Bust a Move/Puzzle Bobble Mafia..... GAME OVER!

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Deitz wagon was disgusting.

But him wanting to off tako wasn't good either.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm wondering where the useless BSP is coming from what I read, he isn't getting noticed is all I am seeing.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I was thinking more along the lines of indy really. Let me re-read and see if I still even remotely feel that way or if I'm talking out of my ***.

(Sorry in advance for this guys... I probably shouldn't jump on mafia right after taking afternoon long sleeps)

Nice read Jay.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

btw meant that as setting alarms a bit since he called Kantrip Indy specifically.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Wait a sec...


>hunting for indies
>hasn't read
>backpedaling

Putting Jdietz above RR on my scumscale. Putting Jdietz as solid scum. Would submit to a Jdietz quicklynch.

He practically ignored the 194 wagon, comes into this Day with vibes and suspicions on players, saying that he doesn't think they're connected to 194, but rather thinks they're indies. This is a scum-slip, as he clearly wasn't looking for connections, looking for scum, or probably even reading the game. Then he tries to cover it all up with "I haven't even read, disregard this and let me be real now". Throw AtE and useless comments on top of that, and you have someone I would feel confident in letting Bardull shoot. It's a shame the gun was but a lie.

Die die die

Vote: Jdietz

This may very well be Kantrip seeing what he knew happened during the night, pointed to Deitz when he called him indy, but it's heavy into WIFOM.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Gotta stop there for right now, need to do other things then bed, but I shall return.

 

[Jdietz43]

Nice read Jay.

Lasagna Jay is redeemed once more.

(also am I the only one who did a double-take when suddenly there was someone named "Potassium" in the thread? It wasn't hard to figure out... but lol)

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

But I do need to ask before bed, what made you say indy and not mafia?

 

[Jdietz43]

I believe at the time that's what I was looking out for. On the assumption there was a 2 man scum team (and at that point I also assumed you were the second man) that was what I was looking for. Kantrip gave me that feel like he was looking out for just him, I'd have to re-read to give you specifics.

My only regret is just assuming that I had no idea what I was talking about and backing down when I got screamed at by scum.

 

[BarDulL]

No, that had nothing to do with it. JD's play on D2 was unparalleled whackness.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Bardull thoughts on what I posted?

 

[Jdietz43]

Upon a glance at that day, I believe the fact Kantrip was the first one to start banging the abductor drum with such surety after having been standoffish D1 was what prompted my feelings. It's hard to say for sure after so much time has passed.

 

[Jdietz43]

Oh I remember now, that and the 194 killing. The way Kantrip went about it lent itself to not being a partner while still being opportunistic. It seemed like a lynch based on so little to me (though it ended up being correct).

 

[BarDulL]

I'll look them over again, some stuff I agreed with, some I didn't. Hold on.

 

[BarDulL]

The ... was for 10char dodging lol.

I'm not sure how I feel about the 194/Bardull connection case. I'd like a more in-depth explanation from RR on why he thinks the 194 posts he quoted are indicative of TvS rather than SvS interaction, before a formulate a more concrete opinion.

I gotta ask ya what possible inkling from my interaction with 194 actually indicates SvS. If you're really just not biting into paranoia, you've got me lost.

Hell, you still haven't told me your connections/inkling theory, I'd love to hear it.

 

[BarDulL]

But don't miss the fact that he falsely stated that I had a scum read on Joker at that point, when I had never even given a read on Joker up to that point.

This isn't indicative of alignment. If I actually did say this, it was via miscommunication. You think I would try to get away with lying about someone's read on someone else when said person is still alive? Graspy.

 

[BarDulL]

Think you're stretching on BSP, I have to reread his case on 194. I don't remember BSP doing anything really except ride popular opinion or sit on his hands.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

He explained it out, something you an Rake didn't do so it showed some individual thought.

 

[Riddle]

I gotta ask ya what possible inkling from my interaction with 194 actually indicates SvS. If you're really just not biting into paranoia, you've got me lost.

Hell, you still haven't told me your connections/inkling theory, I'd love to hear it.

I don't think that your interactions with 194 were SvS, I'm confused as to why those posts changed Ryu's mind about you.

The inklings/connections things is more paranoia than anything. I'm just not nearly as confident in my read on you as I am in my read on BSP. It'd take a reread to possible solidify any of those inklings.

 

[BarDulL]

He explained it out, something you an Rake didn't do so it showed some individual thought.

Individual thought =/= alignment. I could have easily made a case on 194 if I wanted to. Why do you think I voted for him?

It's also not very hard to make a case on someone who you know is scum. I actually find it easier to make a case on someone when I already know their alignment.

Also, that behavior he was exhibiting is inconsistent with the rest of his approach to the game. He has never gone out of his way to make a case on someone unless prompted, but I don't really know what that means.

 

[BarDulL]

Skimmed a bit. RR, quote the case BSP made on 194, because I don't see it. The only thing I saw of note w.r.t. BSP is this post:

Unvote

He unvotes right when 194 is put at L-1. That's the long and short of his interaction with 194.

Oh wait, I found it:

Wait, Joker never said anything about the votes on him changing his gameplan. Where'd you get that from?



You must've not been reading. This is what Joker tried to do up until he claimed.



I changed "BSP" to "tako"

Anyway, how do you figure the bolded text? I think Joker explained what he was trying to do pretty clearly, and I didn't see any contradictions.

You're throwing votes out kinda fast without having everything down.

Vote 194

"You're throwing votes out kinda fast without having everything down."

Seriously RR? That's all BSP said w.r.t. the 194 slot, and you're trying to clear him off that? The reasoning isn't even good, it's shoddy and doesn't show why 194 is scummy. It's decent for early play because nitpicking is good for stretching the truth and pressuring slots, but really, this shouldn't tell you anything.

But really though, don't be dense. Or I'll shart all over Doc's face in post game.

^This is the best post in this game.

Funnily enough, I had more to say about 194 in my reads list right below BSP's "case" on 194. I don't really understand why you're trying to play favoritism with the BSP slot, RR.

@Riddle - I'm actually pretty disappointed to hear that tbqh.

 

[BarDulL]

Riddle, it's kinda sorta important that you reread. I'm one townie mother****er, so you reading BSP as solid Town (wtf?) and not me worries me substantially.

 

[BarDulL]

Cue JD calling out hypocrisy, but even if I reread JD's slot, I still wouldn't think he was Town. Read JD's play on D2 and that should be a wrap for his slot.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm not playing favoritism, I'm looking at each slot and trying to figure out if him bussing there as the third vote was something he would do.

I'm not seeing it from how he has been posting and interacting with 194.

 

[BarDulL]

I'm not playing favoritism, I'm looking at each slot and trying to figure out if him bussing there as the third vote was something he would do.

I'm not seeing it from how he has been posting and interacting with 194.

Dude, you were more or less stretching the truth with your "BSP wrote a case and showed individual thought w.r.t. 194," but REALLY, it was a "short one line segment that was reachy." Outside of that, he was not pushing for 194's lynch. In fact, he kept saying "194 should answer those questions or he can go." He never said "194 is scum." He was leaving himself a window of opportunity to exit out of the train and potentially dismantle it once 194 answered those questions.

Distancing scum mates isn't impossible here. His unvote on 194 is also timely and was meant to avoid a quick lynch.

Can you tell me how this is indicative of TownBSP?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I think his approach is more townie than let's say Riddle who avoided it til it really picked up in speed.

 

[BarDulL]

Do you think Riddle was intentionally avoiding lynching 194 when he was supposedly split on Vinyl/194?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I do with how he voted and then only developed his Vinyl suspicion in that post.

He only hopped on when there was 4-5 people on him asking for a claim. Only then did he go on the wagon.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vote: Riddle

Placeholder vote.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Why the **** was rake lynched D3, I'm so mad at that.

 

[BarDulL]

Think you're stretching the truth again.

Vote: Vinyl.

I'm not liking either Vinyl or 194 right now. A lot of fluff, almost no useful information, and they both seem quite opportunistic as far as their reads go. I'd like to see a lot more content from both of them, and less complaints about how "out of it" they are.

Vinyl's discussion of BSP in particular doesn't sit particularly well with me, which is why I chose to vote him, but I would be fine with lynching either of them. They'd make good vigilante targets too (*cough*BarDulL*cough*).

This reads as fine, his logic isn't fraudulent. Unless you can point out something wrong with this, we're at an impasse. This was an accurate description of Vinyl's/194's play and there's nothing wrong with this vote. This is more believable than BSP's shoddy reasoning of 194 scum.

 

[BarDulL]

Why the **** was rake lynched D3, I'm so mad at that.

That Vinyl hammer.

But really, Rake had no business pushing for Kantrip the way he did alongside the logic he was using. Seemed like a scumRake push on IndyKantrip because he knew Kantrip was BP. Also, him jumping on board with a Vinyl spurred mass claim was just dumb. I forget what else, it has been a while. Anyway, decided to mount pressure on him to get a better read, but his logic literally made no sense. And then Vinyl hammered.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Think you're stretching the truth again.



This reads as fine, his logic isn't fraudulent. Unless you can point out something wrong with this, we're at an impasse. This was an accurate description of Vinyl's/194's play and there's nothing wrong with this vote. This is more believable than BSP's shoddy reasoning of 194 scum.

It's just a blanket statement, no meat to it other than what he says about Vinyl., that vote doesn't look good from a grand scheme and what 194 flipped.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Bardull do you agree with me lynching Riddle>BSP/JD>BSP/JD will be GG for scum?

 

[Vinylic.]

BSP first.

 

[BarDulL]

Riddle has no business going first. JD and BSP, then Riddle. I'm not going to argue with you about this. With the chance of two scum still being out there, it makes no sense putting Riddle at the forefront considering that he has been much more townie than the other two slots. Don't really understand your reasoning for Riddle being above JD/BSP on the scumscale when JD is easily the biggest scumbag. BSP has been sitting on his hands and you've been trying to write him off as being Townie, but you couldn't be further than the truth.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Do you have anything other than gut reasoning Vinyl, show me why he is scum.

 

[BarDulL]

Everyone who has BSP as Town should explain why, because I'm not biting into RR's logic. BSP's case DOES NOT disconnect BSP from 194 as potential mates.

 

[BarDulL]

It's not even a case, it's a one line segment made up of shoddy reasoning.

 

[BSP]

You're still giving riddle too much credit for his play