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Spinosaurus

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I love Rayman, and this crap is taunting me. He would have been SO perfect.

I'm gonna go play Rayman 2 and cry. (Hey! Baby steps at least!)
 

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This is it. This is the R.O.B. moment. If Shulk is confirmed, not only does the common detraction of "old info, old info!" go out of the window, but also this will mark the second time the leaker has had the chance to divulge info on additional newcomers and did not.

Exciting. Many peoples' hopes and dreams are predicated by this reveal not being Shulk, yet I strongly doubt Sal and his source would so casually toss aside their perfect record.
 

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This is it. This is the R.O.B. moment. If Shulk is confirmed, not only does the common detraction of "old info, old info!" go out of the window, but also this will mark the second time the leaker has had the chance to divulge info on additional newcomers and did not.

Exciting. Many peoples' hopes and dreams are predicated by this reveal not being Shulk, yet I strongly doubt Sal and his source would so casually toss aside their perfect record.
There is no perfect record, he predicted Little Mac at E3, and we never got Mac at an E3. That's the main detractor for me.
 

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Why is Shulk in a Rayman costume?
Because Rayman is in a Shulk costume. I dunno.

Today's update likely means no Ubisoft rep this game, as Rayman is the character nowadays that's been moreso associated with Nintendo and Ubisoft Relations. (I'd love to see Ezio Auditore or Aiden Pearce potentially, but another game.) It also means we can actually see some trophies like a Solid Snake trophy or a Square Enix trophy appear. This isn't really about new characters and more about having a variety of characters from Nintendo consoles regardless of who they are owned by.

And that Rayman trophy is pretty cool, and props to Ubisoft for giving Nintendo a model.

Just a bit longer until #MonadoMonday or whoever it is.
 

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This is it. This is the R.O.B. moment. If Shulk is confirmed, not only does the common detraction of "old info, old info!" go out of the window, but also this will mark the second time the leaker has had the chance to divulge info on additional newcomers and did not.

Exciting. Many peoples' hopes and dreams are predicated by this reveal not being Shulk, yet I strongly doubt Sal and his source would so casually toss aside their perfect record.
Well R.O.B is not a newcomer, he's a veteran so yeah he could be shown in these trailer, actually that's what i'm expecting (not R.O.B but a veteran)

There is no perfect record, he predicted Little Mac at E3, and we never got Mac at an E3. That's the main detractor for me.
Still he have shown that what he says is true, so there's no point on saying that he's wrong, IMO most people that do that is because they want some "hope" of something else
 

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Well R.O.B is not a newcomer, he's a veteran so yeah he could be shown in these trailer, actually that's what i'm expecting (not R.O.B but a veteran)



Still he have shown that what he says is true, so there's no point on saying that he's wrong, IMO most people that do that is because they want some "hope" of something else
When I say 'R.O.B. moment', I mean the point in time when the 35-character roster in Brawl became essentially undeniable due to R.O.B.'s confirmation as playable. This is the R.O.B. moment for the 47 + R roster.
 

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When I say 'R.O.B. moment', I mean the point in time when the 35-character roster in Brawl became essentially undeniable due to R.O.B.'s confirmation as playable. This is the R.O.B. moment for the 47 + R roster.
I'd say the ROB moment for people would be the reveal of the Chorus Men.
 
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I'd say the ROB moment for people would be the reveal of the Chorus Men.
Well, one of the major detractions of the Gematsu leak being the final roster(47 + R) was that Sal's leaker was working with outdated information. If the reveal is Shulk, that blows that theory clean out of the water, because this is a very current event that Sal's source would have inside info on. Also, since again there are no newcomers being named, it's reasonable to think there are no newcomers beyond the three we're waiting on(Shulk, Chrom, CK).
 

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When I say 'R.O.B. moment', I mean the point in time when the 35-character roster in Brawl became essentially undeniable due to R.O.B.'s confirmation as playable. This is the R.O.B. moment for the 47 + R roster.
Well that would mean that we need a character that's not in the Gematsu leak, i hope we get one but i'm pretty sure it won't be today :drshrug:
 

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Well, one of the major detractions of the Gematsu leak being the final roster(47 + R) was that Sal's leaker was working with outdated information. If the reveal is Shulk, that blows that theory clean out of the water, because this is a very current event that Sal's source would have inside info on. Also, since again there are no newcomers being named, it's reasonable to think there are no newcomers beyond the three we're waiting on(Shulk, Chrom, CK).
But people would still say that Shulk is obvious and thus doesn't help the leak in any way, shape or form.
 

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The idea is that the leaker staked an otherwise perfect 8-0 record on it. Why commit yourself when the former ambiguity would serve you just fine regardless? This was deliberate. The leaker wanted to show that their info is in fact current.
 

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Well yeah, Shulk is obvious but he's obvious thanks to the leak (to the Gematsu leak in general)
Plus, up until now, the leak has named specific characters, but has been fairly vague otherwise. This is definitive and specific. If this reveal is not Shulk, then Gematsu's credibility dies this morning. If it is Shulk, it is ironclad truth, and I think the roster count follows it.
 

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Plus, up until now, the leak has named specific characters, but has been fairly vague otherwise. This is definitive and specific. If this reveal is not Shulk, then Gematsu's credibility dies this morning. If it is Shulk, it is ironclad truth, and I think the roster count follows it.
It is going to be Shulk, the company that works with Nintendo making Xenoblade retweeted Nintendo's tweet about the new character
 

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Plus, up until now, the leak has named specific characters, but has been fairly vague otherwise. This is definitive and specific. If this reveal is not Shulk, then Gematsu's credibility dies this morning. If it is Shulk, it is ironclad truth, and I think the roster count follows it.
No. It is not "ironclad" truth after Shulk's reveal. It would take a less notable character like Chorus Men or a disputed character like Chrom to improve its credibility.
 

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No. It is not "ironclad" truth after Shulk's reveal. It would take a less notable character like Chorus Men or a disputed character like Chrom to improve its credibility.
Nothing can dispute Gematsu's credibility if it's Shulk. Sal's leaker may as well be Sakurai himself at that point if this trailer is Shulk's.
 

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Nothing can dispute Gematsu's credibility if it's Shulk. Sal's leaker may as well be Sakurai himself at that point if this trailer is Shulk's.
I am certain that a confirmation of Chrom or Chorus Men's non-appearance would dispute Gematsu's credibility after Shulk's reveal. I am not entirely positive though.
 

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Nothing can dispute Gematsu's credibility if it's Shulk. Sal's leaker may as well be Sakurai himself at that point if this trailer is Shulk's.
I feel the opposite way.

Sal didn't say it was Shulk until the tweet appears, aka when everyone in the speculative community are decided that was the case.
He's not leaking anything, he's just capitalizing on what we already know.
 

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To me, the Shulk prediction was a ballsy one. A game of that level of success isn't guaranteed a newcomer. Even FE Awakening did better than Chronicles.
 

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Allow me to remind everyone that Rayman would have been a perfect mid-range character.

He has a GRAPPLE BEAM
 

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It does not need to be an accurate prediction, it needs to be a favorable prediction. We shall see, I suppose.
To be fair, it wasn't even a prediction. He just said to enjoy Shulk. Now obviously, with a new character reveal just around the corner, that would imply that Shulk would be revealed. But maybe if the leaker did just make the same educated guess everyone else here did, they could technically get away with being wrong due to not actually saying that Shulk would be revealed.
 

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To be fair, it wasn't even a prediction. He just said to enjoy Shulk. Now obviously, with a new character reveal just around the corner, that would imply that Shulk would be revealed. But maybe if the leaker did just make the same educated guess everyone else here did, they could technically get away with being wrong due to not actually saying that Shulk would be revealed.
I could understand this if he didn't also predict the WFT, that one was a stretch for me, the rest were pretty obvious in my opinion. Did the original leak specifically say 47 + R or is that just how many he revealed because being 2 away from an even 50 just seems so odd to me
 

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Well definitely wasn't expecting all of that, good lord, but hey there's Captain Falcon finally, Robin looks really cool though
 

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Sakurai literally just flipped off the entire Gematsu leak.
 

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Gematsu and 47 + R are both dead. Wow, what a shock. :\ Well then, guess that's that. Fun run, but where's the banme thread to post in, or is it something you have to note a moderator to request?
 
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