Character Discussion Thread

[Andinus]

That is a completely arbitrary notion, one that Sakurai clearly adheres to. However, Project M managed to further declone Toon Link and he still feels like Link. They changed his jab to his WW combo, they gave him his dash attack and forward smash from Smash 64, and they returned his Fire Arrows (while adding effects to arrows and bombs). He is still pretty much feels the same, like Link, but he is an entirely new character.

They may feel the same, but I really don't like playing as beer gut link and would take a young or toon link over him any day.

 

[Morbi]

They may feel the same, but I really don't like playing as beer gut link and would take a young or toon link over him any day.

Are you referring to his ridiculous weight/fall-speed? I agree, it is unwarranted, it honestly feels as though he is heavier than adult Link.

 

[Sobreviviente]

I'm not saying Snake is impossible, but he did use military grade hardware where as everyone else uses sci-fi weapons like lasers.

Yes i know what are you saying, but is not really a big deal.

Snake doesnt use guns in first place because he is too realistic (at least thats my conclusion), if he was in brawl he wouldnt have any problem in smash4. I mean, the awesome of the character is how out of place he seems.

And yet sheik keep using those scary looking needles.

 

[Morbi]

Yes i know what are you saying, but is not really a big deal.

Snake doesnt use guns in first place because he is too realistic (at least thats my conclusion), if he was in brawl he wouldnt have any problem in smash4. I mean, the awesome of the character is how out of place he seems.

And yet sheik keep using those scary looking needles.

Sheik's "scary looking" needles are no where near comparable to rocket launchers in my opinion.

 

[GunGunW]

Yes i know what are you saying, but is not really a big deal.

Snake doesnt use guns in first place because he is too realistic (at least thats my conclusion), if he was in brawl he wouldnt have any problem in smash4. I mean, the awesome of the character is how out of place he seems.

And yet sheik keep using those scary looking needles.

Yeah, I'd love to see him come back as well.

 

[Sobreviviente]

Sheik's "scary looking" needles are no where near comparable to rocket launchers in my opinion.

RAWCKET LAUNCHERS!!!

mnah i only find his grenades out of place, even if when they bounce seems funny, it really feels odd.

 

[Morbi]

RAWCKET LAUNCHERS!!!

mnah i only find his grenades out of place, even if when they bounce seems funny, it really feels odd.

I don't find the RAWCKET LAUNCHER out of place, per se. The only move that seems out of place is his weird strangle/choke. It feels so very aggressive.

 

[Spinosaurus]

I don't find the RAWCKET LAUNCHER out of place, per se. The only move that seems out of place is his weird strangle/choke. It feels so very aggressive.

"Guns are inappropriate"

*Have Snake aggressively strangling characters from behind and choking them.*

 

[Bauske]

Before my past few months browsing Smash Boards, I never knew the amount of hatred for Pac-Man's new design. Being an avid Pac-Man fan, I've loved every design he's gone through, but the newest one is by far my favorite. He's got so much personality and he's so animated and adorable, but on Smash Boards, everyone says he's creepy and horrible and that they wanna barf looking at him. I just don't see it. I understand the appeal of classic Pac-Man. It was simple. He was a circle with a wedge cut out, and he ate everything. But that was basically it. He had no personality and no depth. He was literally a circle with a wedge cut out. But even back during the old arcade games, Pac-Man's true look was similar to what it is now. On the Japanese arcade machines, he had arms, legs, gloves, and boots, just like he does now. He has always been this way.

I dunno. Just personal opinions. I just don't see how this

has more personality and appeal than this.

*shruging forever*

That's all I really have left to add. I'll shut up about Pac-Man stuff now. xD

 

[Morbi]

Before my past few months browsing Smash Boards, I never knew the amount of hatred for Pac-Man's new design. Being an avid Pac-Man fan, I've loved every design he's gone through, but the newest one is by far my favorite. He's got so much personality and he's so animated and adorable, but on Smash Boards, everyone says he's creepy and horrible and that they wanna barf looking at him. I just don't see it. I understand the appeal of classic Pac-Man. It was simple. He was a circle with a wedge cut out, and he ate everything. But that was basically it. He had no personality and no depth. He was literally a circle with a wedge cut out. But even back during the old arcade games, Pac-Man's true look was similar to what it is now. On the Japanese arcade machines, he had arms, legs, gloves, and boots, just like he does now. He has always been this way.

I dunno. Just personal opinions. I just don't see how this

has more personality and appeal than this.

*shruging forever*

I'll shut up about Pac-Man stuff now. xD

I don't even mind his new design either; I suppose I was never really attached to Pac-Man though. I am more of a Ms. Pac-Man person. I would support Pac-Man if Ms. Pac-Man was an alternate costume.

 

[BluePikmin11]

The new Pac-Man design isn't that bad, I'm starting to warm up to it, it's just the voice is pretty bad.

 

[Deleted member]

The eyes man, the eyes....that smile too.

New Pac-Man gives me nightmares.

 

[Morbi]

The eyes man, the eyes....that smile too.

New Pac-Man gives me nightmares.

It only makes me want to have a serial killer match up, Villager vs. Pac-Man.

 

[FlareHabanero]

Before my past few months browsing Smash Boards, I never knew the amount of hatred for Pac-Man's new design. Being an avid Pac-Man fan, I've loved every design he's gone through, but the newest one is by far my favorite. He's got so much personality and he's so animated and adorable, but on Smash Boards, everyone says he's creepy and horrible and that they wanna barf looking at him. I just don't see it. I understand the appeal of classic Pac-Man. It was simple. He was a circle with a wedge cut out, and he ate everything. But that was basically it. He had no personality and no depth. He was literally a circle with a wedge cut out. But even back during the old arcade games, Pac-Man's true look was similar to what it is now. On the Japanese arcade machines, he had arms, legs, gloves, and boots, just like he does now. He has always been this way.

I dunno. Just personal opinions. I just don't see how this

has more personality and appeal than this.

*shruging forever*

That's all I really have left to add. I'll shut up about Pac-Man stuff now. xD

It's purely a nostalgia thing.

It's basically the same reason why apparently the classic version of Sonic is better then the modern version of Sonic.

 

[Sobreviviente]

I dunno. Just personal opinions. I just don't see how this

has more personality and appeal than this.

*shruging forever*

That's all I really have left to add. I'll shut up about Pac-Man stuff now. xD

- The arcade hero that changes the world, excellent gameplay mechanics and simple goals, eats death people just for fun and always has a smile on his face.

- Generic explorer character with a hat.


I personally think less is more in some cases, like megaman having robotic and almost unexpresive gestures, packman will work tremendously great by just being an "awesome face" with limbs.

 

[Bauske]

The eyes man, the eyes....that smile too.

New Pac-Man gives me nightmares.

People are creeped out by weird things. xD There's a cute, yellow happy face with bright blue eyes and you're scared of it. ;p

 

[Will]

Before my past few months browsing Smash Boards, I never knew the amount of hatred for Pac-Man's new design. Being an avid Pac-Man fan, I've loved every design he's gone through, but the newest one is by far my favorite. He's got so much personality and he's so animated and adorable, but on Smash Boards, everyone says he's creepy and horrible and that they wanna barf looking at him. I just don't see it. I understand the appeal of classic Pac-Man. It was simple. He was a circle with a wedge cut out, and he ate everything. But that was basically it. He had no personality and no depth. He was literally a circle with a wedge cut out. But even back during the old arcade games, Pac-Man's true look was similar to what it is now. On the Japanese arcade machines, he had arms, legs, gloves, and boots, just like he does now. He has always been this way.

I dunno. Just personal opinions. I just don't see how this

has more personality and appeal than this.

*shruging forever*

That's all I really have left to add. I'll shut up about Pac-Man stuff now. xD

Old-School Pac-Mis an iconic figure mostly recognized for it's shape,for both new and old gamers.

Also,if you really want to be creeped,imagine 3D Modern Pac-Man dying like in the original games.

shudders

 

[FlareHabanero]

People are creeped out by weird things. xD There's a cute, yellow happy face with bright blue eyes and you're scared of it. ;p

Probably an uncanny valley feeling after people have been used to the old design used for games like Pac-Man World.

 

[Phaazoid]

Before my past few months browsing Smash Boards, I never knew the amount of hatred for Pac-Man's new design. Being an avid Pac-Man fan, I've loved every design he's gone through, but the newest one is by far my favorite. He's got so much personality and he's so animated and adorable, but on Smash Boards, everyone says he's creepy and horrible and that they wanna barf looking at him. I just don't see it. I understand the appeal of classic Pac-Man. It was simple. He was a circle with a wedge cut out, and he ate everything. But that was basically it. He had no personality and no depth. He was literally a circle with a wedge cut out. But even back during the old arcade games, Pac-Man's true look was similar to what it is now. On the Japanese arcade machines, he had arms, legs, gloves, and boots, just like he does now. He has always been this way.

I dunno. Just personal opinions. I just don't see how this

has more personality and appeal than this.

*shruging forever*

That's all I really have left to add. I'll shut up about Pac-Man stuff now. xD

the disney XD logo on that other pic isn't helping your case

 

[Pacack]

Before my past few months browsing Smash Boards, I never knew the amount of hatred for Pac-Man's new design. Being an avid Pac-Man fan, I've loved every design he's gone through, but the newest one is by far my favorite. He's got so much personality and he's so animated and adorable, but on Smash Boards, everyone says he's creepy and horrible and that they wanna barf looking at him. I just don't see it. I understand the appeal of classic Pac-Man. It was simple. He was a circle with a wedge cut out, and he ate everything. But that was basically it. He had no personality and no depth. He was literally a circle with a wedge cut out. But even back during the old arcade games, Pac-Man's true look was similar to what it is now. On the Japanese arcade machines, he had arms, legs, gloves, and boots, just like he does now. He has always been this way.

I dunno. Just personal opinions. I just don't see how this

has more personality and appeal than this.

*shruging forever*

I'll shut up about Pac-Man stuff now. xD

I can actually explain this with a bit of psychology.

When something looks similar to a human, it is subconsciously judged to be "cute" or "creepy". Normally, if something has features similar to a baby, it is considered "cute". If it has features similar to a predator, it's considered "creepy". (It's more complicated than that, but bear with me.)

See this guy? Cute, isn't he? He has big eyes, a small mouth, a round head, and a tiny nose. All of these are things that babies have too.

See this guy? He's kinda creepy, isn't he? Well, he has small eyes, a big nose, sharp teeth, claws, and horns. All of these are things that potential predators have.

(This is just the basic gist of it. It's a little more complicated than that, and I only showed the opposite sides of the spectrum, but that's the general rule.)

Now, the line that we draw between "cute" and "creepy" is not the same from person to person. One person may consider something "cute" and another may consider it "creepy".

Look at this. It has big eyes, a small "nose", and a rounded head. Those are all things that should make it "cute".

However, it also has talons, a sharp beak, disheveled feathers (if something looks disheveled, it's more likely to carry desease), and it's hunched over. Those are all things that should make it "creepy".

Some people will think this bird is cute, and others will not.


Still with me? Good. Well, let's look at Pac-Man's designs.

This Pac-Man has big, black eyes, a big, smiling mouth, a small nose, and overall soft, rounded features. This Pac-Man is almost always considered "cute" to some degree due to its simplicity.

In Pac-Man's more recent appearance, he has been given more details in his design and appears more human than he did before. While he has everything he had before, he is also paler, has noticeable hands, emotive eyes, a larger mouth, and a larger nose.

Some would argue that he's still cute and loveable. Others, however, would argue that the added details make him look disproportionate and creepy. He straddles the subjective line between cute and creepy that humans subconsciously draw.

That's why the design is so controversial. Pure human psychology.


Sincerely,

Professor Pacack, Amateur Psychologist

 

[DustyPumpkin]

The eyes man, the eyes....that smile too.

New Pac-Man gives me nightmares.

Didn't you see the one in Street Fighter VS Tekken, He barely talked had a screepy stare, and I'm pretty sure it was implied he ate his opponents, and then the ending!

 

[Will]

For Pac-Man,it's really Sakurai's choice. A yes or no.

50% chance.

 

[Gingerbread Man]

I suppose it's also worth bringing up the uncanny valley

As things look more human like, we tend to enjoy them more. But as soon as they are too human like, things that make them not fully human seem off-putting to us and creepy even. Even if pac-man is a cartoonish character, it may still benefit him to keep to the left of this chart.

 

[Deleted member]

People are creeped out by weird things. xD There's a cute, yellow happy face with bright blue eyes and you're scared of it. ;p

I've seen weird stuff man, but Pac-Man with a creepy smile & pupils for his eyes are icing on the cake! But thats OK....I didn't need any sleep anyway! Who needs it!

 

[Will]

Look at this. It has big eyes, a small "nose", and a rounded head. Those are all things that should make it "cute".

However, it also has talons, a sharp beak, disheveled feathers (if something looks disheveled, it's more likely to carry desease), and it's hunched over. Those are all things that should make it "creepy".

Some people will think this bird is cute, and others will not.

I can't even.....
this should be a new word to describe things like these.

Creute.
What? It's all I got.

EDIT : Wait,did you just get that picture,or did you keep that for an occasion like this?

 

[Phaazoid]

I can't even.....
this should be a new word to describe things like these.

Creute.
What? It's all I got.

EDIT : Wait,did you just get that picture,or did you keep that for an occasion like this?

Little birdie

/moreridleyjokes

 

[Gingerbread Man]

hmmm...

 

[Autumn ♫]

I personally think less is more in some cases, like megaman having robotic and almost unexpresive gestures, packman will work tremendously great by just being an "awesome face" with limbs.

So like this?
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Anyways, I prefer this Pac-Man over all others

 

[Sobreviviente]

he is also paler, has noticeable hands, emotive eyes, a larger mouth, and a larger nose.

lets try out.

whoa is true.

EDIT: @Gingerbread Man i got ninjaed D:

 

[Headcrab Jackalope]

My only problem with the new Pac-Man design is the eyebrows. Get rid of those and I'd adore it.

 

[Will]

My only problem with the new Pac-Man design is the eyebrows. Get rid of those and I'd adore it.

So those triangular bumps are just going to sit there?

 

[Pacack]

I can't even.....
this should be a new word to describe things like these.

Creute.
What? It's all I got.

EDIT : Wait,did you just get that picture,or did you keep that for an occasion like this?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=creute

You're not the only one who thinks so

And I just looked for a suitable example. I'd seen it before and it came to mind.

My only problem with the new Pac-Man design is the eyebrows. Get rid of those and I'd adore it.

This better? He actually uses the eyebrows, so they disappear for some expressions (unlike the Ghostly Adventures' kitty ears).

 

[Starcutter]

Oh hey, still arguing about Pacman?


I have somewhere to go to, I'll be back in a couple hours.


EDIT: Fixed for clarification.

 

[Kenith]

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=creute

You're not the only one who thinks so

And I just looked for a suitable example. I'd seen it before and it came to mind.

This better? He actually uses the eyebrows, so they disappear for some expressions (unlike the Ghostly Adventures' kitty ears).

It's perfect. I love his Party design to pieces, actually.
It's suble, but a million times better than the one from Ghostly Adventures.

 

[Glyphoscythe]

Those eyebrows remind me of that Seinfeld episode where Uncle Leo gets his drawn on with a marker.

Oh right, characters...

So I don't really know much about pac man's modern stuff. What weight class would he be?

 

[SegaNintendoUbisoft]

Also,if you really want to be creeped,imagine 3D Modern Pac-Man dying like in the original games.

shudders

I was so curious on what that would look like, I made this.

Good GOD, that is creepy.

 

[Pacack]

Those eyebrows remind me of that Seinfeld episode where Uncle Leo gets his drawn on with a marker.

Oh right, characters...

So I don't really know much about pac man's modern stuff. What weight class would he be?

In the Mario Kart Arcade GP series, Pac-Man is Middleweight. I imagine it'd be the same in Smash.

 

[Glyphoscythe]

In the Mario Kart Arcade GP series, Pac-Man is Middleweight. I imagine it'd be the same in Smash.

Yeah that seems reasonable to me. I could see him being around Mario's weight.

Honestly I'm not too worried about his appearance in Smash, if/when he shows up. I think all of the characters look fine so far, so I don't see why the pac-attack would look creepy or terrible.

 

[Kenith]

All this talk of Pacman redesigns has motivated me to take the Pacman from Pac-Man Party and give him a black eye.

Literally.

 

[Pacack]

All this talk of Pacman redesigns has motivated me to take the Pacman from Pac-Man Party and give him a black eye.
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Literally.

Eh...I preferred him before, actually.