Challenger Approaching: His Prescription? KOs

[Rudra]

why not use PSA to make him spawn capsules( the item ) use item size mod to make it a bit smaller ( at least appear smaller ) . idk if you can spawn common item with the setting on OFF

Couldnt D3 do that extremely rarely with his Minion Throw? (IIRC, those capsules contained Smashballs too). Not sure if they still show up with Items Off though.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

Couldnt D3 do that extremely rarely with his Minion Throw? (IIRC, those capsules contained Smashballs too). Not sure if they still show up with Items Off though.

They do show up. Same with peach's bomb-ombs, mr, saturns, and beam swords.

It's just that, when items are on and the item chance is on high, the chance of pulling out an item instead of the usual is much higher.

 

[kciD]

why not use PSA to make him spawn capsules( the item ) use item size mod to make it a bit smaller ( at least appear smaller ) . idk if you can spawn common item with the setting on OFF

Maybe B can be changed to something like Peach's turnips or Link's bombs, except Dr. Mario pulls capsules out of his ***. Of course, then the damage and knockback of a capsule would have to be reduced by A LOT, and it would have to dissapear with ground/enemy contact. And if it's possible to modify the graphic of the capsule, it could be made smaller with different colors. But even without that, a capsule pull would work (of course as long as items are turned off, so nothing would be in the capsule, unless that can be modified as well)

Couldnt D3 do that extremely rarely with his Minion Throw? (IIRC, those capsules contained Smashballs too). Not sure if they still show up with Items Off though.

Just the other day, I was playing as D^3 and threw a smash ball for the first time (keep in mind I play D^3 quite often). I was on wifi, so I'm not sure how my opponents rules were set, but mine were set as items off plus the frequency of none. Although if it picked my opponents ruleset and his was items on with the frequency of none, I know it's possible for items to be produced by certain characters.

 

[mofo_]

im wondering if PSA can make it so that when the capsule spawned, it would spawn as if it has already been thrown ( much like how snake tosses his grenade ) and then make it so that the capsule will never explode ( IIRC, 12.5% chance )

 

[colored blind]

Or make it explode rarely. Kinda like getting a Gordo to the face from DDD.

 

[Wander]

When it becomes possible, would it not be better to just change the graphic of the fireball to an actual pill instead of having him spawn a capsule? Capsules don't bounce at all and would have to have a whole lot of stuff edited to make it not like the item. Or we could just wait until we're able to modify props and remove the fire effects, then change the damage and SFX.

 

[M-WUZ-H3R3]

He didn't have the hat in melee. Although without the hat he won't have the stethoscope.

(Why does he have a stethoscope on his hat? )

 

[kciD]

change the hat graphics to look like a stethascope and his hair

 

[PKNintendo]

Err is anyone working on him as of late?

PSA helps right?

 

[Roxas215]

They do show up. Same with peach's bomb-ombs, mr, saturns, and beam swords.

It's just that, when items are on and the item chance is on high, the chance of pulling out an item instead of the usual is much higher.

Umm no. If the items are off ddd will not throw capsules or anything else besides waddles and gordos.

Bombs,etc are parts of peach's movesets. Items aren't part of ddd's moveset. They only spawn when items are on,

 

[kciD]

Err is anyone working on him as of late?

PSA helps right?

So........

 

[tsunami70875]

you know, can we edit the fire ball on mario's forward smash now? i haven't exactly had a look at mario's script so i'm not sure, so can anyone else confirm?

 

[DarkDragoon]

you know, can we edit the fire ball on mario's forward smash now? i haven't exactly had a look at mario's script so i'm not sure, so can anyone else confirm?

Uhh...its a graphic effect...so yes, you can change it...
-DD

 

[Dragonrage]

Simple change, just need to remove one external graphic call.

 

[comboking]

Can I get a vBrawl text file please? I mean codes not a whole TXT file

 

[Wander]

EDIT: Removed

 

[Wander]

Dr. Mario .PAC File

If Cape has abandoned this project or has other things to do, I would be willing to take over with the help of you other Doc fans. The above is a .PAC file I created using the changelist in Cape's original post, plus a few very minor tweaks to weight, falling speed, and aerial mobility. I still can't edit the damage and hit effects of his neutral and down B in PSA, but those are pretty small things compared the project as a whole. I haven't tested this myself yet, so please give some feedback and things you think ought to be changed. Maybe we can catch up to Roy before too long.

 

[camelot]

Why'd you change the falling speed and aerial mobility? Doc's weren't any different from Mario's, except for the fact that Doc had higher horizontal top speed in the air, but his mobility in the air was still the same. Maybe that's just what you did, though, I don't know.

I understand the weight at least, Doc's was 100 while Mario's was 98.

 

[Wander]

Why'd you change the falling speed and aerial mobility? Doc's weren't any different from Mario's, except for the fact that Doc had higher horizontal top speed in the air, but his mobility in the air was still the same. Maybe that's just what you did, though, I don't know.

I understand the weight at least, Doc's was 100 while Mario's was 98.

I know Mario and Doc were attribute-wise almost identical in Melee. I thought the point was not to remake Melee Doc, but update him as he might have been in Brawl. The changes are so tiny you probably won't notice them, as in the hundredths and thousandths digits, but they're there. I can always change it back if it's not a good idea.

 

[PKNintendo]

Wander... you are my HERO!!

 

[dabridge]

I nominate this version of Dr. Mario (PAC) for god tier.

He lives up to 999% lol

 

[Wander]

I nominate this version of Dr. Mario (PAC) for god tier.

He lives up to 999% lol

Did I mess something up?

 

[tsunami70875]

Dr. Mario .PAC File

If Cape has abandoned this project or has other things to do, I would be willing to take over with the help of you other Doc fans. The above is a .PAC file I created using the changelist in Cape's original post, plus a few very minor tweaks to weight, falling speed, and aerial mobility. I still can't edit the damage and hit effects of his neutral and down B in PSA, but those are pretty small things compared the project as a whole. I haven't tested this myself yet, so please give some feedback and things you think ought to be changed. Maybe we can catch up to Roy before too long.

great job wander, i was considering doing this, but gogo to you
actually, you should be able to make Doc have the Melee tornado for the down b. there's a "starspin mario" or something like that in the downloads section

 

[dabridge]

Did I mess something up?

I don't know if I'm the only one getting this, but he makes every character's throws go slow, and he simply won't die. It's like he's at 0% all the time. The only way for him to die is a self destruct or getting gimped (and that's pretty hard since it's hard to get him out of the stage even).

 

[Wander]

Hmm...I'm not really sure what's wrong. I still haven't been able to test him yet because I'm not able to get to my Wii, but I only just barely tweaked his weight and other attributes. I might have accidentally altered a flag in one of his actions that affects his knockback vulnerability, but I don't know what it is or how to fix it. Give me a little while to tinker with it, and if anyone else wants to try making their own .PAC, go ahead.

EDIT: If no one's fixed it by tomorrow, I'll take another go at it and be more careful about what I edit. Aside from the not dying part, how's he working?

 

[dabridge]

Honestly the only changes I noticed were upb, dtilt, and fair, and they weren't very different. He's bearly changed from Mario.

I'll test it some more to see what I can find.

 

[Wander]

All I did was copy what was in the OP - if something doesn't seem different enough or is broken or something, I'd be happy to take suggestions. This isn't just my project, everyone has input.

 

[dabridge]

Foward smash's hitbox is Mario's body behind his hand (the hand itself and where the fireball used to be have no hitbox). Also, shouldn't nair be stronger?

 

[Wander]

The hitboxes on the nair are switched, so that it gets stronger instead of weaker over time. And I'm working on fixing the Fsmash.

About his knockback resistance issue, I think I found the problem. When I change his weight to a decimal number, it looks fine. However, if I save and reopen the same .PAC, it shows up as something weird like 5.6295E+14. Does anyone know what I'm talking about and how to fix it?

 

[Wander]

Fix one problem, cause another...

I got his weight all worked out, so now it is actually possible to kill him. However, I'm having problems with his Fsmash. Simply by changing the last digit of the fireball hit to 3 to make it an electric attack seems to have made the attack disappear entirely. I didn't change any graphic or external graphic IDs, the fireball is still visually there, but it doesn't make any collisions.

 

[Wander]

Dr. Mario .PAC V2

That fixes his weight issues and modifies the visuals on his Fsmash a little. In order to get the hitboxes working I had to increase the size of the other hitboxes on his Fsmash, so now the range is about the size of the electric explosion in front of him. However, since hitboxes are circles, it also hits a good distance above and behind Mario. I can't really think of any solutions for this other than to nerf the Fsmash a little to balance it, but does anyone have some other ideas?

 

[adrahil]

Thanks for the work, Wander.

I took your v2 pac and reworked Fsmash a good bit. I think I've perfected the graphic, looks almost identical to melee. I changed the hitboxes around and increased the KBG a bit. The first hitbox is still a non elemental hit, while the second two are the strong electric hits. I also added a dramatic hitlag modifier so there is a small pause as you hit them, as in Wolf's ftilt. I also changed the trajectory so low angle sends at 35 degrees, standard is 45, and high angle is 55. So far seems to work pretty good, might kill a little too early, but the low range probably makes up for that.

Feedback welcome.

Doc v3

Edit: Yes, SS, the nair hitboxes are reverse of most characters, with the end of the move being the strongest.

 

[SymphonicSage12]

does it still have the awesome nair that gets stronger as time goes on?

 

[PKNintendo]

People here... Don't appreciate Melee terms.

Guys its a sex kick!
It gets weaker as time passes. Dr. Mario is the reverse because he uses Viagra.

 

[PKNintendo]

People here... Don't appreciate Melee terms.

Guys its a sex kick!
It gets weaker as time passes. Dr. Mario is the reverse because he uses Viagra.

 

[kciD]

WE HEARD YOU THE FIRST TIME!

Haha, j/k, I'm going to test out Doc v3 pretty soon.

Edit: Ok I have the file...but I haven't used .pac files yet. I don't know how it works...

 

[Wander]

^Name it FitMario.pac, put it in Mario's fighter folder, same as a costume. It will load automatically when you boot through Gecko.

 

[Kazz@]

Hey guys, I might make some alt costumes for Doc.

(Maybe)

So you may see the awesomeness that is doc's blue costume on your wii.

 

[kciD]

Don't forget the gynecologist green doc

 

[Wander]

If we're going to really finish this and get it into an official set, remember that Mario in Brawl has one extra costume more than Doc did in Melee.

Doc -- Mario
White -- Fire
Black -- Black
Green -- Green
Blue -- Jumpman
Red -- Default
???? -- Wario

So we'll need some kind of new costume for Doc to fill the spot.