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That's fine. I don't think her role holds her back, I just think it's reasonable to have someone other than Palutena because more combat-focused characters exist in the Kid Icarus world.
Isn't Pit already "Kid Icarus"?
Actually, no.
No, he isn't. It's just a stupid English name they chose for the title...
Just to clarify, that wasn't my argument, and I don't think anyone has brought that argument up.
well, every character I support can fight, so I'm just fine.
I hear Palutena is modeled after Narcissus.
It would only hold water if we never got examples contradicting that notion.
That... that doesn't even make any sense?! All newcomers confirmed for scrapped?!
No Hermes? I always thought of him as kind of Hermish.
Sehnsucht
I didn't realize until now that the word "hermaphrodite" is based off of Greek mythology. That's kinda cool, actually. 
That does sound familiar... Maybe it was something along the lines of "Ridley was never planned for Super Smash Bros., so why would he be in now?"
That wouldn't work, considering, again, we have examples of characters being promoted.
Ooh, I'm going to use that. Not that it will stop Ridley haters from making up another dumb reason he's impossible.
And Diddy, who didn't even have a trophy in Melee.
I find the best way to look at Palutena is through her popularity as a potential candidate. For one reason or another (For the sake of this response, let's ignore those reasons), she is one of the most popular. It would be quite insulting to the many that support her to not only not get the most popular choice, but get another character. Sakurai wanting to not look like he's biased is one thing, but getting Medusa, Dark Pit, what-have-you shows that it wasn't bias at all. Not getting Palutena while getting somebody else would be a big slap to the face to her large amount of supporters. While that could be said about any character getting in and another not getting in, this is different. Because Palutena is that popular, while most of the other Kid Icarus characters aren't by comparison. Heck, I mostly support her because I know a lot of people do. I want to see them happy. That and I think she could be very interesting moveset-wise.@Dinoman96
Now that, I did remember.
...I guess I felt like the fact Palutena isn't physically there makes a difference. Zelda and Palutena do play very similar roles, but Palutena is able to help Pit without the need of being on the actual battlefield (unlike Zelda). And we already see this in SSB with Pit's Final Smash.
So again, while I do agree Palutena is the obvious second Kid Icarus character, I still stand by the opinion that an alternative character, like Medusa or Hades, as characters we do see on the actual battlefield of Kid Icarus games, are acceptable alternative characters.
If the Kid Icarus games offer us a plethora of characters who like to fight, why is the obvious choice for SSB the one who doesn't?
Smash4 confirmed to have no newcomers.
Actually, I made the Toadsworth Support Thread.
Yep, which would explain her relationship with Medusa. Unlike Athena though, Palutena loves to troll.
I know I have, it's still used from time to time on other forums despite how many counterexamples exists that are either playable (Little Mac, Charizard) or wanted (pretty much any other newcomer).
AH, I know where I heard this!
Huh, I guess so.
Don't worry, I got Dr. Mario right here in case anyone gets sick.
Precisely. The limitations of our own imaginations are not set in stone, so a subjective statement like "this specific character would be boring" is simply not a fact. Any of those three can be made just as interesting, if not more interesting than Rosalina.
He didn't? Well, you helped me alot with Vaati counter-arguments today.
I think it has to do with people thinking too strictly with staying in character and staying in canon. The part people are however failing to realize is that Super Smash Bros. does not play by the same rules as the original series, as such you cannot stay with the same mind set. Hence why I try to encourage people to think from the design of a game designer, where you're presented with a character and you basically have to give it them a playstyle using conventions of design.
Maaaaaybe. Not sure what context you're using it for, BUT...Melee was released in 2001, Vaati was created in 2002.He didn't? Well, you helped me alot with Vaati counter-arguments today.
I was going to use it against the Vaati didn't have any stickers/trophies in Brawl argument.
But not as worse as "Impossible 'cause he/she's a god/goddess".
Trophies in Melee are close enough to Zelda stickers in Brawl since all of the Zelda trophies in Brawl were WW or TPThat's workable.
But you know...
Melee didn't have stickers.
Certainly, I can agree with that. I think as far as importance goes Medusa could easily get over her.
Back then Diddy was irrelevant. OLD NEWSThat's workable.
But you know...
Melee didn't have stickers.
Ridley deconfirmed for being Cunning God of Death.
Don't worry, no one's shoving her popularity down my throat. This makes perfect sense to me.
wait was that your blue text
oh thank goodness.
We're digging to deep? Yeah, well, we're quite fond of this world where K. Rool has an identical twin pirate brother and where Baby Mario doesn't wear overalls, so you can just go back to your own little world of apparently significant details. Just don't come back after we call the inevitable K. Rool-Captain K. Rool tag team. Which of course could only happen if you take into consideration the undeniable fact, as said in K. Rool's 100% crafted by Sakurai himself trophy description, that they are two different beings.
