Character Discussion Thread

[Morbi]

Can we talk about which characters we think won't be revealed prior to the release of the 3ds version?
I feel like G&W, ROB, Lucas, and the space animals won't be revealed until after the launch of the game.

I feel as though one space animal (Falco) would be revealed prior to launch. Other than that, I agree with earlier assertions (Captain Falcon, Jigglypuff and Ness are probably being saved).

 

[Will]

@TheUnsullied (too lazy to reply.) The unlockable characters were confirmed for the game after it's release. Some of the characters probably won't be mentioned until after the game's release.

EDIT : However,some of the revealed characters may be already planned to be unlockable. They did this in Brawl as well,Marth and Ness being in the intro,and Snake and Sonic being confirmed,but unlockable.

 

[praline]

I noticed for each game a newcomer doesn't have a home stage... I wonder if the same will happen for SM4SH.

Ness and Captain Falcon for 64, Marth and Roy for Melee, and R.O.B. for Brawl.

 

[True Blue Warrior]

I noticed for each game a newcomer doesn't have a home stage... I wonder if the same will happen for SM4SH.

Ness and Captain Falcon for 64, Marth and Roy for Melee, and R.O.B. for Brawl.

Interesting. Who could have that kind of thing happening to them in this game?

 

[Morbi]

I noticed for each game a newcomer doesn't have a home stage... I wonder if the same will happen for SM4SH.

Ness and Captain Falcon for 64, Marth and Roy for Melee, and R.O.B. for Brawl.

I can't imagine a home-stage for Greninja unless "anything" from Pokemon X and Y applies.

 

[Spinosaurus]

While we're on the topic, should be expect Wario for May 30?

I can't say it's impossible since Toon Link and Sonic were revealed only 5 days apart.

Peach was a week before TLink as well. And there's Lil Mac and Diddy.
Maybe I'm being too hopeful. I NEED Wario lol.

 

[andimidna]

But you also said he wasn't getting in.

Actually, looking back, I don't think that was said.

So now that we're trying to change the subject away from Zelda newcomers...

Spoiler

Let's talk about MORE Zelda newcomers!

Shia/Cia jiggles on to the battlefield!
Would be a great replacement for Jiggly's puffs, right?

But seriously, if you guys aren't sick of talking about 'em, what do you guys rank all possible Zelda characters?
I honestly think:

Ghirahim - 42%
Impa - 8%
Tingle and Tetra - 7%
Ganon - 5.5%
ALBW Lorule (all 3) - 2.6%
Vaati - 2.5%
Toon Zelda - 0.9%
Demise - 0.5%
Zant - 0.1%
Happy Mask Salesman - 0.01%
Groose - 0.001%
ST/PH character - 0.0001%
Toon Ganondorf - 0.00001%
Shia/Cia - 0.00000000000000001%
Midna, Skull Kid, Twinrova, and everybody else - 0%

How do you guys rank them? Probably much less one-sided than I do, thinking Ghirahim is the only Zelda character with a notable chance is an unpopular opinion of mine.

And my want for them would be:

Midna - 1000000%
Ghirahim - 10000%
Shia/Cia - 100%
Zant - 99.9%
Skull Kid - 97.5%
Vaati - 95.5%
Twinrova - 93.5%
Impa - 92%
Alfonzo - 90%
Yuga - 85%
Happy Mask Salesman - 75%
Ravio and Hilda - 70%
Ganon - 66%
Groose - 60%
Byrne - 58%
Chancellor Cole - 55%
Linebeck - 51%
Tetra - 15% (love the character a lot... but, for some reason, I don't want to play as her in Smash)
Toon Ganondorf - 5.1%
Toon Zelda - 0.001%
Tingle - 0% Sorry

 

[praline]

Interesting. Who could have that kind of thing happening to them in this game?

Well if the Gematsu/Sal Romano rumour is legit then Chorus Men is probably the one. I could see Shulk or Isaac if they got in.

 

[FalKoopa]

I noticed for each game a newcomer doesn't have a home stage... I wonder if the same will happen for SM4SH.

Ness and Captain Falcon for 64, Marth and Roy for Melee, and R.O.B. for Brawl.

All newcomers this time seem to have a home stage, which was shown off alongside their reveal or before.

I don't think we'll have a stage-less newcomer this time, considering how much effort is put into a reveal with a trailer and all. Veterans, on the other hand....

 

[Morbi]

Actually, looking back, I don't think that was said.

So now that we're trying to change the subject away from Zelda newcomers...

Spoiler

Let's talk about MORE Zelda newcomers!

Shia/Cia jiggles on to the battlefield!
Would be a great replacement for Jiggly's puffs, right?

But seriously, if you guys aren't sick of talking about 'em, what do you guys rank all possible Zelda characters?
I honestly think:

Ghirahim - 42%
Impa - 8%
Tingle and Tetra - 7%
Ganon - 5.5%
ALBW Lorule (all 3) - 2.6%
Vaati - 2.5%
Toon Zelda - 0.9%
Demise - 0.5%
Zant - 0.1%
Happy Mask Salesman - 0.01%
Groose - 0.001%
ST/PH character - 0.0001%
Toon Ganondorf - 0.00001%
Shia/Cia - 0.00000000000000001%
Midna, Skull Kid, Twinrova, and everybody else - 0%

How do you guys rank them? Probably much less one-sided than I do, thinking Ghirahim is the only Zelda character with a notable chance is an unpopular opinion of mine.

And my want for them would be:

Midna - 1000000%
Ghirahim - 10000%
Shia/Cia - 100%
Zant - 99.9%
Skull Kid - 97.5%
Vaati - 95.5%
Twinrova - 93.5%
Impa - 92%
Alfonzo - 90%
Yuga - 85%
Happy Mask Salesman - 75%
Ravio and Hilda - 70%
Ganon - 66%
Groose - 60%
Byrne - 58%
Chancellor Cole - 55%
Linebeck - 51%
Tetra - 15% (love the character a lot... but, for some reason, I don't want to play as her in Smash)
Toon Ganondorf - 5.1%
Toon Zelda - 0.001%
Tingle - 0% Sorry

Tingle: 75%
Ganon: 51%
Ghirahim: 49%
Tetra: 25%

I feel as though it is going to be either Ganon or Ghirahim, in favor of Ganon ever so slightly. After that, between Tingle and Tetra, Tingle is three times as likely (in my opinion). As for want; however, that is entirely different.

Tingle: 100%
Ganon: 100%
Ghirahim: 100%
Tetra: 100%
Groose: 100%
Impa: 100%
Cia: 100%
Happy Mask Salesmen: 100%
Kaepora Gaebora: 100%

Everyone else: 50%

 

[Spinosaurus]

Just give me Ganon and I'll be SO happy.

 

[Morbi]

Just give me Ganon and I'll be SO happy.

I agree, Smash 4 will be my favorite (Smash) game regardless of how good it actually is if Ganon was a playable character.

 

[Autumn ♫]

I think we all know by now that Vaati is the best newcomer possible.

 

[Morbi]

I think we all know by now that Vaati is the best newcomer possible.

I had almost forgotten about Vaati. He would be another great newcomer; I do underestimate his chance in Smash 4, but make no mistake, he is one of my most wanted characters.

 

[praline]

All newcomers this time seem to have a home stage, which was shown off alongside their reveal or before.

I don't think we'll have a stage-less newcomer this time, considering how much effort is put into a reveal with a trailer and all. Veterans, on the other hand....

True but you can't be 100% sure until the final product is released.

 

[Dark Phazon]

I Really wanna see Ganondorf, Wario, Captain Falcon & G&W
My most hyped returns

 

[andimidna]

I noticed for each game a newcomer doesn't have a home stage... I wonder if the same will happen for SM4SH.

Ness and Captain Falcon for 64, Marth and Roy for Melee, and R.O.B. for Brawl.

I'm going to blame the first 2 on the lack of many Smash 64 stages.

There was a Fire Emblem one planned, but I guess it would have only represented Marth, and not Roy, so Roy still wouldn't have had a stage.
I think that if a series gets 2 newcomers, it's a likely candidate to fill this concept.
Like, on my roster, I have Chrom and Anna, and while Chrom already has a stage, I doubt Anna would get anything. Maybe there would be another Awakening stage not related to anybody, there could easily be 2, and this is especially possible if there's going to be a different one on the Wii U. But the Wii U could always just get a Radiant Dawn stage.
However, if DK were to get 2 newcomers and both Dixie and K Rool were playable, I would expect a stage for each, not just because we don't have any new DK stages yet, but also because of the large amount of choices to rep both characters. I'm thinking there will be a Returns stage on the 3ds, and Gangplank Galleon and one of the most popular Tropical Freeze levels turned into a stage on the Wii U. Perfect for both IMO.
But neither are guaranteed to get both characters, so I'm not counting on either way happening.

And the obscure historical retro didn't have one either...
I'd say that could happen again, especially if we get somebody like Diskun, I doubt he'd have a stage, but if Sheriff made it I think he's have a stage, and if a popular newcomer like Takamaru, Mach Rider, or Lip made it, I'd expect a stage.

A lot of the major choices already have what could be considered their stages: Palutena, Chrom, Ridley...
Interesting concept.

 

[praline]

Are we allowed to post rosters in this topic?

 

[Kenith]

I thought that pretty much every character I wanted had no chance.

Then we got Rosalina (my most wanted Mario newcomer), then Greninja, both of them being so much more fresh than I ever would have anticipated.

So maybe I am just wanting the right characters?

@ praline Yes.

 

[Morbi]

Are we allowed to post rosters in this topic?

That is pretty much what we do here.

I Really wanna see Ganondorf, Wario, Captain Falcon & G&W
My most hyped returns

My most hyped return(s) are Ganondorf.

 

[MasterOfKnees]

I can't imagine a home-stage for Greninja unless "anything" from Pokemon X and Y applies.

Yeah, I think Lumiose City and the Kalos Elite Four stages count for Greninja the same way many people considered Spear Pillar to count for Lucario.

 

[praline]

Well then this is the roster I think is possible.

I only really have Pacman, Mii and Chorus Men cause of the Gematsu/Sal Romano leak though..

 

[Kenith]

Well then this is the roster I think is possible.

I only really have Pacman, Mii and Chorus Men cause of the Gematsu/Sal Romano leak though..

Too safe, I feel. I have seen all of these choices a million times before.

Also, there is a profound lack of Debbie.

 

[Spinosaurus]

Ridley and Isaac, and the lack of Lucas and Wolf aside, I can see that roster.

 

[Morbi]

Too safe, I feel. I have seen all of these choices a million times before.

Also, there is a profound lack of Debbie.

How could a roster be too safe without Wolf? 'Tis impossible!

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Also, there is a profound lack of Debbie.

WHO THE HECK IS DEBBIE?

 

[praline]

Too safe, I feel. I have seen all of these choices a million times before.

Also, there is a profound lack of Debbie.

I don't think saying something is "too safe" is a legitimate debunk.

 

[Morbi]

WHO THE HECK IS DEBBIE?

Ghirahim.

Probably ninja'd.

 

[Kenith]

I don't think saying something is "too safe" is a legitimate debunk.

Why would I want to debunk it? I'm just saying, it's not fun to make a safe roster.

How could a roster be too safe without Wolf? 'Tis impossible!

WAIT, THERE'S NO WOLF? 0/10 all vets must return.

 

[Second Power]

Well then this is the roster I think is possible.

I only really have Pacman, Mii and Chorus Men cause of the Gematsu/Sal Romano leak though..

At first, I liked it. Then I noticed you cut Lucas and Wolf, which I don't see as likely. However, I do like Isaac. I'd be good with this roster since I don't care for the cuts, but again, I don't see them likely.

 

[praline]

I just don't see Lucas, Wolf and Snake returning...

 

[Kenith]

Ghirahim.

Probably ninja'd.

NO, Morbid! It was funnier when he didn't know!

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Well then this is the roster I think is possible.

I only really have Pacman, Mii and Chorus Men cause of the Gematsu/Sal Romano leak though..

In all seriousness though, cut chorus men for maybe Krystal

 

[praline]

We've already been over my thoughts on Ghirahim.

In all seriousness though, cut chorus men for maybe Krystal

I will remove Chorus Men once the Sal Romano/Gematus leak is proven false.

 

[Spinosaurus]

In all seriousness though, cut chorus men for maybe Krystal

Yo yo yo yo yo.

No. No. No.

Seriously though Rhythm Heaven SHOULD get a rep.

 

[Kenith]

We've already been over my thoughts on Ghirahim.

I know that, hence why I ask you add him to your roster.

Doctors say it cures depression.

 

[Jason the Yoshi]

Yo yo yo yo yo.

No. No. No.

Seriously though Rhythm Heaven SHOULD get a rep.

I don't trust leaks no matter how credible.

 

[Deleted member]

The irony was that Ron Jeremy came from being an entertainer of a kid's show to an icon for the the pornographic industry.

Uhh...I think you're mistaking him for Captain Lou Albano

In all seriousness though, cut chorus men for maybe Krystal

Cliff....man.....please.

Why would I want to debunk it? I'm just saying, it's not fun to make a safe roster.

Everybody's recent rosters lately are becoming safe IMO...but hey, thats not me saying "My rosters better!"

 

[Kenith]

I think Chrom and Chorus Men getting added is less likely than cutting Wolf and Lucas.

 

[praline]

I know that, hence why I ask you add him to your roster.

Doctors say it cures depression.

How about no?