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StormC

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The thing is, I can already picture with pretty good imagery what Dixie would look and play like.

I can't say the same for K. Rool. The idea of the character receiving the HD treatment with a moveset that could shake out a different dozen ways - that's much more exciting.

also deserves it more adds more variety to the game yadda yadda yadda
 
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The thing is, I can already picture with pretty good imagery what Dixie would look and play like.

I can't say the same for K. Rool. The idea of the character receiving the HD treatment with a moveset that could shake out a different dozen ways - that's much more exciting.

also deserves it more adds more variety to the game yadda yadda yadda
You got a point there.
 

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I always envisioned K. Rool as some sort of stance changer as a way to incorporate his alter egos. As in, press a button to gain access to different attacks.

And I don't mean something like whole transformations like the PT. I'm thinking an evolution on how Samus can change beam types in Project M.


Sounds a bit complicated, but then again, so is Ryu, so... :psycho:
 
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I would take dixie over krool always. Every. Single. Time.

But i would take k rool over neither. Still dissapointed neither character was on the base roster :/
 

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Dixie= Diddy semiclone. I'm sorry I can't see it any other way.

Villains before sidekicks, series wise, sidekicks don't really mean anything if there's no one to fight.
 

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Dixie= Diddy semiclone. I'm sorry I can't see it any other way.

Villains before sidekicks, series wise, sidekicks don't really mean anything if there's no one to fight.
I disagree, as long as the Sidekicks are important enough, they get in. And plus, K. Rool isn't important to DK anymore. :/
 

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Dixie= Diddy semiclone. I'm sorry I can't see it any other way.

Villains before sidekicks, series wise, sidekicks don't really mean anything if there's no one to fight.
Historically, it has always been the other way around in Smash. Luigi got in before Bowser, Falco got in before Wolf and Diddy got in before King K. Rool. Doesn't matter, as long as the sidekick is important enough and the villain ultimately gets in.
 

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Dixie= Diddy semiclone. I'm sorry I can't see it any other way.

Villains before sidekicks, series wise, sidekicks don't really mean anything if there's no one to fight.
The Diddy semi clone benefits Dixie more. That means that she can be inserted and worked with easily. K. Rool has to deal with a new model, original animations and brand new moveset.


Which isn't bad but is something that Dixie which she would be easily implemented
 

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Historically, it has always been the other way around in Smash. Luigi got in before Bowser, Falco got in before Wolf and Diddy got in before King K. Rool. Doesn't matter, as long as the sidekick is important enough and the villain ultimately gets in.
And Zelda/Sheik before Ganondorf, he was just added as a last minute clone.
 

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At this point, I really feel like they should put in more villains. I mean, at the moment, there's only three, four tops (Bowser, Bowser Junior, Ganondorf, and maybe Dedede), which is kind of ridiculous in a game where the roster is getting close to sixty characters. It's not like Nintendo has a shortage of villains to draw from, so the fact that barely any have been included is just odd.
 

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To be exact, Dixie was never planned as her own character, but as an Ice Climber-esque duo with Diddy. The fact that Sakurai tossed her after deciding to do solo-Diddy says something.
 

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I disagree, as long as the Sidekicks are important enough, they get in. And plus, K. Rool isn't important to DK anymore. :/
K Rool has only missed 2 games. Both of these were ones developed by a new developer (Retro Studios), whose president is following the "Bring Back K Rool" movement on Twitter. He may be out of action for the minute, but how long do you expect that to be the case? I'll be shocked if, after all this, he still doesn't make it to the next game. Also, Dixie missed DK64 and DKCR, two main series games in a row (with 4 if you include King of Swing and Jungle Climber). Were it not for Tropical Freeze she'd be in exactly the same place as K Rool.

To my mind K Rool is still important to DK because of how important it is to DK's fans. Nintendo will be hard pressed to ignore that fact after all this as well. All this said I don't want to sit here and try badmouth Dixie to get a point across. Both characters stand on their own merits and both deserve a spot on the roster.
 

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Wouldn't you guys rather see more original characters than another Diddy Kong with hair?
I personally would, even though implementing Dixie would be easy, I would rather the villain that made the series possible. I'm not bad mouthing Dixie but I look at her as I look at all fictional works. Other than the protagonist the only other character that is truly important to the work is the antagonist. Even though Rool hasn't made an appearance in a while he still is regarded as the main antagonist of the series.
 
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Wouldn't you guys rather see more original characters than another Diddy Kong with hair?
Wouldn't you guys rather see more original characters than a Ness with blonde Elvis hair, a silver Fox, fire red-headed Marth or a Mario with a PHD

I want a fun character who has been a major part of a franchise and Dixie Kong, the girl with the whirl, is one of them.

Plus she would be super interesting as well despite being a clone
 

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Wouldn't you guys rather see more original characters than another Diddy Kong with hair?
I would absolutely LOVE to see Dixie Kong, I really really would. I just want K. Rool first. If there's any chance of getting both of them I'd take it.
 
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I always envisioned K. Rool as some sort of stance changer as a way to incorporate his alter egos. As in, press a button to gain access to different attacks.

And I don't mean something like whole transformations like the PT. I'm thinking an evolution on how Samus can change beam types in Project M.


Sounds a bit complicated, but then again, so is Ryu, so... :psycho:
That would be nice to see although if we see both his DKC2 and DKC3 alter ego used there should be a way to switch back to the King K. Rool to Kaptain K. Rool (and vice versa) and the King K. Rool to Baron K. Roolenstein (and vice versa) so that with the latter we don't have to go through Kaptain K. Rool to get to Baron. I'd be find with sacrificing a couple of taunts for this.
 

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That would be nice to see although if we see both his DKC2 and DKC3 alter ego used there should be a way to switch back to the King K. Rool to Kaptain K. Rool (and vice versa) and the King K. Rool to Baron K. Roolenstein (and vice versa) so that with the latter we don't have to go through Kaptain K. Rool to get to Baron. I'd be find with sacrificing a couple of taunts for this.
I don't see it happening except as alts, but that's just me.
 

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When K rool does get in I hope he gets the Wario treatment and all of his costumes are available.

The King
The Pirate
The Mad scientist
The Boxer
The Aviator
 
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Er, Wario only had 2 variations and had a moveset that had almost 0 things from the games he's in, I don't want that
You took it too literally...

I just meant I want him to have alternate costumes. And Wario was the first character to have alternate costumes, thus when referring to costumes I called it the "Wario treatment"
 
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Er, Wario only had 2 variations and had a moveset that had almost 0 things from the games he's in, I don't want that
I think he just means the fact he was the first to have an alternate costume. Edit::4greninja:
 
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Courtesy of @Thelimomon, yet another great reason to support K. Rool. I don't think he'd get all of his personas as costumes, but when it's such a major part of the character, I think you could expect to see at least Kaptain in the mix.
 
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Courtesy of @Thelimomon, yet another great reason to support K. Rool. I don't think he'd get all of his personas as costumes, but when it's such a major part of the character, I think you could expect to see at least Kaptain in the mix.
That's fine the Kaptain is my favorite anyway.
 

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At this point, I really feel like they should put in more villains. I mean, at the moment, there's only three, four tops (Bowser, Bowser Junior, Ganondorf, and maybe Dedede), which is kind of ridiculous in a game where the roster is getting close to sixty characters. It's not like Nintendo has a shortage of villains to draw from, so the fact that barely any have been included is just odd.
Well for possible villains we have: (Spoiler cuz it's long)
:4mario:King Boo. Any other villains only appear once, or twice because there is a remake.
:4wario:Captain Syrup.
:4gaw:Nothing
:4dk:King K. Rool.
:4link:Ganon. Again. (Although people want Vaati so maybe him...)
:4samus:Ridley, Sylux.
:4pit:Hades, Medusa.
:4marth:I have no idea, but I think the villains change every time so unless there is a fan favorite...
:4kirby:Magolor (Because fans), Dark Matter. Anyone else only appears once because they are dead after fighting Kirby. lol
:4littlemac:I don't think there are any villains in PUNCH OUT!!!
:4fox:Wolf. Unless human Andros becomes popular that's it.
:4pikachu:Enemy teams. Not very likely, as they are Pokémon Trainers.
:4duckhunt:No bad guys in Duck Hunt.
:4rob:It's a toy. There are no bad guys.
:4ness:Porkey, Gigas.
:4falcon:I don't know. I think...Black Shadow?
:4villager:Villager is the only bad guy There are no bad guys in Animal Crossing.
:4olimar:There aren't really any bad guys in Pikmin, just aggressive wildlife.
:4wiifit:No bad guys here. Just guys that are bad at Wii Fit.
:4shulk:Metal Face (Who wouldn't really work as a fighter), any others (Including the form of Metal Face that would work as a fighter.) are major spoilers.
:4pacman:the ghosts. They would make people rage.
:4megaman:Millions of choices, but any one of them make fans rage. (Unless it was Toad Man. :awesome:)
:4sonic:Dr. Eggman, Shadow, Metal Sonic. I don't think they will be included.
:4ryu:Probably lots of choices, but I think we are getting all of the Street Fighter characters we are going to get.
There aren't really any likely villains except King K. Rool. (And maybe Magolor for future instalments of the game.)
 
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Well for possible villains we have: (Spoiler cuz it's long)
:4mario:King Boo. Any other villains only appear once, or twice because there is a remake.
:4wario:Captain Syrup.
:4gaw:Nothing
:4dk:King K. Rool.
:4link:Ganon. Again. (Although people want Vaati so maybe him...)
:4samus:Ridley, Sylux.
:4pit:Hades, Medusa.
:4marth:I have no idea, but I think the villains change every time so unless there is a fan favorite...
:4kirby:Magolor (Because fans), Dark Matter. Anyone else only appears once because they are dead after fighting Kirby. lol
:4littlemac:I don't think there are any villains in PUNCH OUT!!!
:4fox:Wolf. Unless human Andros becomes popular that's it.
:4pikachu:Enemy teams. Not very likely, as they are Pokémon Trainers.
:4duckhunt:No bad guys in Duck Hunt.
:4rob:It's a toy. There are no bad guys.
:4ness:Porkey, Gigas.
:4falcon:I don't know. I think...Black Shadow?
:4villager:Villager is the only bad guy There are no bad guys in Animal Crossing.
:4olimar:There aren't really any bad guys in Pikmin, just aggressive wildlife.
:4wiifit:No bad guys here. Just guys that are bad at Wii Fit.
:4shulk:Metal Face (Who wouldn't really work as a fighter), any others (Including the form of Metal Face that would work as a fighter.) are major spoilers.
:4pacman:the ghosts. They would make people rage.
:4megaman:Millions of choices, but any one of them make fans rage. (Unless it was Toad Man. :awesome:)
:4sonic:Dr. Eggman, Shadow, Metal Sonic. I don't think they will be included.
:4ryu:Probably lots of choices, but I think we are getting all of the Street Fighter characters we are going to get.
There aren't really any likely villains except King K. Rool. (And maybe Magolor for future instalments of the game.)
Fawful appears multiple times, as does Petey Piranha.
King Boo on this list without his Double Dash partner is just egh.

I'm also the owner of the Ghost Gang thread btw, in the Predefined Role Character Support Forums
 
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Wouldn't you guys rather see more original characters than another Diddy Kong with hair?
I like dixie. I dont care much for K rool. So no i dont.

And ill reiterate dixie is in a weird position. She could be a clone super easily but she could be totally unique super easily as well. It would all be based on what sakurai would decide

courtesy of @VeemonTamer i believe.
 
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Fawful appears multiple times, as does Petey Piranha.
King Boo on this list without his Double Dash partner is just egh.

I'm also the owner of the Ghost Gang thread btw, in the Predefined Role Character Support Forums
Forgot about those two. If a Mario & Luigi character were to join Smash, it would probably be Fawful. I don't see Petey Piranha being able to work well in Smash though. I mean, I guess it could work, but I don't think he should have too much to do with King Boo as far as movesets, as King Boo can be really unique on his own.

I still don't think the ghosts would be positively received by the majority of smash fans.
 

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If a Mario & Luigi character were to join Smash, it would probably be Paper Mario. :troll:
 

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Forgot about those two. If a Mario & Luigi character were to join Smash, it would probably be Fawful. I don't see Petey Piranha being able to work well in Smash though. I mean, I guess it could work, but I don't think he should have too much to do with King Boo as far as movesets, as King Boo can be really unique on his own.

I still don't think the ghosts would be positively received by the majority of smash fans.
King Boo is too big, and so is Petey:troll:
 
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For Pac-Man there's always Spooky.

He uses his staff for attacks primarily.
 
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