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bro that trailer was literally mystical, truly incredible. So happy for all the people who wanted sora
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Thanks!! pic.twitter.com/xiJdWZKM5P
— 桜井 政博 / Masahiro Sakurai (@Sora_Sakurai) October 5, 2021
Exactly; even while watching the trailer I was half expecting Mickey to fly in or rayman to melt out or something, like it’s near supernatural levels of unpredictability lmao they always subvert my expectationsTheres no telling what they’ll do next if ****ing Sora can get in.
— Nintendo France (@NintendoFrance) October 5, 2021
Just like Banjo before him, but even grander.
Legendary.
17 years ago I would have been very excited for this reveal, but now I am just worried about SMT V not getting the advertising it desperately needs because they decided to include the most barebones Kingdom Hearts content in Smash. I can’t believe Nintendo put Persona in Smash when the Switch doesn’t have main games but they are leaving one of their holiday titles out to dry.
At least the Switch is getting actual Kingdom Hearts games now to avoid a total failure of a reveal(which makes Joker in Smash look even more stupid btw).
Sadly I also predicted Nintendo would do this with Nintendo Disney theme parks starting up last year for the Mario anniversary(Sora does have the Mickey Mouse symbol on his keyblade just as a permanent branding for Disney on Smash despite Goofy and Donald missing completely).
I. ****ING. WINThis is a longshot in the dark, and this is not backed by any sort of evidence whatsoever. This is more so just a fun "what if" that I think could happen in 1 out of 14,000,605 futures. If there's a point to attack in this essay, this is not one of them, as this point is not serious at all, nor will I seriously advocate for it as more than a tinfoil hat theory if pressed.
Anyways, as well all know, Fighters Pass 2 has 6 fighters instead of 5. This fact was prominently introduced and discussed in Byleth's Sakurai Presents presentation. I believe that this could be due to the fact that negotiations for a character who had previously been rejected (which we know has occurred due to Sakurai's book) suddenly became available, and Nintendo jumped on it. There is precedent for such a thing occurring in the development of a Smash game, as Sonic was a late addition to Brawl, being added 2 years after the newcomer list had initially been decided. While the exact reason for this has seemingly never been stated, it's common speculation that this was due to Sega initially rejecting the request, and then walking back on it later due to the immense hype surrounding Brawl (this Source Gaming article says as such, but does not link back to a primary source which makes me hesitant to completely believe it).
I think you can see where this is going.
Sora had immense popularity during the ballot period, with the Kingdom Hearts community rallying together for Sora's inclusion. It's not hard to believe that Nintendo tried for Sora then, but negotiations fell through for one reason or another. They drop the issue until Fighters Pass 2, when Disney has done a 180 on video games following the mass success of Kingdom Hearts 3 and is looking to promote the series in the largest gaming crossover of all time. Nintendo approaches Sakurai like they did for Dragon Quest, and they go for it despite having already decided Fighters Pass 2 in its entirety. Since it's DLC, all they have to do is tack on another fighter to the pass and promote as such.
This explanation accounts for Disney's role in negotiations while also accommodating the timeline of Fighters Pass 2 being decided. In the initial deciding, Nintendo had a very thin window to negotiate with Disney if they decided to do so, probably for the second or third time. By going outside of that timeline, however, and explaining Disney's turnaround on negotiations as being due to a desire to capitalize off the success of the Kingdom Hearts series after KH3, you can justify Sora's inclusion as the special sixth fighter in Fighters Pass 2.
Of course, I completely acknowledge the sheer amount of logical leaps and mental gymnastics needed to reach such a conclusion. This certainly doesn't hold up to Occam's Razor, which would sooner accept that negotiations for Sora either haven't occurred or failed in the past, and that this Fighters Pass has 6 characters because Fighters Pass 1 was incredibly successful, Nintendo wanted to add more characters, and it just so happened to work out to 6 characters instead of 5. However, I think this theory is worth mentioning, at the very least as a fun little thought.
He's the cutest thing I've seen... 0u0Kirby Sora!— Nintendo France (@NintendoFrance) October 5, 2021
If they ended Smash by promoting a game that isn't even out yet, it seems like it would be a Corrin situation all over again. (technically, this presentation promoted the Kingdom Hearts games, but they're out on basically every other modern console and PC, just not the Switch)17 years ago I would have been very excited for this reveal, but now I am just worried about SMT V not getting the advertising it desperately needs because they decided to include the most barebones Kingdom Hearts content in Smash. I can’t believe Nintendo put Persona in Smash when the Switch doesn’t have main games but they are leaving one of their holiday titles out to dry.
At least the Switch is getting actual Kingdom Hearts games now to avoid a total failure of a reveal(which makes Joker in Smash look even more stupid btw).
Sadly I also predicted Nintendo would do this with Nintendo Disney theme parks starting up last year for the Mario anniversary(Sora does have the Mickey Mouse symbol on his keyblade just as a permanent branding for Disney on Smash despite Goofy and Donald missing completely).
The Mii Costume lineup was disappointing with only having 3 costumes. Doomguy was great. I am hoping some Mii Costumes continue to drop like what happened with Smash 4 even after DLC cycle.Damnnnnnn i really though we had the chosen undead.... i guess people actually familiar with kingdom hearts didnt fall for it...
As for someone that doesnt care for kingdom hearts... the content in general was a little meh.. .no remixes, only kingdom hearts spirits, and barely any costumes (at least we had doomslayer! :D although was it too meager to ask for a song?)
Still at least sora looks fun addition to the roster and the timeless river costume is actually pretty neat.
And congrats to teh sora fans... you probanly just deafened your neighbors