Character Discussion Thread

[PK_Knee]

If a Mario & Luigi character were to join Smash, it would probably be Paper Mario.

Well played, Well played.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

For Pac-Man there's always Spooky.

Spoiler

He uses his staff for attacks primarily.

Never seen him. When did he appear? He looks cool.

 

[Schnee117]

Never seen him. When did he appear? He looks cool.

Pac-Man World 2.
Was also in a racing spin-off as a Heavyweight.

 

[aldelaro5]

If a Mario & Luigi character were to join Smash, it would probably be Paper Mario.

Except he isn't an m&l character

It's like baby mario, I would more classify as a yoshy character, but he appears in m&l

(also, I know it was sarcasm, just making fun of it).

 

[Deleted member]

I like dixie. I dont care much for K rool. So no i dont.

And ill reiterate dixie is in a weird position. She could be a clone super easily but she could be totally unique super easily as well. It would all be based on what sakurai would decide

Spoiler: a super well drawn moveset

courtesy of @VeemonTamer i believe.

Kudos for this Down-B.

 

[StormC]

Villains are great to have but how many recurring, important Nintendo villains are there after K. Ridley that are feasible fighters?

 

[PK_Knee]

Villains are great to have but how many recurring, important Nintendo villains are there after K. Ridley that are feasible fighters?

Tom Nook Maybe?

 

[Kenith]

Villains are great to have but how many recurring, important Nintendo villains are there after K. Ridley that are feasible fighters?

Wolf from Starfox?

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

King Boo is too big, and so is Petey

King Boo was never bigger than Bowser (at normal/playable size.), but I do think Petey Piranha would be a little awkward as a smasher.

Villains are great to have but how many recurring, important Nintendo villains are there after K. Ridley that are feasible fighters?

King Boo would be unique (Nobody would want him, but he would be unique.), um...That's kinda it.

Wolf from Starfox?

I never considered him as a villain. But then again I haven't played Starfox.

 

[JaidynReiman]

Wolf from Starfox?

People tend not to count Wolf too much as a villain. Technically he's really just a hired mercenary, and in later games (Assault and Command) he barely counts as a villain at all, more of an anti-hero.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

I'v been wondering..Who does Japan currently want? This is something we shouldn't ignore, they want K.Rool, but they probably won't vote for Robin*

*Robin is Isaac's Japanese name for those who don't know

 

[StormC]

Wolf from Starfox?

Well, besides characters already in the series.

I'd consider Wolf a villain as much as Dedede (especially with becoming an antagonist again in Star Fox Zero), though.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

There aren't really any bad guys in Pikmin, just aggressive wildlife.

There is in fact a villain in Pikmin, one who even had a support thread here

Plasm Wraith

 

[N3ON]

I'd really like to see a current standing of character popularity in Japan. The last one was very interesting but it was from prior to the ballot.

 

[PK_Knee]

Villains are great to have but how many recurring, important Nintendo villains are there after K. Ridley that are feasible fighters?

Black Shadow from F-Zero?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

There is in fact a villain in Pikmin, one who even had a support thread here

Plasm Wraith

First of all, UPUPUPUPU!
Second, couldn't Louie also be considered a villain?

 

[DustyPumpkin]

Courtesy of @Thelimomon, yet another great reason to support K. Rool. I don't think he'd get all of his personas as costumes, but when it's such a major part of the character, I think you could expect to see at least Kaptain in the mix.

THrow in the Pharaoh costume and the unused Pilot costume and we nearly have 8

 

[StormC]

Black Shadow from F-Zero?

And the only thing people can think of for him is taking Ganondorf's moveset.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Xenoblade Chronicles New 3DS bundle released in Europe today. Shulk confirmed! Wait a tic...

 

[DustyPumpkin]

First of all, UPUPUPUPU!
Second, couldn't Louie also be considered a villain?

 

[False Sense]

Xenoblade Chronicles New 3DS bundle released in Europe today. Shulk confirmed! Wait a tic...

Some might argue that makes a second Xenoblade rep that much more likely.

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

There is in fact a villain in Pikmin, one who even had a support thread here

Plasm Wraith

I don't think it really counts. It seems to me like it's just a wild creature with maternal instincts.

 

[Senatiator]

https://sourcegaming.wordpress.com/2015/06/26/800/
There were none. We basically thought of all the characters at the start of development. We decided on characters we knew we could make. However, there were a few in consideration, such as Heihachi from “Tekken.” That’s right. However, implementing Heihachi’s movement in Smash would be difficult…

Now we'll never reenact Street Fighter x Tekken exactly.
He should have played Playstation All-Stars Battle Royale for inspiration.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

He was the final boss iirc. don't like posts with just a media clip, so I recommend typing stuff aswell

 

[FalKoopa]

Villains are great to have but how many recurring, important Nintendo villains are there after K. Ridley that are feasible fighters?

Let's make a list with the villains of each series

(Bold indicates who I think is viable.)

• - Basically fully covered with Bowser, Bowser Jr., and the Koopalings
• - Ganon is brought up, but there's the identity issue.
• - King K. Rool, of course.
• - Ridley, although Sakurai gave his reasons.
• - There's Hades and Medusa, but the less said about another KI character, the better.
• - Doesn't have a single, notable villain.
• - Dark Matter is the overarching villain, who keeps getting shout-outs in the games, and has a sword form, which can be considered viable.
• - King Hippo's there, and arguably Donkey Kong, though the franchise probably won't get a new character unless it gets more games.
• - Wolf, even if he technically isn't, still fills the same niche.
• - Porky may be considered un-viable given his boss appearance in Brawl. This pains me as a Porky fan.
• - Black Shadow is viable, while Samurai Goroh is not, being an AT. If a new F-Zero ever comes out, I think Samurai Goroh will be chosen for his seniority.
• - No viable villain.
• - No villains whatsoever, strictly speaking.

 

[Schnee117]

Some might argue that makes a second Xenoblade rep that much more likely.

It'll finally be Reyn time.

 

[DustyPumpkin]

I don't think it really counts. It seems to me like it's just a wild creature with maternal instincts.

It is definitely a Villain from the characters perspective
Also a the most annoying thing to fight

 

[Cutie Gwen]

• - Ganon is brought up, but there's the identity issue.

I doubt this is a problem as we have Mario and Mario with a different outfit as seperate characters, not to mention Lucas and Mewtwo have regular trophies in the base game

 

[False Sense]

• - No villains whatsoever, strictly speaking.

How can you forget Tom Nook and his never-ending debt? Clearly a villain.

 

[StormC]

Ganon and Medusa are fairly plausible for 5mash if they appear between now and then.

Other than that? Mostly characters who haven't appeared in years. Characters who have appeared less recently than K. Rool with less history with their own franchises (though Dark Matter comes close, even if he only takes the sword form once).

 

[SMAASH! Puppy]

• - Basically fully covered with Bowser, Bowser Jr., and the Koopalings

You forgot King Boo. (Probably not popular enough. He didn't even get into Mario Kart 8. )

 

[DustyPumpkin]

He was the final boss iirc. don't like posts with just a media clip, so I recommend typing stuff aswell

Oh Sorry, he may or may not have hijacked the final boss's brain yeah but he's more a ass than he is a full on vilain

 

[FalKoopa]

How can you forget Tom Nook and his never-ending debt? Clearly a villain.

That's why I said 'Strictly speaking'.

Although moneylenders are often shady.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

That's why I said 'Strictly speaking'.

Although moneylenders are often shady.

In New Leaf he stops constantly giving you debt. You feel like you need more and are drawn back to him for more loans. He's great, heard he busts kneecaps very, very well too

 

[YoshiandToad]

It's times like this I really wish Vaati had returned a few more times: Four Swords, Four Swords Adventures and the Minish Cap was a great start, I'd of really liked him to keep being a reoccurring villain in the Toon Zelda series.

(fingers crossed he's the villain of that new Four Swords game that dropped Purple Link and is now pretending to not be a Four Swords game, but totally is)

 

[Wintropy]

Fire Emblem's most notable villain, if only due to popularity amongst the fanbase, would be the Black Knight.

Spoiler

Even so, it's debatable if Zeligus / the Black Knight is really a villain or merely an anti-hero with extreme methods. The actual villain of Path of Radiance is Mad King Ashnard, and the villain of Radiant Dawn changes so often it's difficult to keep track of 'em all, though it finally culminates in Sephiran being revealed as the main antagonist and Goddess Ashera as the final boss.

Incidentally, you could argue that Robin is a villain. Do recall the Tactician's heritage and how this ties into the climactic fight~

 

[PK_Knee]

How can you forget Tom Nook and his never-ending debt? Clearly a villain.

Agreed. You are a genius.

 

[Kenith]

It's times like this I really wish Vaati had returned a few more times: Four Swords, Four Swords Adventures and the Minish Cap was a great start, I'd of really liked him to keep being a reoccurring villain in the Toon Zelda series.
(fingers crossed he's the villain of that new Four Swords game that dropped Purple Link and is now pretending to not be a Four Swords game, but totally is)

This...but with Ghirahim. Maybe they had to delay Zelda Wii U for sdo long because they needed time to make Ghirahim's model extra fabulous.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Fire Emblem's most notable villain, if only due to popularity amongst the fanbase, would be the Black Knight.

Spoiler

Even so, it's debatable if Zeligus / the Black Knight is really a villain or merely an anti-hero with extreme methods. The actual villain of Path of Radiance is Mad King Ashnard, and the villain of Radiant Dawn changes so often it's difficult to keep track of 'em all, though it finally culminates in Sephiran being revealed as the main antagonist and Goddess Ashera as the final boss.

Incidentally, you could argue that Robin is a villain. Do recall the Tactician's heritage and how this ties into the climactic fight~

Here's a problem with Black Knight though. He's supposed to be stronger than Ike, yet...How can you have a stronger and heavier Ike? He's already uberstrong and very heavy

 

[False Sense]

Fire Emblem's most notable villain, if only due to popularity amongst the fanbase, would be the Black Knight.

Spoiler

Even so, it's debatable if Zeligus / the Black Knight is really a villain or merely an anti-hero with extreme methods. The actual villain of Path of Radiance is Mad King Ashnard, and the villain of Radiant Dawn changes so often it's difficult to keep track of 'em all, though it finally culminates in Sephiran being revealed as the main antagonist and Goddess Ashera as the final boss.

Incidentally, you could argue that Robin is a villain. Do recall the Tactician's heritage and how this ties into the climactic fight~

[collapse=Awakening spoilers]Honestly, I think Robin is the closest thing we're going to get to a real Fire Emblem villain. While still inherently good, Robin does serve as the ultimate antagonist and final boss of Awakening due to Grima. This is even reflected in Robin's Smash portrayal to a degree through his/her use of dark magic.

Since the Fire Emblem series is always changing its cast of characters, I doubt Smash would ever invest so heavily in one installment that we'd get the game's villain. Robin's probably the best we'll get in that regard.[/collapse]