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Bust a Move/Puzzle Bobble Mafia..... GAME OVER!

BarDulL

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Actually, no, I'm fairly confident JD is scum. He has tried to double back on his reads too many times with flimsy reasoning. I have no remorse with this lynch. I don't want his reads, he will only prove his inconsistency and scummy non committal.

Vote: JD

I don't see any point in continuing this day phase.

:phone:
 

Jdietz43

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Full reads if you would JD. Don't just quit on us. Even if we do eventually lynch you, your reads would be very helpful.
RR is ok, Bardull pushing him seems grimy

Vinyl is as dumb as a rock and might even be scum

Bardull feels scummiest

BSP mostly fine

Riddle rather null but fine for now

Tako clear but useless

Gogogo I want to be done with this trainwreck.
 

sneakytako

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RR is ok, Bardull pushing him seems grimy

Vinyl is as dumb as a rock and might even be scum

Bardull feels scummiest

BSP mostly fine

Riddle rather null but fine for now

Tako clear but useless

Gogogo I want to be done with this trainwreck.
I disagree with almost every read.

Vinyl is clearly town, look at his census callout and the people who have been killed. Particularly Rake's lynch clears vinyl 100%.

Bardul is null. You play town but scum can win playing very townish. No reason to confirm scum, but no reason not to keep suspecting. Consider it a compliment.

BSP - scum lean. Mostly repeating what others have said, but not sure if this dooms him into becoming scum.

Riddle - Null-town. Probably the person I trust most after vinyl.

RR - considering what happened N1/N2, I consider him low priority either way. We have no way of knowing how many scum are left, if there is only one scum left it is impossible for RR to have NKed kantrip twice. Thus we know that if there is scum that isn't RR left.

Vote: JD.
 

BarDulL

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Everyone is so paranoid of my slot, like if someone can point out something legit then maybe I can see it, but all my reads have been legit and my play has been completely genuine. Outside of paranoia, no one has given me anything substantial. Riddle mentioned something w.r.t connections/inklings, but he was vague about it and not clear. On that note, after looking at my play, I don't see myself being connected to 194 in a scummy manner whatsoever (because a connections case implies that I have to be scum with 194...), so that's kind of whack on his part and I want him to go in-depth with that toDay or toMorrow, either or.

JD is definitely the play though, I don't see this day ending any other way. If you have something of merit RR outside of your whack paranoia of my slot, then out it, but otherwise JD should be hammered for sure.
 

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I don't care if you don't want him at L-1. Until you give me good reasoning for it, no one's going to budge for you.
 

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I've got midterms coming, hence my low activity for a bit. I'll be back in action soonish.
 

John2k4

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With 7 alive, it takes 4 to lynch!

BarBell(1): JDitz
BSP(1): Vinyl
JDitz(2): Riddle, BarBell


Not Voting(3): Red Ruy, BSP, Sneakytako

Deadline is set to: October 6th, 11:59PM MST
 

Vinylic.

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He's talking about my role, apparently.

After flavor claim was made, there were 4 animals and census said 3, which meant one of them wasn't an animal bit an Indy dragon, which was kantrip. The thing is, we didn't lynch kantrip, a scum goon shot him at night.
 

BarDulL

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If Vinyl was scum, Vinyl would have pushed for Kantrip's lynch after the Census Taker ability was used because he would have known that Kantrip was the Indy after Kantrip claimed jailer; he would have known that Kantrip was the liar in the entire dilemma because Kantrip had no reason to still be alive after being shot if he was really the jailer. Furthermore, Vinyl's Census Taker ability was too accurate; no one counter claimed machine when there was only one machine in the game (Rake), thus we can safely assume it is a legit role. Finally, if you analyze the role itself, you'll notice that scumVinyl would have ended up putting 194 at risk because 194 was an animal. This could have severely hurt scumVinyl's own faction because there was a good chance that 194 would have been forced to be lynched before Kantrip, forcing a theoretical domino effect that would result in lynch after lynch until the non-animal was caught. Really, the role is meant to capture scum and is the definite town investigative of this set up. Anyone still thinking Vinyl is scum after his ability use is either scum or dumb...or both.

I haven't decided where I want to go yet after JD's flip, but if JD flips scum and the game isn't over, BSP/Riddle/RR are obviously on my hit list, RR/BSP before Riddle. Reasoning is that Riddle isn't that scummy despite the "connections" claim he made earlier about my slot. Seemed more like he was talking out of his *** because frankly I don't see myself really being connected to 194 in a scummy way, but I'm guessing he was just trying to fuel his own paranoia of my slot more than anything else. Either way, I still want Riddle to explain himself in that regard. Riddle also isn't scummily connected to JD/194, so I feel comfortable with this route. RR would be the first one I'd hardbody because he's trying to stall the lynch again just like he did with 194, he's also scummily connected to 194 and man I'd just love to hardbody that slot. BSP has more or less been sitting on his hands and not being pro-town for a majority of the game, but I don't really see him as being connected to JD in a scummy fashion. I'd probably go RR > BSP > Riddle once push comes to shove.
 

Jdietz43

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@RR: You clearly aren't subscribing to the JD scum idea, so who are you looking at instead?


@Bardull: Drop the parts where you use JD scum connections to decide your next move (it won't end up meaning anything). Where do you go when I flip town.
 

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I really just want to finish this day with BSP lynched.

Screw convincing, I have a whole gut read on him screaming "I'm scum and I'm trying to lead and act townie to every person as much as possible".
 

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I really just want to finish this day with BSP lynched.

Screw convincing, I have a whole gut read on him screaming "I'm scum and I'm trying to lead and act townie to every person as much as possible".
I might be inclined to join you on it later... I want to hear a little more out of Bardull and RR first.
 

BarDulL

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Vinyl, JD is the correct play fo sho. If JD flips Town then I'd consider the BSP lynch and probably pursue it with you, but he isn't a priority right now. JD is just too scummy to let him go for another day phase.

JD, in all honesty, it really isn't worth talking about because no amount of theory craft changes the fact that you easily have the most potential to be scum out of the entire living roster at this point in time. There's also the fact that a town flip would require me to reread this game to really figure out who scum is.

mfw JD talks about joining Vinyl when JD thinks Vinyl is scum. Can we please just kill him off already?
 

Jdietz43

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Start the re-read then. It will take awhile.

I'm not saying killing me isn't the right move either: but you're going to have to take the next step after you figure out I'm just terrible.
 

BarDulL

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I'm not rereading unless I know I have to reread. I'm not letting you worm your way out of a lynch and whether you like it or not, you're getting hardbodied.
 

BarDulL

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Zzzz.

Vinyl, you gotta understand the logic I'm postulating and where I'm coming from. JD is REALLY scummy and he's just trying to worm his way out of a lynch at this point, so of course I'm going to come off as getting aggro because there's no reason why I feel he should live. I'm THAT confident that he's scum, you know what I mean?

@JD - RR's scum read on me is fueled off paranoia and nothing else, he has no credibility to his name at this point and I doubt he's going to suddenly find avenues of information that will somehow swing the lynch away from you that I haven't already looked into. We have time of course so I don't mind waiting to see what he comes up with, but like I said, I doubt it.
 

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@JD - RR's scum read on me is fueled off paranoia and nothing else, he has no credibility to his name at this point and I doubt he's going to suddenly find avenues of information that will somehow swing the lynch away from you that I haven't already looked into. We have time of course so I don't mind waiting to see what he comes up with, but like I said, I doubt it.
@Bold: Can you cite where RR said you were his target? Why do you feel that way (I don't recall RR ever saying anything more than to wait because he had comments)

@Underlined: If you don't mind waiting, then unvote.
 

BarDulL

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I was supposedly RR's "strongest scum read" at the end of D3 and coming into D4. Also considering the fact that he's showed no signs of pushing Riddle/BSP/You, it's a safe bet that he's going to try to turn towards my direction again.

Dare I ask why that question was important. :rolleyes:
 
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