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Awesome, thanks for chiming in on the convo! I know you are taking a back seat in all of the speculation now, but it's still good to hear from you.
Yeah. I pretty much see the same, except I am not optimistic on Isaac. Support for a Golden Sun character is low in Japan, and I think a GS character getting in as DLC is pretty much contingent on Camelot making another game in the series for the 3DS. Last I heard (2011?), they seemed pretty reluctant to make another RPG (likely due to the poor performance of Dark Dawn), although there is really not much else left for them to do now that they finished their Mario Golf and Tennis 3DS titles, so who knows.
Isaac and Ray are equals
Ray has not been a thing since the pre-Brawl days, and even there he didn't register on the Top 10 most wanted newcomers.
He is from a fighting game that is very popular in Japan and is the flagship franchise from that particular developer and the fighting game that invented custom fighters something that is now is SSB and Also had great multiplayer battles which were in a 3D style that was great and made the game amazing and is the most underrated Nintendo IP but is beloved and deserves a game on the Wii U imagine a Custom Robo for the Wii U with the endless possibilities in today's gaming environment with all the customization, online play, and the DLC. Wouldn't it be great?
Custom Robo isn't popular in Japan. There's a reason why the series has been dormant for eight years.
It was a smash hit in Japan and is why it released world wide and why Nintendo invested in them and kept them alive when their over branching parent company went south.
Also you have to admit that Ray is probably in the top 3 characters to be added that isn't a previous cut or from a franchise already represented.
Geno is owned by Square Enix, Geno has only made a cameo from a game that was released 11 years ago, that's hardly a merit
Dry Bowser would be an alternate skin and most of those characters have been deconfirmed as stage hazards, assist trophies, and Smash Run Enemies, which leaves Geno as the most popular next choices and most logical.
Citation please on the first one. At least since the N64 (I don't have more recent sales data) none of the Custom Robo games broke 150K. I am sure the Nintendo 64 games performed solidly, but the series never left being niche.
Isaac and Ray both have equal support among the MIA and both fall under the representative of their franchise category and both would make great additions and would help push a new Custom Robo since it is an amazing franchise and does deserve a new game.
Nope. As it stands, the only true newcomer that enjoys more support for DLC among Western Smash Bros. fans is K. Rool.
Don't mind me, I'm just some guy over here wanting prince fluff.
Oh boy are we playing the "Let's try and predict Sakurai"game again? I love that game.
I am not arguing with you just saying thats how most people view ray and you have to admit that Ray would be a great addition.
What do you think?Don't mind me, I'm just some guy over here wanting prince fluff.
Oh boy are we playing the "Let's try and predict Sakurai"game again? I love that game.
Only joking of course.
Going by the MIA Isaac Assist Trophy principle, he has a pretty good shot. Going by popularity principle, less of a shot. This is Sakurai we're talking about, he has had a fair amount of Custom Robo representation in Smash since Melee, so who knows, maybe he thinks the franchise is worthy of a roster spot. Also, let's not forget how many "unpopular characters" made it in, or better yet, how many "popular characters" didn't. In the end it all depends on Sakurai, not popularity, not relevancy.
Uuuuhhhh excuse me?
No, you were saying Ray is a popular addition when he's not. He's very niche. The fact is that there is barely any fanbases for true newcomers left at this point. K. Rool, Isaac, Dixie Kong, and Bandanna Dee are the only notable ones left. Inkling might break out depending on Splatoon's reception, but its iffy considering the the small installbase for the Wii U.
Custom Robo does have more representation than Golden Sun in these games and correct if I am wrong but Golden Sun has no representation what so ever right?
Also King K. Rool is the only villain to not try the same plan twice and so he has a bunch of different movesets to pull from and all of those you mentioned were from one of his different schemes.
Every single newcomer that got in Smash 4 had an important game role in the years between Brawl and Smash 4, with the sole exception of Duck Hunt (of which relevancy doesn't apply since they're this game's retro slot).
Custom Robo had three trophies in Melee and Brawl, some stickers in Brawl, and an Assist Trophy.
Here comes the rant.
People have been suggesting a costume playstyle, but that feels forced to make K. Rool unique.
You are right. But again just because someone is relevant doesn't mean they're guaranteed a spot, or vice versa, same with popularity, in the end, it's all up to Sakurai.
I'd like to remind you that in this day and age there is a thing called Google, look crap up before you spit nonsense, my friend. Not trying to be hostile, just a fair warning.
Don't forget the starting retro character slot
I view Custom Robo more as a home console game and also it still has a pretty good chance and you can't deny the great addition Ray would make. Can you?
Even if K. Rool is unlikely, he's still more likely than a near impossible character.
Almost half of the Custom Robo series was on handhelds, and the most recent release was a handheld release. We will see in two weeks whether the series receives any content in Smash 4 Wii U, but personally I am not expecting anything outside of maybe a trophy or two.
Why are you so against ray?
I am not against Ray. I am against "I think xxx is likely because I think he/she is cool."
He's just analyzing facts and stating them. He's not against Ray, he just doesn't see him happening. To each their own.
I'm pretty sure that, based on everything we've read, K. Rool was near the top of the most wanted characters list, if not #3, and Dixie wasn't even listed. The original person who looked up a variety of Japanese forums to see who was the most talked about only saw a few requests for Dixie.
