Sorry I did not post last night. The drive took longer than expected and I got home dead tired and just went to bed.
I know people have already said this, idc. I am seconding everything said that July should be 100% sure that Delvro is scum and her Nabe vote looked very opportunistic. I was on the fence most of this time about which side to take concerning July/Delvro (I was still previously leaning towards Delvro because of his D2 Clown crumbs), but 1618 and 1620 definitely convinced me of July's actual conviction to get Delvro lynched (despite that, from her POV, she should know Delvro is scum).
Now here is the thing, guys. Despite what everyone thinks, town will not lose with another mislynch, even if there are 3 mafia (assuming 2 mafia would be dumb). This is because we have a double voter. I completely forgot about what the implications of having a Double Voter held in terms of endgaming but, as I was brainstorming courses of action yesterday while driving into the city, I remembered that town could still pull off a lynch even with numerical parity.
However. Now that scum knows this, they will obviously try and take out Joey asap. There is just one problem for them, though. We still have our doctor alive.
This is why we should lynch July toDay.
We need to lynch one of July/Delvro to find out which of the other is lying. However, waiting until tomorrow to do this would be a mistake. Why?
Because we don't have the cushion of a mislynch tomorrow. ToNight, knowing that they can't hit Joey directly because he will be protected by Clown, scum will be forced to kill the doctor first. With that, we will enter toMorrow (the game still going regardless) knowing that Delvro is the tracker (with a july scum flip) or that he is scum (with a july town flip). If we wait until tomorrow to lynch one of Delvro/July, the doctor will most likely be dead by that following Night and another mislynch + Joey NK (nothing will stop them from doing this) will endgame us.
If Clownbot agrees to protect Joey and Ryker plays it safe with his recruitment we will bag a definite scum along with a scumNabe toMorrow.
Now, stop. I know what you are thinking already. "But Kuz, there might be a scum roleblocker and a town roleblocker!"
I already considered this as well (I had a long *** drive to think) and I just can't see this being the case. First off, if there is a scum roleblocker, its July (as we have confirmed she is a RBer). Second, I have read the last few pages of almost every game in SWF (and looked at the role PMS) and I have never seen both a town roleblocker and a scum roleblocker present in any type of setup (large games included). It just does not happen.
July said:
I was just using it as an example that roles can be manipulated, and if either Axel or Delvro are not scum then that has to be the case >< my previous assumption was that Delvro had to be lying, but I'm now dealing with the fact that he could have been tricked. Like, really, **** it all, I'm allowed to get ****ing confused at some point when things don't make sense. I'm going with Nabe toDay because his Lady Gaga pretty face claim really can't be tested unlike night actions can, and it reeks of scumminess. Delvro or Axel will prove they are scum toMorrow, or toNight, and I can't freaking wait til that happens.
Nice AtE. First you were
sure that Delvro was scum, then you were still sure he was scum but Nabe could die first, now you consider the possibility that Delvro is town and that some far-fetched mafia PR is messing with your results. It does not seem you are very sure of anything, and your conviction to lynch Delvro is very weak.
Also, July, you obviously have been posting frantically, as you would have not made such a reaching accusation on Axel if you had been in your right state of mind. Axel is confirmed town at this point (unless you don't believe Swiss/Ryker is town). Swiss/Ryker just told us that if he mis-recruits, he dies. He already successfully recruited Axel, which confirms Axel as town. How did you miss this important tell when pressure began to shift your way? Instead of holding strong that Delvro was scum, you caved onto Nabe to get a lynch off toDay and then (once people questioned you for this change of stance) bring up the idea that both Axel & Delvro are probably scum but, then again, maybe they're not (due to some other mafia PR distorting things).
Between the roleblock flavor mixup, wishy-washy stances, Delvro's claim, incorrect accusations and blatant AtE, you are flipping scum. Regardless, we are set tomorrow even if your flip turns sour, which it wont.
Unvote
Vote: July
Don't get me wrong, Nabe is still scum, but I realized he is not the play toDay. We should determine which of July/Delvro is scum toDay while we still have a guaranteed toMorrow.
whatevs, I said I trust the town to come to the right decisions in light of my death and I mean that. I'm really sorry my midterms and my mafia breakdown happened right now, but it is what it is. Kuz if you are town, win this game and please don't just write off Axel and Swiss as town. Axel, if you are town, then I think that means Swiss is too so Kuz and Nabe are scum, easy : )