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Celebrity Rehab Mafia: Day 5 Begins! Deadline is Monday, May 28th at 11:59 PM EST!

Overswarm

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That's because you're scum and would prefer a No Lynch.

KevinM is at L-4. Both KevinM and Macman have disappeared, because KevinM gave up and Macman doesn't really have anything to defend himself against. Good on that one KevinM. -_-;;

Rockin, you're gonna have to lay down a vote the next time you post. And soon.
 

#HBC | J

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No, it's because I'm town and would rather lynch scum.

Macman has more people on him. If anyone is going to have a NL, it's you+Rajam. >=[

Seriously, me+KevinM+FF are already on him.

Rockin, please, lynch Macman. You are one of the two swing votes and Ditzy is just gonna go KevinM with Rajam/OS like I am almost 100% certain on that.
 

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I was hoping to see J post a bit more about Macman's defense, but that doesn't seem to be the case. In anycase

Vote: KevinM
 

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Rockin, please, lynch Macman. You are one of the two swing votes and Ditzy is just gonna go KevinM with Rajam/OS like I am almost 100% certain on that.
As much as I would (and perfered) to lynch Macman (based on the threat level), I'm going to side with the KevinM lynch. Either lynch would've actually have been fine with me. As long as there was some sort of 'lynch' between the two.

Nothing personal =/
 

#HBC | J

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Just saw that was in fact hammer.



Upset, I put this game on the back-burner because I didn't think town could mess-up lynching obvscum Macman.
 

#HBC | J

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As much as I would (and perfered) to lynch Macman (based on the threat level), I'm going to side with the KevinM lynch. Either lynch would've actually have been fine with me. As long as there was some sort of 'lynch' between the two.

Nothing personal =/
Haha I know its not personal but goodness you even wanted Macman lynched but you sided with a KevinM lynch just because......

I'm just not getting your logic, Macman could have been lynched but you gave up without even a fight and just sheeped along. That's probably what I'm semi-bitter about is your decision.
 

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Deadline set for 5/25 at 11:59 EST! With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch!

frozenflame751- (0)
KevinM- (5) Jdietz43, Overswarm, Rajam, Macman, Rockin
Rajam- (0)
Rockin- (0)
Macman- (3) J, KevinM, frozenflame751
Jdietz43- (0)
J- (0)
Overswarm- (0)

Not Voting- (0)


A lynch has been reached! It is now twilight until the flip is posted.
 

#HBC | J

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You could have tied the votes and we could have forced a lynch.

*siiiiiiiiiigh*

Kay, I'm gonna stop dwelling on it and move on from it.

I'm throwing my track up in the air a bit. These events make me think.
 

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Haha I know its not personal but goodness you even wanted Macman lynched but you sided with a KevinM lynch just because......

I'm just not getting your logic, Macman could have been lynched but you gave up without even a fight and just sheeped along. That's probably what I'm semi-bitter about is your decision.
Both people I was fine lynching, but I took in priority to Macman because of how much of a THREAT he was, not by how scummy he was. To me, it was difficult who to prioritize seeing as how I was fine with either dieing. Everyone made compelling arguements against one another (KevinM and macman I mean).

In the end, I chose KevinM to lynch based on how more scummy he is (in comparison to Macman) and how I really REALLY dislike no lynches (cause in the end, that's where I saw it would lead to had I jumped on the Macman route, being how stubborn some players can be. Not the best excuse in the world, but it's legitimate. Goodness knows we've seen those type of scenarios).
 

#HBC | J

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If I die toNight, kill Macman/Ditzy.

If I am still alive, I will get Macman/Ditzy myself but yeaaaaah. =P
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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@ Rajam I'm not going to waste my time writing a treatise about all the different possible scenarios scum Macman with a daykill could win. Not with deadline approaching and no one wanting to budge in the first place.

I still stand by Macman being the safer play, but if Rocking hasn't hammered within 30 mins of the deadline (which is TOMORROW btw, OS) I'll hammer KevinM. One of them needs to die today and even though I'd prefer Macman it would be ******** to let them both live and end up no lynching because of deadline.
 

#HBC | FrozeηFlame

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Ok wow, mega ninja'd. That's what I get for leaving this thread open all the time when I go afk for extended periods of time. >_<

If KevinM flips town, Macman ought to me rolecopped at the very least, MAYBE tracked, but again, we shouldn't be revealing who will be tracked so that the scum have to deal with the WIFOM of having to risk doing a kill/poisoning but not knowing whether or not they'll get caught.

Rajam, obviously don't be ******** and investigate someone you haven't yet.

OS is still scummy as balls even if KevinM comes up scum. Def deserves to continue being scrutinized.
 

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WILL SAY THIS AGAIN:

Regardless of toDay's flip, I want J + Rockin investigating OS and/or frozen. I don't care which one you pick, and in fact I don't want you to announce. This way we cover both OS and frozen effectively. If toDay's flip is town, and your investigations don't show anything relevant, it will just reinforce the idea of Macman scum, or else, you'll detect something weird and we can catch a 2nd hidden scum. If today's flip is town Macman is auto-scum so it's not necessary to investigate him, instead, it's time to corroborate OS and ff claims which could be hidden indies or whatever. JDietz doesn't have a NKill as J's track confirmed last Night, so leave that player slot alone.

TLDR: J and Rockin go on either frozen or OS regardless of toDay's flip.
 

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Was actually going to go through and do an ISO of KevinM/Macman expecting a 4/4 showdown. I guess this saved me some time.

In case I die (unlikely), I'd like to mention a few things:

1) We don't know if there's a 3rd blue/pink

2) We don't know if there is or isn't a 3rd mafia pair

That said, the night results have been
-no kill
-one poison, one kill
-shot in the face, one poison
-one kill

Because of this we can assume there are only two killing factions. A poisoner that poisons either the night before or the Day of and then that person dies the following Night, and someone that kills. If we get the mod text "shot in the face", we can assume the possibility of a 3rd faction that alternates kills with one of the others. Unlikely, but just FYI.

The poisoner also means we have to look back FARTHER than that to determine who they kill and why. The poisoners are pink mafia, as they killed a Blue. They killed Marshy and Kantrip.

3) We don't know if there are indies

4) We don't know the following peoples alignments, assuming we can trust Rajam's investigations:
J
Rajam
Rockin

Today's flip SHOULD show the results of KevinM and Macman simultaneously should KevinM flip town and should show just KevinM if he flips scum. So add Macman to the list if KevinM flips scum.


Rajam's investigation of one of them will help narrow things down quite a bit. If KevinM flips scum and Rockin/J flips town, lynching the other isn't a bad idea.

Chances are, Rajam will die tonight assuming the killer can choose Rajam (if KevinM is the NKiller and the poisoner chooses who dies days in advance, this may not be the case), assuming Rajam's investigations are truthful.


That said

If we get into a lylo with Rajam and two clears of his, don't automatically assume his investigations are legitimate and don't automatically assume his investigations mean that one of the two clears is an indie. Use your own head at that point, but just realize the implications of that scenario.



If FF had posted before the other people's and claimed "mega ninja'd" I'd feel a lot better about him, but given the timeframe I can't really trust its intentions.
 

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Yeah, see, that's the stuff we're gonna talk about. Like watching dietz when he had a clear and we had several others that didn't. Not good.
 

#HBC | J

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Nothing really to talk about.

Strong scum-read, I track them, point? ;P

Also who am I to track? Rockin? Heck to the no. Myself? Haha no. Another thing, Rajam is naive and his results, to me, I treat as bogus.

His reads+results also make me extremely hesitant to believe much of what he is doing this game is correct.
 

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What I'm saying J is its more important for a town to remove question marks at this point than it is to polish a read. Just saying.
 

#HBC | J

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Rockin, you wanna make up for the hammer mishap? Go to one of FF/Ditzy/Rajam toNight. Preferably the one in the middle, or the one on the end with an R. The one on the left as a last method person.

I could see OS being thrown in there but I still don't see scum-intent in his posts just besides myself not agreeing with his reads+train of thought this game. He floats in the same boat as Rajam but I think if we cleared up this dilemna with Rajam's targets actually being Naive or not.
 

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FF/Rockin/*semi-OS*, you guys need to lynch Macman toMorrow if KevinM flips town. I cannot stress this enough, do not even dance around the topic. Vote him from the start of the day and do not even let him try and get a shot off/post.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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And with the town all tangled up in their own do-hickeys, they ended up lynching none other than...

KevinM, Ted Nugent, town gunsmith! It is now night! Deadline is 5/28 at 11:59 EST!.
 

#HBC | Gorf

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And, when the town woke up, they soon realized that...

Rockin, Khloe Kardashian, Mafia Role Cop, had been brutally murdered during the Night!

Day 6 Begins! Deadline set for 6/8 at 11:59 EST! With 6 alive it takes 4 to lynch!

frozenflame751- (0)
Rajam- (0)
Macman- (0)
Jdietz43- (0)
J- (0)
Overswarm- (0)

Not Voting- (6) Overswarm, J, JDietz, Macman, Rajam, frozenflame751
 

Overswarm

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Get in here before he shoots?

He obviously doesn't have a gun or is saving a gun. Still a pretty obv lynch target for today, but if he was going to shoot he probably would have done it already.

Now if KevinM is a gunsmith and he in fact did not give a gun to macman but merely said so so we'd lynch him, I will drive to his place of residence and frown at him sternly for at least 30 seconds.



We have a grand total of 6 players left. It has now been all but confirmed that Pink mafia was the poisoned mafia and had 3 players and Blue mafia was the NKillers and had 3 mafia, 2 of which have flipped.

Pink mafia had 3 power roles. Blue has had a godfather, goon, and ????.

Rajam is still alive

So, keep that in mind.


Assuming we lynch Macman and I die in the Night (replace Overswarm with yourself as the other confirmed town for this scenario) and Macman flips town. Turns out KevinM was just being dinky and/or gave the gun to someone else.

frozenflame751- (0)
Rajam- (0)
Jdietz43- (0)
J- (0)

These 4 back the next day. If KevinM lied about the gun, well, we straight up lose. All there is to it. If he did something like give the gun to FF and then FF said nothing and then FF quickshoots toMorrow, we just lose. I don't really feel like entertaining this scenario because... well we can't do anything about it.

If Mafia thief somehow stole the gun, that's ridiculously chancey and its gonna straight up be that it no longer is something we can account for. Since KevinM is gone and no one tracked KevinM (or they would have said somehing about yesterday), our only chance of catching that person would be to say that KevinM lied and take a blind shot in the dark at someone else we think is scummy. Not really a viable option for us to pursue as we can't know.

So the whole gun thing really only leaves us with the ability to lynch Macman unless something comes up toDay. BIG ISSUE WITH THIS is that Rajam claimed inno on Macman.

If Rajam is mafia, there's no reason for him to clear Macman as they wouldn't be both blue; that'd be 4 blues. Too crazy.

If Rajam is town, he could be naive. If this is the case, we're still lynching Macman due to KevinM's flip and previous statements.

If Rajam is town, Macman could be indie. This would explain both the hiding of the gun as a "now I might win" option. It would also explain the inno result.

If Rajam is independent, he could be straight up lying. This would be ballsy on mafia and indie parts both, but is a possibility. Rajam claims inno on Macman, Macman realizes Rajam is lying or had his results messed with. Macman can't say anything without bringing suspicion on himself, and he can't kill Rajam without Rajam flipping and putting everyone investigated back into the suspect pool.


Of all of Rajam's investigations, only J and himself haven't been investigated. If Rajam investigated correctly we should have all the info we need.

Rajam, what were your results of toNight?

J, who did you track? If you were wise, you may have saved us significant headache.

Answer in that order. Rajam first, J second.
 

#HBC | J

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Wooooooooooooow my Rockin read. ;_; So upset at that.

Anyways, I can oblige waiting, but this game is wrapped up, I can tell you that much haha.
 
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