I was able to do it on FD by doing a fullhop, then conserving the DJ for the SA.
If the problem is how high the UpB goes, like I said, move-specific gravity seems to be possible and I'll use it to fix TL's UpB.
Anyway, here's a quick painless version of what I wanted to say...I think <_<:
TL is a hit and run character in the literal sense of the term. He literally does a lot of running away, he depends on the air for his tactics but he needs ground to fall on to refresh his jumps.
His aerial mobility is mediocre, tying with Ike of all people. Therefore he can't be like Jigglypuff and float about with the potential to hit. He lacks the range or power to do so. People WILL risk trading hits with you, and MOST of the time, you WILL get the shorter end of the stick.
So it's important that you can get your *** down if you're getting pressured from above. His official B+ physics have a really high fastfall for this purpose.
However, we must ask, IS Toon Link Jigglypuff? WHY should he be as floaty as Jiggs? If you still play vBrawl (I don't), you'll know TL feels he's kinda in the middle between "heavy" of vB and "light" of vB. In B+ he looks like he's a feather even though he's not even known for weaving or spacing with aerials.
Plus unlike Marth, which has commitment lag on his aerials, but has power, speed, and above average range (or if we were still talking Melee, SUPERIOR range) alongside it, making it so the risks he takes are worth it. Especially true with the unpolished shieldstun currently in the game (tipped frame traps ;( ). TL only has speed, but his attacks have roughly the same commitment lag but lack in all other areas.
It's not what he's good for, the physics were unpolished and made to cater to a type of play TL isn't specifically good at. Sure you can do combos like bair > spin attack, but even if it's not a legit combo anymore, who cares? If you lose one situational aspect, but gain more commonplace ones, it's a small loss for a big gain. Plus, you can still bair, DJ and bait with say a bair, get the read and SA, or pull out the uair and follow their airdodge.
But yeah, if UpB height is the problem, it can be fixed.
He isn't made to be 'elegant.' He is made to play dirty, play like a ***, and be as obnoxious as a little kid with a new toy when he gets the opening. =V
Oh, and Dema, I meant that I love Roy-esque physics, and if it weren't for the fact that it ***** recoveries, I feel it flows really well with a lot of the characters. If TL had no projectiles I'd give him Roy-esque physics as they'd make stuff like nair and stuff safer cuz the ALR is less than normal air winddown.
ill try testing the .pac when i get home tonight. ill give feedback then
Cool beans, I'll be waiting. =V
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