Character Discussion Thread

Gunla · May 24, 2014

EbonyRubberWolf said:
Then why call it an invitational tournament? Call it a test demo and avoid the confusion. This is 'boss characters' level confusion here.

Well, there's the possibility we could learn the final roster.

Or, they'll be told what they'll be able to play as and who they can play as (which will likely be the currently revealed characters and E3 2014 characters) as this is an invitational.

BADGRAPHICS · May 24, 2014

CrusherMania1592 said:
Nope, there's no way Robin would even be playable. Just because Wii Fit Trainer and Villager were confirmed and have gender options doesn't mean Robin is. Robin isn't the face of Fire Emblem nor a Lord, so I don't see it happening. Best Robin can get is AT or trophy. Robin was basically thrown in my face so much that I dislike Robin due to that.

That isn't a reasoned conclusion, and you know it.
Not that I think Robin is likely; s/he probably isn't, but you can't just go around making up facts, it's not the done thing.

Actually...

It probably is the done thing, isn't it? I suppose I'm actually in the minority when it comes to knowing that you need evidence to back up claims.

Carry on.

EbonyRubberWolf · May 24, 2014

That's a test-play, not a tournament. I suppose it's petty semantics, but it's extremely confusing nonetheless.

Morbi · May 24, 2014

EbonyRubberWolf said:
That's a test-play, not a tournament. I suppose it's petty semantics, but it's extremely confusing nonetheless.

Fine; they are inviting 16 highly skilled Smashers to test-play the game in a tournament format.

praline · May 24, 2014

MorbidAltruism said:
Fine; they are inviting 16 highly skilled Smashers to test-play the game in a tournament format.

Pretty much this.

EbonyRubberWolf · May 24, 2014

Either way, I stand by what I've interpreted so far(and remain bound to the wager I'd made prior).

Kenith · May 24, 2014

EbonyRubberWolf said:
Either way, I stand by what I've interpreted so far(and remain bound to the wager I'd made prior).

If you've accepted we can't change your minds, and you clearly can't change ours, why continue to talk about this?

EbonyRubberWolf · May 24, 2014

I dunno. Guess I saw an opportunity.

praline · May 24, 2014

EbonyRubberWolf said:
I dunno. Guess I saw an opportunity.

Well there wasn't one.

andimidna · May 24, 2014

PREDICTION (with a dash of WANT) ROSTER

Super Smash Bros Wii U 3ds (56) Roster.png

My roster is TOO BIG!
lawl i no
I mean, that's 55 characters!
But I'm too indecisive and too attached too the less likely of the bunch that I can't get myself to make it smaller.
Newcomers-
I have removed the Gematsu Leak's presence from my roster. I... no thanks. It's only worth it for Shulk. Palutena is already in. The rest of them are neutral to bad.
Rosalina- yay
Dixie Kong and K Rool- I want a dual reveal of this. Just imagine, both sides, oh... the hype... DK is (I believe) the 4th most iconic and best-selling Nintendo franchise. And while it's representation in Smash 64 was good enough (still at it's minimum though) ... Melee and Brawl needed more. Let's make up for that time we lost, the time we could have been playing as Diddy in Melee, and K Rool in Brawl. I just need both, Sakurai, pls!
Ghirahim- He's the current popular character of the series with a lot of great moveset potential. He's no guarantee, but he's the one being requested, at least, more so than the others. I've pretty much lost hope in every other Zelda character (But I'd say Impa, Tetra, Ganon, and Tingle have only just below a 10% chance, so they're not too off). His biggest competition IMO is without a doubt, no Zelda newcomer. Which would piss me off. Toon Link was an upgraded Young Link, who was a shorter OoT Link. I refuse to call him a newcomer. And since Sheik was part of Zelda, and has only become her own character in her 3rd appearance as a veteran, and Falcondorf was Falcondorf, in my eyes, the most recent NEWcomer to the Zelda cast was Princess Zelda herself. And that was a long time ago. I'm still waiting, Sakurai, still... waiting....
Ridley- he's Ridley, in case you've forgotten.
Shulk and Isaac- I don't feel like anybody is going to look at my roster and yell at me for having these 2, so... no reasons.
Villager, WFT, Little Mac- yay
Mach Rider- Alright. I really don't know about this one. I'm not super attached, so if I get complaints, I'll change. But for now, this is really just my retro slot. It can also be Takamaru or a Historical Retro, just pretend whoever you want to be here is in this slot. I'm not going to argue him, I just always saw him as the 3rd choice after Takamaru and Lip pre-direct, and I lost hope in Takamaru because somebody as new as Greninja would have probably been close to the last newcomer added. And if they gave all of those moves to Greninja w/o a 2nd thought, then they probably didn't already exist on the roster. I like the theory that he already has a new game in development, that gives him a bunch of new moves, therefore, those aren't him anymore, or something along those lines, but I don't know how likely that is. And Lip because of Lip's Stick of course. So Mach Rider now seems like either the top pick or tied with Takamaru for the popular retro slot, but I'm starting to think that a historical newcomer is more likely, but... I thought Daitoryo was the frontrunner in that category, and he's technically done now... so I just don't know. Pls help meehhh.
Greninja and Palutena- yay
Chrom and Anna- I think Chrom's in, and there's not much I can do about that, I don't really care, honestly, i mean, if they decided to make him unique by pairing him up with Lucina, I'd be actually very hyped by his reveal. That would pretty difficult to accomplish, I'd have much more respect for Sakurai if he took that turn instead of giving us a Luigi-fied Mark... I mean Irthe. And as for Anna, I think Robin is more likely, but she's been added mostly out of personal bias, I love her. But I have been seeing a few things that have been keeping me thinking this isn't too crazy. Well, I do have to admit that she is probably the least likely character on my roster.
Mega Man and Pac-Man- yay

Considering (some as replacements, some as additions): Bowser Jr, Andy, Chibi Robo, Krystal, Takamaru, Diskun, Sheriff, Robin, Sceptile, and Bayonetta
*Note that- the chances of the characters above fluctuate quite a bit... they aren't grouped by being in the same 10% range of likelihood, but are who I consider the 10 most likely characters not on my roster, not in that order.

Wow... 16 newcomers... I'm a bit hopeful, aren't I?
Oh well...
Veterans not returning on roster:
Red
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Roy
Dr. Mario
Pichu
technically OoT Young Link too

Considering: Snake...
I don't want to cut him but I'm not counting it out as a possibility...

So I guess I'd ask for a couple of responses to this...
1. Would you be happy with this roster, as in, not looking at likelihood and instead at satisfaction?
2. Ehh... Overall suggestions I guess... I'd rather not remove Ghirahim and Anna btw
3. A RETRO CHARACTER DISCUSSION - I don't know who to pick!

And I'll be updating this with certain icons I like more soon...

Rebellious Treecko · May 24, 2014

KenithTheGatherer said:
If you've accepted we can't change your minds, and you clearly can't change ours, why continue to talk about this?

Looks like y'all have reached an IMPAsse.

Can't say I think Hyrule Warriors will increase her chances. Who knows, though.

----

False Sense · May 24, 2014

EbonyRubberWolf said:
Either way, I stand by what I've interpreted so far(and remain bound to the wager I'd made prior).

Well, I guess it won't be long till E3...

praline · May 24, 2014

andimidna said:
PREDICTION (with a dash of WANT) ROSTER
View attachment 14673
My roster is TOO BIG!
lawl i no
I mean, that's 55 characters!
But I'm too indecisive and too attached too the less likely of the bunch that I can't get myself to make it smaller.
Newcomers-
I have removed the Gematsu Leak's presence from my roster. I... no thanks. It's only worth it for Shulk. Palutena is already in. The rest of them are neutral to bad.
Rosalina- yay
Dixie Kong and K Rool- I want a dual reveal of this. Just imagine, both sides, oh... the hype... DK is (I believe) the 4th most iconic and best-selling Nintendo franchise. And while it's representation in Smash 64 was good enough (still at it's minimum though) ... Melee and Brawl needed more. Let's make up for that time we lost, the time we could have been playing as Diddy in Melee, and K Rool in Brawl. I just need both, Sakurai, pls!
Ghirahim- He's the current popular character of the series with a lot of great moveset potential. He's no guarantee, but he's the one being requested, at least, more so than the others. I've pretty much lost hope in every other Zelda character (But I'd say Impa, Tetra, Ganon, and Tingle have only just below a 10% chance, so they're not too off). His biggest competition IMO is without a doubt, no Zelda newcomer. Which would piss me off. Toon Link was an upgraded Young Link, who was a shorter OoT Link. I refuse to call him a newcomer. And since Sheik was part of Zelda, and has only become her own character in her 3rd appearance as a veteran, and Falcondorf was Falcondorf, in my eyes, the most recent NEWcomer to the Zelda cast was Princess Zelda herself. And that was a long time ago. I'm still waiting, Sakurai, still... waiting....
Ridley- he's Ridley, in case you've forgotten.
Shulk and Isaac- I don't feel like anybody is going to look at my roster and yell at me for having these 2, so... no reasons.
Villager, WFT, Little Mac- yay
Mach Rider- Alright. I really don't know about this one. I'm not super attached, so if I get complaints, I'll change. But for now, this is really just my retro slot. It can also be Takamaru or a Historical Retro, just pretend whoever you want to be here is in this slot. I'm not going to argue him, I just always saw him as the 3rd choice after Takamaru and Lip pre-direct, and I lost hope in Takamaru because somebody as new as Greninja would have probably been close to the last newcomer added. And if they gave all of those moves to Greninja w/o a 2nd thought, then they probably didn't already exist on the roster. I like the theory that he already has a new game in development, that gives him a bunch of new moves, therefore, those aren't him anymore, or something along those lines, but I don't know how likely that is. And Lip because of Lip's Stick of course. So Mach Rider now seems like either the top pick or tied with Takamaru for the popular retro slot, but I'm starting to think that a historical newcomer is more likely, but... I thought Daitoryo was the frontrunner in that category, and he's technically done now... so I just don't know. Pls help meehhh.
Greninja and Palutena- yay
Chrom and Anna- I think Chrom's in, and there's not much I can do about that, I don't really care, honestly, i mean, if they decided to make him unique by pairing him up with Lucina, I'd be actually very hyped by his reveal. That would pretty difficult to accomplish, I'd have much more respect for Sakurai if he took that turn instead of giving us a Luigi-fied Mark... I mean Irthe. And as for Anna, I think Robin is more likely, but she's been added mostly out of personal bias, I love her. But I have been seeing a few things that have been keeping me thinking this isn't too crazy. Well, I do have to admit that she is probably the least likely character on my roster.
Mega Man and Pac-Man- yay

Considering (some as replacements, some as additions): Bowser Jr, Andy, Chibi Robo, Krystal, Takamaru, Diskun, Sheriff, Robin, Sceptile, and Bayonetta
*Note that- the chances of the characters above fluctuate quite a bit... they aren't grouped by being in the same 10% range of likelihood, but are who I consider the 10 most likely characters not on my roster, not in that order.

Wow... 16 newcomers... I'm a bit hopeful, aren't I?
Oh well...
Veterans not returning on roster:
Red
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Roy
Dr. Mario
Pichu
technically OoT Young Link too

Considering: Snake...
I don't want to cut him but I'm not counting it out as a possibility...

So I guess I'd ask for a couple of responses to this...
1. Would you be happy with this roster, as in, not looking at likelihood and instead at satisfaction?
2. Ehh... Overall suggestions I guess... I'd rather not remove Ghirahim and Anna btw
3. A RETRO CHARACTER DISCUSSION - I don't know who to pick!

And I'll be updating this with certain icons I like more soon...

This would be perfect for pretty much everyone.

Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur · May 24, 2014

I honestly expect the tournament to be more of a promo event to hype up the game than a serious tournament on the level of what pro gamers organize.

That said, I have an excellent idea: let's change the subject!

... to something other than Zelda, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, or King K. Rool.
Or... Ridley.

EbonyRubberWolf · May 24, 2014

False Sense said:
Well, I guess it won't be long till E3...

Indeed it won't! I wonder what I'd actually get if I'm right. >.>; And if I'm wrong, well then!

Morbi · May 24, 2014

Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur said:
I honestly expect the tournament to be more of a promo event to hype up the game than a serious tournament on the level of what pro gamers organize.

That said, I have an excellent idea: let's change the subject!

... to something other than Zelda, Fire Emblem, Pokemon, or King K. Rool.
Or... Ridley.

There are no other interesting subjects.

andimidna said:
PREDICTION (with a dash of WANT) ROSTER
View attachment 14673
My roster is TOO BIG!
lawl i no
I mean, that's 55 characters!
But I'm too indecisive and too attached too the less likely of the bunch that I can't get myself to make it smaller.
Newcomers-
I have removed the Gematsu Leak's presence from my roster. I... no thanks. It's only worth it for Shulk. Palutena is already in. The rest of them are neutral to bad.
Rosalina- yay
Dixie Kong and K Rool- I want a dual reveal of this. Just imagine, both sides, oh... the hype... DK is (I believe) the 4th most iconic and best-selling Nintendo franchise. And while it's representation in Smash 64 was good enough (still at it's minimum though) ... Melee and Brawl needed more. Let's make up for that time we lost, the time we could have been playing as Diddy in Melee, and K Rool in Brawl. I just need both, Sakurai, pls!
Ghirahim- He's the current popular character of the series with a lot of great moveset potential. He's no guarantee, but he's the one being requested, at least, more so than the others. I've pretty much lost hope in every other Zelda character (But I'd say Impa, Tetra, Ganon, and Tingle have only just below a 10% chance, so they're not too off). His biggest competition IMO is without a doubt, no Zelda newcomer. Which would piss me off. Toon Link was an upgraded Young Link, who was a shorter OoT Link. I refuse to call him a newcomer. And since Sheik was part of Zelda, and has only become her own character in her 3rd appearance as a veteran, and Falcondorf was Falcondorf, in my eyes, the most recent NEWcomer to the Zelda cast was Princess Zelda herself. And that was a long time ago. I'm still waiting, Sakurai, still... waiting....
Ridley- he's Ridley, in case you've forgotten.
Shulk and Isaac- I don't feel like anybody is going to look at my roster and yell at me for having these 2, so... no reasons.
Villager, WFT, Little Mac- yay
Mach Rider- Alright. I really don't know about this one. I'm not super attached, so if I get complaints, I'll change. But for now, this is really just my retro slot. It can also be Takamaru or a Historical Retro, just pretend whoever you want to be here is in this slot. I'm not going to argue him, I just always saw him as the 3rd choice after Takamaru and Lip pre-direct, and I lost hope in Takamaru because somebody as new as Greninja would have probably been close to the last newcomer added. And if they gave all of those moves to Greninja w/o a 2nd thought, then they probably didn't already exist on the roster. I like the theory that he already has a new game in development, that gives him a bunch of new moves, therefore, those aren't him anymore, or something along those lines, but I don't know how likely that is. And Lip because of Lip's Stick of course. So Mach Rider now seems like either the top pick or tied with Takamaru for the popular retro slot, but I'm starting to think that a historical newcomer is more likely, but... I thought Daitoryo was the frontrunner in that category, and he's technically done now... so I just don't know. Pls help meehhh.
Greninja and Palutena- yay
Chrom and Anna- I think Chrom's in, and there's not much I can do about that, I don't really care, honestly, i mean, if they decided to make him unique by pairing him up with Lucina, I'd be actually very hyped by his reveal. That would pretty difficult to accomplish, I'd have much more respect for Sakurai if he took that turn instead of giving us a Luigi-fied Mark... I mean Irthe. And as for Anna, I think Robin is more likely, but she's been added mostly out of personal bias, I love her. But I have been seeing a few things that have been keeping me thinking this isn't too crazy. Well, I do have to admit that she is probably the least likely character on my roster.
Mega Man and Pac-Man- yay

Considering (some as replacements, some as additions): Bowser Jr, Andy, Chibi Robo, Krystal, Takamaru, Diskun, Sheriff, Robin, Sceptile, and Bayonetta
*Note that- the chances of the characters above fluctuate quite a bit... they aren't grouped by being in the same 10% range of likelihood, but are who I consider the 10 most likely characters not on my roster, not in that order.

Wow... 16 newcomers... I'm a bit hopeful, aren't I?
Oh well...
Veterans not returning on roster:
Red
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Roy
Dr. Mario
Pichu
technically OoT Young Link too

Considering: Snake...
I don't want to cut him but I'm not counting it out as a possibility...

So I guess I'd ask for a couple of responses to this...
1. Would you be happy with this roster, as in, not looking at likelihood and instead at satisfaction?
2. Ehh... Overall suggestions I guess... I'd rather not remove Ghirahim and Anna btw
3. A RETRO CHARACTER DISCUSSION - I don't know who to pick!

And I'll be updating this with certain icons I like more soon...

I would murder a kitten to have this roster (I keed, I keed, I love kittens).

EbonyRubberWolf said:
Indeed it won't! I wonder what I'd actually get if I'm right. >.>; And if I'm wrong, well then!

If you are wrong; I am right, once again. So I count on it. :denzel:

Autumn ♫ · May 24, 2014

andimidna said:
2. Ehh... Overall suggestions I guess... I'd rather not remove Ghirahim.

I have a feeling this was directed towards me. :laugh:

Kenith · May 24, 2014

andimidna said:
PREDICTION (with a dash of WANT) ROSTER
View attachment 14673
My roster is TOO BIG!
lawl i no
I mean, that's 55 characters!
But I'm too indecisive and too attached too the less likely of the bunch that I can't get myself to make it smaller.
Newcomers-
I have removed the Gematsu Leak's presence from my roster. I... no thanks. It's only worth it for Shulk. Palutena is already in. The rest of them are neutral to bad.
Rosalina- yay
Dixie Kong and K Rool- I want a dual reveal of this. Just imagine, both sides, oh... the hype... DK is (I believe) the 4th most iconic and best-selling Nintendo franchise. And while it's representation in Smash 64 was good enough (still at it's minimum though) ... Melee and Brawl needed more. Let's make up for that time we lost, the time we could have been playing as Diddy in Melee, and K Rool in Brawl. I just need both, Sakurai, pls!
Ghirahim- He's the current popular character of the series with a lot of great moveset potential. He's no guarantee, but he's the one being requested, at least, more so than the others. I've pretty much lost hope in every other Zelda character (But I'd say Impa, Tetra, Ganon, and Tingle have only just below a 10% chance, so they're not too off). His biggest competition IMO is without a doubt, no Zelda newcomer. Which would piss me off. Toon Link was an upgraded Young Link, who was a shorter OoT Link. I refuse to call him a newcomer. And since Sheik was part of Zelda, and has only become her own character in her 3rd appearance as a veteran, and Falcondorf was Falcondorf, in my eyes, the most recent NEWcomer to the Zelda cast was Princess Zelda herself. And that was a long time ago. I'm still waiting, Sakurai, still... waiting....
Ridley- he's Ridley, in case you've forgotten.
Shulk and Isaac- I don't feel like anybody is going to look at my roster and yell at me for having these 2, so... no reasons.
Villager, WFT, Little Mac- yay
Mach Rider- Alright. I really don't know about this one. I'm not super attached, so if I get complaints, I'll change. But for now, this is really just my retro slot. It can also be Takamaru or a Historical Retro, just pretend whoever you want to be here is in this slot. I'm not going to argue him, I just always saw him as the 3rd choice after Takamaru and Lip pre-direct, and I lost hope in Takamaru because somebody as new as Greninja would have probably been close to the last newcomer added. And if they gave all of those moves to Greninja w/o a 2nd thought, then they probably didn't already exist on the roster. I like the theory that he already has a new game in development, that gives him a bunch of new moves, therefore, those aren't him anymore, or something along those lines, but I don't know how likely that is. And Lip because of Lip's Stick of course. So Mach Rider now seems like either the top pick or tied with Takamaru for the popular retro slot, but I'm starting to think that a historical newcomer is more likely, but... I thought Daitoryo was the frontrunner in that category, and he's technically done now... so I just don't know. Pls help meehhh.
Greninja and Palutena- yay
Chrom and Anna- I think Chrom's in, and there's not much I can do about that, I don't really care, honestly, i mean, if they decided to make him unique by pairing him up with Lucina, I'd be actually very hyped by his reveal. That would pretty difficult to accomplish, I'd have much more respect for Sakurai if he took that turn instead of giving us a Luigi-fied Mark... I mean Irthe. And as for Anna, I think Robin is more likely, but she's been added mostly out of personal bias, I love her. But I have been seeing a few things that have been keeping me thinking this isn't too crazy. Well, I do have to admit that she is probably the least likely character on my roster.
Mega Man and Pac-Man- yay

Considering (some as replacements, some as additions): Bowser Jr, Andy, Chibi Robo, Krystal, Takamaru, Diskun, Sheriff, Robin, Sceptile, and Bayonetta
*Note that- the chances of the characters above fluctuate quite a bit... they aren't grouped by being in the same 10% range of likelihood, but are who I consider the 10 most likely characters not on my roster, not in that order.

Wow... 16 newcomers... I'm a bit hopeful, aren't I?
Oh well...
Veterans not returning on roster:
Red
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Roy
Dr. Mario
Pichu
technically OoT Young Link too

Considering: Snake...
I don't want to cut him but I'm not counting it out as a possibility...

So I guess I'd ask for a couple of responses to this...
1. Would you be happy with this roster, as in, not looking at likelihood and instead at satisfaction?
2. Ehh... Overall suggestions I guess... I'd rather not remove Ghirahim and Anna btw
3. A RETRO CHARACTER DISCUSSION - I don't know who to pick!

And I'll be updating this with certain icons I like more soon...

This is pretty much my roster, with more characters.

praline · May 24, 2014

The only thing about that roster is Ghirahim. He's just another Zant.

Kenith · May 24, 2014

skaaaa said:
The only thing about that roster is Ghirahim. He's just another Zant.

No. He's another Midna, if anything. And unlike Midna, his game (and popularity) were founded before the roster was finalized.

Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur · May 24, 2014

andimidna said:
PREDICTION (with a dash of WANT) ROSTER
View attachment 14673
My roster is TOO BIG!
lawl i no
I mean, that's 55 characters!
But I'm too indecisive and too attached too the less likely of the bunch that I can't get myself to make it smaller.
Newcomers-
I have removed the Gematsu Leak's presence from my roster. I... no thanks. It's only worth it for Shulk. Palutena is already in. The rest of them are neutral to bad.
Rosalina- yay
Dixie Kong and K Rool- I want a dual reveal of this. Just imagine, both sides, oh... the hype... DK is (I believe) the 4th most iconic and best-selling Nintendo franchise. And while it's representation in Smash 64 was good enough (still at it's minimum though) ... Melee and Brawl needed more. Let's make up for that time we lost, the time we could have been playing as Diddy in Melee, and K Rool in Brawl. I just need both, Sakurai, pls!
Ghirahim- He's the current popular character of the series with a lot of great moveset potential. He's no guarantee, but he's the one being requested, at least, more so than the others. I've pretty much lost hope in every other Zelda character (But I'd say Impa, Tetra, Ganon, and Tingle have only just below a 10% chance, so they're not too off). His biggest competition IMO is without a doubt, no Zelda newcomer. Which would piss me off. Toon Link was an upgraded Young Link, who was a shorter OoT Link. I refuse to call him a newcomer. And since Sheik was part of Zelda, and has only become her own character in her 3rd appearance as a veteran, and Falcondorf was Falcondorf, in my eyes, the most recent NEWcomer to the Zelda cast was Princess Zelda herself. And that was a long time ago. I'm still waiting, Sakurai, still... waiting....
Ridley- he's Ridley, in case you've forgotten.
Shulk and Isaac- I don't feel like anybody is going to look at my roster and yell at me for having these 2, so... no reasons.
Villager, WFT, Little Mac- yay
Mach Rider- Alright. I really don't know about this one. I'm not super attached, so if I get complaints, I'll change. But for now, this is really just my retro slot. It can also be Takamaru or a Historical Retro, just pretend whoever you want to be here is in this slot. I'm not going to argue him, I just always saw him as the 3rd choice after Takamaru and Lip pre-direct, and I lost hope in Takamaru because somebody as new as Greninja would have probably been close to the last newcomer added. And if they gave all of those moves to Greninja w/o a 2nd thought, then they probably didn't already exist on the roster. I like the theory that he already has a new game in development, that gives him a bunch of new moves, therefore, those aren't him anymore, or something along those lines, but I don't know how likely that is. And Lip because of Lip's Stick of course. So Mach Rider now seems like either the top pick or tied with Takamaru for the popular retro slot, but I'm starting to think that a historical newcomer is more likely, but... I thought Daitoryo was the frontrunner in that category, and he's technically done now... so I just don't know. Pls help meehhh.
Greninja and Palutena- yay
Chrom and Anna- I think Chrom's in, and there's not much I can do about that, I don't really care, honestly, i mean, if they decided to make him unique by pairing him up with Lucina, I'd be actually very hyped by his reveal. That would pretty difficult to accomplish, I'd have much more respect for Sakurai if he took that turn instead of giving us a Luigi-fied Mark... I mean Irthe. And as for Anna, I think Robin is more likely, but she's been added mostly out of personal bias, I love her. But I have been seeing a few things that have been keeping me thinking this isn't too crazy. Well, I do have to admit that she is probably the least likely character on my roster.
Mega Man and Pac-Man- yay

Considering (some as replacements, some as additions): Bowser Jr, Andy, Chibi Robo, Krystal, Takamaru, Diskun, Sheriff, Robin, Sceptile, and Bayonetta
*Note that- the chances of the characters above fluctuate quite a bit... they aren't grouped by being in the same 10% range of likelihood, but are who I consider the 10 most likely characters not on my roster, not in that order.

Wow... 16 newcomers... I'm a bit hopeful, aren't I?
Oh well...
Veterans not returning on roster:
Red
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Roy
Dr. Mario
Pichu
technically OoT Young Link too

Considering: Snake...
I don't want to cut him but I'm not counting it out as a possibility...

So I guess I'd ask for a couple of responses to this...
1. Would you be happy with this roster, as in, not looking at likelihood and instead at satisfaction?
2. Ehh... Overall suggestions I guess... I'd rather not remove Ghirahim and Anna btw
3. A RETRO CHARACTER DISCUSSION - I don't know who to pick!

And I'll be updating this with certain icons I like more soon...

Your roster is so awesome I would literally feel guilty about nitpicking. I could wait til Smash Bros 5 for any of my other wants.
It's basically the kind of roster I hope for but don't expect, so I won't feel punched in the gut if it doesn't happen.

Morbi · May 24, 2014

KenithTheGatherer said:
No. He's another Midna, if anything. And unlike Midna, his game (and popularity) were founded before the roster was finalized.

Isn't Fi the other Midna though? I mean; Ghirahim is much more prominent and pertinent to the story (than Zant), but he isn't an annoying companion. :troll:

Jerry Applesauce · May 24, 2014

andimidna said:
PREDICTION (with a dash of WANT) ROSTER
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My roster is TOO BIG!
lawl i no
I mean, that's 55 characters!
But I'm too indecisive and too attached too the less likely of the bunch that I can't get myself to make it smaller.
Newcomers-
I have removed the Gematsu Leak's presence from my roster. I... no thanks. It's only worth it for Shulk. Palutena is already in. The rest of them are neutral to bad.
Rosalina- yay
Dixie Kong and K Rool- I want a dual reveal of this. Just imagine, both sides, oh... the hype... DK is (I believe) the 4th most iconic and best-selling Nintendo franchise. And while it's representation in Smash 64 was good enough (still at it's minimum though) ... Melee and Brawl needed more. Let's make up for that time we lost, the time we could have been playing as Diddy in Melee, and K Rool in Brawl. I just need both, Sakurai, pls!
Ghirahim- He's the current popular character of the series with a lot of great moveset potential. He's no guarantee, but he's the one being requested, at least, more so than the others. I've pretty much lost hope in every other Zelda character (But I'd say Impa, Tetra, Ganon, and Tingle have only just below a 10% chance, so they're not too off). His biggest competition IMO is without a doubt, no Zelda newcomer. Which would piss me off. Toon Link was an upgraded Young Link, who was a shorter OoT Link. I refuse to call him a newcomer. And since Sheik was part of Zelda, and has only become her own character in her 3rd appearance as a veteran, and Falcondorf was Falcondorf, in my eyes, the most recent NEWcomer to the Zelda cast was Princess Zelda herself. And that was a long time ago. I'm still waiting, Sakurai, still... waiting....
Ridley- he's Ridley, in case you've forgotten.
Shulk and Isaac- I don't feel like anybody is going to look at my roster and yell at me for having these 2, so... no reasons.
Villager, WFT, Little Mac- yay
Mach Rider- Alright. I really don't know about this one. I'm not super attached, so if I get complaints, I'll change. But for now, this is really just my retro slot. It can also be Takamaru or a Historical Retro, just pretend whoever you want to be here is in this slot. I'm not going to argue him, I just always saw him as the 3rd choice after Takamaru and Lip pre-direct, and I lost hope in Takamaru because somebody as new as Greninja would have probably been close to the last newcomer added. And if they gave all of those moves to Greninja w/o a 2nd thought, then they probably didn't already exist on the roster. I like the theory that he already has a new game in development, that gives him a bunch of new moves, therefore, those aren't him anymore, or something along those lines, but I don't know how likely that is. And Lip because of Lip's Stick of course. So Mach Rider now seems like either the top pick or tied with Takamaru for the popular retro slot, but I'm starting to think that a historical newcomer is more likely, but... I thought Daitoryo was the frontrunner in that category, and he's technically done now... so I just don't know. Pls help meehhh.
Greninja and Palutena- yay
Chrom and Anna- I think Chrom's in, and there's not much I can do about that, I don't really care, honestly, i mean, if they decided to make him unique by pairing him up with Lucina, I'd be actually very hyped by his reveal. That would pretty difficult to accomplish, I'd have much more respect for Sakurai if he took that turn instead of giving us a Luigi-fied Mark... I mean Irthe. And as for Anna, I think Robin is more likely, but she's been added mostly out of personal bias, I love her. But I have been seeing a few things that have been keeping me thinking this isn't too crazy. Well, I do have to admit that she is probably the least likely character on my roster.
Mega Man and Pac-Man- yay

Considering (some as replacements, some as additions): Bowser Jr, Andy, Chibi Robo, Krystal, Takamaru, Diskun, Sheriff, Robin, Sceptile, and Bayonetta
*Note that- the chances of the characters above fluctuate quite a bit... they aren't grouped by being in the same 10% range of likelihood, but are who I consider the 10 most likely characters not on my roster, not in that order.

Wow... 16 newcomers... I'm a bit hopeful, aren't I?
Oh well...
Veterans not returning on roster:
Red
Squirtle
Ivysaur
Roy
Dr. Mario
Pichu
technically OoT Young Link too

Considering: Snake...
I don't want to cut him but I'm not counting it out as a possibility...

So I guess I'd ask for a couple of responses to this...
1. Would you be happy with this roster, as in, not looking at likelihood and instead at satisfaction?
2. Ehh... Overall suggestions I guess... I'd rather not remove Ghirahim and Anna btw
3. A RETRO CHARACTER DISCUSSION - I don't know who to pick!

And I'll be updating this with certain icons I like more soon...

I'd back this. I would prefer it not having Dixie and Ridley, but other than that I back this. Probably about 92.79830591%.

praline · May 24, 2014

KenithTheGatherer said:
No. He's another Midna, if anything. And unlike Midna, his game (and popularity) were founded before the roster was finalized.

Either way he's a character that's probably never gonna be in another Zelda.

Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur · May 24, 2014

KenithTheGatherer said:
No. He's another Midna, if anything. And unlike Midna, his game (and popularity) were founded before the roster was finalized.

That does play in his favor.
My only issue with him is he's not my favorite one-game Zelda character. But I would love to see an original newcomer, by which I mean more original than Ganondorf and Toon Link. Of course, I'd also like to see those two become more original.

andimidna · May 24, 2014

ScatmansWorld25 said:
I have a feeling this was directed towards me.

It was directed at those who responded to KTG's roster yesterday :laugh:

9/10 responses were basically "looks good, but I'm not so sure about Anna and Ghirahim"

KenithTheGatherer said:
This is pretty much my roster, with more characters.

What else would you expect after knowing we like basically all the same characters?

skaaaa said:
The only thing about that roster is Ghirahim. He's just another Zant.

I believe it has been officially stated that Brawl's roster was finalized in mid-2005
So he is not comparable to Zant or Midna, but more comparable to the one-time character from a popular 3D title before those...

Except unlike Sheik and more like Zant and Midna, he fights in his game. I'm not going to call him a shoo-in are anything... but if we are getting a Zelda newcomer, I would expect it to be Ghirahim. I'd be fine with anybody except another Link, another Zelda, and Tingle... but I think he's actually the more likely of the 6 legitimate choices for Zelda.

praline · May 24, 2014

andimidna said:
It was directed at those who responded to KTG's roster yesterday
9/10 responses were basically "looks good, but I'm not so sure about Anna and Ghirahim"

What else would you expect after knowing we like basically all the same characters?

I believe it has been officially stated that Brawl's roster was finalized in mid-2005
So he is not comparable to Zant or Midna, but more comparable to the one-time character from a popular 3D title before those...

Except unlike Sheik and more like Zant and Midna, he fights in his game. I'm not going to call him a shoo-in are anything... but if we are getting a Zelda newcomer, I would expect it to be Ghirahim. I'd be fine with anybody except another Link, another Zelda, and Tingle... but I think he's actually the more likely of the 6 legitimate choices for Zelda.

I meant that he's like Zant in that they were both a puppet to the real main villain and won't be in another game. I also can not stand him. He's hella ugly and annoyed the hell out of me the moment i first saw him.

Kenith · May 24, 2014

MorbidAltruism said:
Isn't Fi the other Midna though? I mean; Ghirahim is much more prominent and pertinent to the story (than Zant), but he isn't an annoying companion.

No, because Fi has no character development and doesn't do anything other than nag you.

skaaaa said:
Either way he's a character that's probably never gonna be in another Zelda.

Hyrule Warriors.

Invisible Shiny Bulbasaur · May 24, 2014

MorbidAltruism said:
There are no other interesting subjects.

PROVE IT.

andimidna · May 24, 2014

MorbidAltruism said:
Isn't Fi the other Midna though? I mean; Ghirahim is much more prominent and pertinent to the story (than Zant), but he isn't an annoying companion.

I game with Ghirahim as the companion-role character would be awesome though!
Just imagine the hearts and batteries he'd have you look for!:

Morbi · May 24, 2014

skaaaa said:
I meant that he's like Zant in that they were both a puppet to the real main villain and won't be in another game. I also can not stand him. He's hella ugly and annoyed the hell out of me the moment i first saw him.

Ghirahim? Ugly? WAT?! He is fabulous, are you not aware? I have to admit, I was not a fan until much later.

Kenith · May 24, 2014

skaaaa said:
I meant that he's like Zant in that they were both a puppet to the real main villain and won't be in another game. I also can not stand him. He's hella ugly and annoyed the hell out of me the moment i first saw him.

See, now we see you are biased against him, now we can use that against you.

False Sense · May 24, 2014

MorbidAltruism said:
There are no other interesting subjects.

What about veterans who, by use of evidence from the game, we can essentially guarantee the return of? I have a small list in mind already.

Shagadelic_Baby · May 24, 2014

False Sense said:
What about veterans who, by use of evidence from the game, we can essentially guarantee the return of? I have a small list in mind already.

Pls. Please maik this. Vets interest me more than a Zelda newcomer or a FE newcomer at the moment.

praline · May 24, 2014

MorbidAltruism said:
Ghirahim? Ugly? WAT?! He is fabulous, are you not aware? I have to admit, I was not a fan until much later.

I finished the game. He annoyed me the entire run. He wasn't funny or anything. He was just gross.

Morbi · May 24, 2014

False Sense said:
What about veterans who, by use of evidence from the game, we can essentially guarantee the return of? I have a small list in mind already.

Captain Falcon?

KenithTheGatherer said:
See, now we see you are biased against him, now we can use that against you.

I hate it when that happens. I revealed my bias against R.O.B and Game & Watch and everyone hated me for a week (they probably still do).

Kenith · May 24, 2014

skaaaa said:
I finished the game. He annoyed me the entire run. He wasn't funny or anything. He was just gross.

I'm sorry, I didn't realize this was the unpopular opinion thread.

praline · May 24, 2014

KenithTheGatherer said:
See, now we see you are biased against him, now we can use that against you.

He's one of 3 characters I am completely against being playable.

Spinosaurus · May 24, 2014

Wario, Meta Knight, Ness, Lucas, Jigglypuff, ROB, Falco, Wolf, Game&Watch and Captain Falcon are guaranteed.

Confident Mewtwo is back as well.

Kenith · May 24, 2014

skaaaa said:
He's one of 3 characters I am completely against being playable.

Is one of the others Tharja?

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