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Im sorry to hear about the prince an all that, but in all honesty, Dark Pit, Dr Mario, and "just maybe" Duck Hunt Dog will have to go to make room for Paper Mario, Krystal, Lucas, and Wolf.No my roster here:
I haven't got the chance to edit it yet, so that's why I'm asking you guys.
I would most certainly argue that Wolf is more likely given the notion that there are no technical problems regarding his character. But I suppose we need to get Pigma, Panther, and Leon in Smash Run before I can convince people of that.
Alternate characters, perhaps!
Dear god that sounds repugnant.
Because Dark Pit (and the source is credible).
I believe it because he managed to leak two alternate pallete swaps (which are relatively obscure colors by the way) that ended up being in the demo of this year's E3. You can check out the Ninka leak thread for yourself to find out why I believe it if you take a deep look.
If I may ask, why do you put Ice Climbers in your roster, but not Wolf, when both are supposedly cut according to Ninka_kiwi's leak?Alright this my final roster until Ninka kiwi is confirmed fake:
I put them there for good measure in case the Ninka_kiwi leak is fake, and I highly doubt at any Nintendo event that IC will be deconfirmed flat-out, unless they show them off as the first DLC characters for the game (Which probably has a 10% happening at this point.)
It comes off as a bit odd to me that the Mario franchise gets seven representatives, Pokemon gets six, and Zelda sticks with five. I really don't think that would happen. Just my initial thoughts though.Alright this my final roster until Ninka kiwi is confirmed fake:
Does the ninka kiwi says that Ridley is playable?Alright this my final roster until Ninka kiwi is confirmed fake:
No it doesn't, nor does it say those batch of newcomers are the final ones either.
Mario is Nintendo's flagship franchise. It make total sense for it to have more reps than any other series.
Not necessarily, Ridley was presumed to be in by one of the early pioneers of the leak, but I do not believe that he is an official aspect of the leak.
I realize that. My problem is that two out of the three biggest franchises in Smash get character upgrades, but Zelda doesn't. I think if Mario got seven, they would try to at least get Zelda a sixth.
Or the "six-six-six" theory. Mario gets an additional character, Dr. Mario (the character I advocate for). Obviously this is a two character increase, after that Pokemon remains stagnant, albeit with completely new characters: Greninja and Mewtwo over Squirtle and Ivysaur. Whilst Legend of Zelda gets a one character increase. It seems feasible...
I've had the exact same thought. Either Mario, Zelda, and Pokemon are going to get six representatives each respectively, or they're all going to stick with five. That's how I think it would go.
Why would it confirm him? for the good Doc? or for Kid Icarus always needing to have half of the number of Pokémon reps?
I don't think the numbers of representatives from a series matters as long as all the characters are good choices.
I can see where you're coming from, but what do you think the developers might think? They probably want the representation to be fair between the big franchises. Plus I think they realize that if Mario and Pokemon both get six representatives, there aren't going to be many happy Legend of Zelda fans if it sticks with five. Especially when you consider that Zelda didn't really get a newcomer in Brawl, rather a replacement.
Actually the reason we advocate for him is for the fact that Lucina could mean more clones, due to Sakurai's statement about alternate costumes, and since he was teased at the end of Palutena's reveal, he could be more likely than we thought.
Sakurai probably cares more about Smash being a fun interesting game with good characters than what the developers think of his decisions. Really though, Pokemon and Mario both outsell Zelda, so even if Sakurai was basing it off that, it would still make sense to have more Mario/Pokemon reps.
Some of us like him. Some of us like clones. Some of us like both. I'm the third kind.
I thought this thread agreed not to use the sales argument anymore...
Oh I hate the sales argument, but you are saying that Pokemon, Mario, and Zelda should be equally represented and I was just wondering why? Metroid isn't represented as much as them, neither is any other series. Why those three? And why would developers be mad if their series has one less character than another series?
Dark Pit is an interesting character choice as he does not need bring much to the table, that is precisely why he is a great potential clone character. Clone characters use a predetermined move-set in a different way, they offer something unique through their similarities. 'Tis their purpose on the roster, good sir.
What? As in bad choices for characters? I disagree if that is the case.
I would only accept those characters if Paper Dark Pit was among them.
What about Dr. 8-bit Mario?, that's the only plausible retro rep at this point.
So happy to see Mona and Anna! Sad that Dixie is missing thoughDream Roster Survey Results
Remember, this was based on people listing their most wanted newcomer from the categories:
Super Mario
Wario
Yoshi
Legend of Zelda
Star Fox
Donkey Kong
Metroid
Pokemon
Fire Emblem
Earthbound
Kid Icarus
Retro
3rd Party
Other Nintendo Series
Returning Veteran
I then compiled repeated answers into a survey and roughly 37 people filled it out. Here are the results:
DREAM ROSTER FOR SMASHBOARDS
As you can see we had a couple of ties. Some were actually last minute. Ties were in Super Mario, Wario, and 3rd party series.
The winner for "Most Wanted Overall" was:
In the future we can do a better survey. There were a couple problems with this one that I will correct for next time.
Hope you enjoyed it.
that would be a great roster, though.
Sorry if I came off a bit too antagonistic towards the character before, just trying to find out what potential he has honestly. I'll admit I'm not a big fan of clones at all, never have really been, so it's pretty much a guarantee that I'll be at least somewhat bias against them until I finally see how different they are from the core character. So learning how he might be different does make me more willing to accept his character. Also I hadn't known about any of the other teasing towards Dark Pit, so I'd always been really hesitant to consider him as a sure bet as so many others had. Would you mind sending me the way of some of those hints just for me to see?
At the end of the day, he's just a feasible clone for Pit.
Could be better, but seeing as you want to stick to this "leak" I'm dunno how much I could ask you to change.Alright this my final roster until Ninka kiwi is confirmed fake:
You will only accept two veterans, a potentially very unique character, and krystal for that??
It just makes sense. Those are the three biggest franchises in Smash, and if one out represents the other, there are going to be unhappy fans. If Mario and Pokemon get six while Zelda gets five, people won't be happy when there are still plenty of Zelda characters they could have added. If Mario and Zelda get six, people will be mad that Mewtwo isn't on the roster, even though there's clearly room for him. Like Reila said, Mario is Nintendo's flagship franchise. Don't think Pokemon and Zelda are getting six while Mario sticks with five. Not saying it couldn't happen, just saying that I think it's unlikely. With all of the characters still at the developer's disposal, it would be less than desirable to not add them if they have the chance.
