rather hasty, don't you think?

Where is the obligatory "it is from the internet, it must be true" picture when you need it?

 

[LightningVance]

Ok, new question; why are there two player three spots?

This thing is fake...

Because the 3 represents the computer's difficulty level not which player slot it is?

 

[xXIke-SamaXx]

Not really, Marth is still on the P1 slot but the number you are seeing on the slot is 3 not 2, and you can see it on the other slots, it might the stock count or the minutes they are playing.

False you need to look at that again.

The difference being that no one could discern so many overt discrepancies in the Palutena leak for days/weeks/months. The other difference being that the Palutena leaked a new model, it didn't use preexisting images. But other than that? Sure.

I agree with you on that, but the thing is, I'm talking here on how flawless it's.

 

[Morbi]

Because the 3 represents the computer's difficulty level not which player slot it is?

Do you have any proof for that baseless assertion? Or are you merely speculating?

 

[Starcutter]

CPU levels?

... that would make sense actually.


If this thing is real it leaves room for another Yoshi character or wario so I like it.

 

[False Sense]

Because the 3 represents the computer's difficulty level not which player slot it is?

Doesn't there have to be an actual CPU character in that slot for there to be a level for them?

 

[Richard Nixon]

The third screenshot seems to obviously be suggesting Ridley - but, if that's the case, why is Ridley of all characters playable here while characters like Megaman and Bowser aren't? If anyone'd be unlockable it's Ridley.

EDIT: Whoops, Megaman's mysteriously in the third image despite not being in the first two. Still though, point stands in that there's several characters oddly locked and it's weird Ridley wouldn't be among them.

 

[Will]

Hey look another one just popped up, again:

Y equals Ridley?

That one third party slot unlockable....

Pac-Man? Is that you?

EDIT : I saw someone call you Blue,which reminds me of Gary from Pokemon. I'm going to call you Gary now.

 

[LightningVance]

Doesn't there have to be an actual CPU character in that slot for there to be a level for them?

Not if it's set to random..?
And "Baseless assertion" not really cause the default level of difficulty for computers is 3 and the character selection colour is grey...