Bust a Move/Puzzle Bobble Mafia..... GAME OVER!

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

No voting just mass claim again.

 

[BarDulL]

You're not really in a position to be assertive here, RR. I'll agree that Riddle should claim though if he hasn't already (don't remember his claim) and I see no harm in anyone else claiming who hasn't already claimed.

 

[BarDulL]

On another note, voting is fine. We are very likely not in LyLo, so everyone can vote without worry.

While I'm at it, Riddle, although I've more or less given you a free pass for a majority of the game, I didn't see a lot of content from you on D2/D3. I'm going to have to revert you back to being kind of null and I'm going to have to ask you to out your reads as well as elaborate explanations for why. Would also like to know what direction you feel this Town should go in.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Bardull be quiet finish a mass claim.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Bar dull addresses BSP's post or we lynch he's not walking away from it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

On another note, voting is fine. We are very likely not in LyLo, so everyone can vote without worry.

While I'm at it, Riddle, although I've more or less given you a free pass for a majority of the game, I didn't see a lot of content from you on D2/D3. I'm going to have to revert you back to being kind of null and I'm going to have to ask you to out your reads as well as elaborate explanations for why. Would also like to know what direction you feel this Town should go in.

If he is so pbvious town, why do you question his alignment here of his activity?

 

[BarDulL]

I'm not going to get into a petty back and forth with you, RR. If you continue pushing against my slot, I'll hardbody your slot to the ground. You literally have no reason to be reading me as scum, and I'm not going to let you try and lead Town in the wrong direction when you already have a questionable claim that you supposedly "wifom'd." Not biting it. Your claim is perfect for scum to claim with and your play has been absolutely deplorable.

You also have no reason to tell everyone to not scum hunt and to not vote. That's what I'm trying to do. Why should we wait for a mass claim to finish before we start scum hunting? You have no reason for doing this, you're just trying to establish thread control, but you're doing it in the wrong way.

Vinyl, Tako, if RR continues to push against my slot with a faulty premise and tries to lead Town, promise me you'll hardbody him with me.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

So I'm lying, where is the cc to my protective claim? If not, then I am the only role that interacts with night kills.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Last scum is in.

Bardull, riddle, JD, BSP. Only lynch between these four.

I will reread later

 

[Vinylic.]

I used to think this; The less, the easier.

Let's put this to good use.

Vote: Jdietz

 

[BarDulL]

So I'm lying, where is the cc to my protective claim? If not, then I am the only role that interacts with night kills.

This isn't good reasoning because it's already difficult enough as it is to perform set up speculation. Considering that there's an abductor/vote blocking mafia slot, and that there's also a new role called "census taker" which is essentially a means to give town one free scum, I can't say with certainty as to whether or not there's a commuter. I CAN say however that you haven't played like a commuter at all on the premise that "you don't like the role," but that isn't a good enough excuse to not play like a commuter. Combined with your D1 play, you're not excused from being lynched whatsoever.

 

[Vinylic.]

And quit it, RR.

You've claimed from jailer to commuter. The fact that you did that is enough for me to lynch you.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Vinyl I never claimed jailer stop being horrible at reading

 

[BarDulL]

You claimed a protective role, and THEN claimed commuter.

I gotta ask you RR, why didn't you just claim a protective role and then BAIT the night kill, then use the commuter ability?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Bardull most if not all set-ups have a protective, if no one claims a role that interacts with the night kill, I'm cleared. I don't play well with these kinds of roles, I said this after U Trick'd when I had the exact same role post game

I don't ever play to draw the night kill, I never did that in U trick'd, hell you tried to investigate me in that game.

My playstyle never works with this role nor BP.

Yes it is very possible Bardull, if no one claims a protective then how did Kantrip know there was no Jailer? Hint he saw my role when he abducted me. No one even tried to CC him on this claim.

You can't ignore this

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

You claimed a protective role, and THEN claimed commuter.

I gotta ask you RR, why didn't you just claim a protective role and then BAIT the night kill, then use the commuter ability?

Because everyone wanted my claim, hint you asked for it.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Commuter
Commuter
Alias:

Coward

Alignment:

Pro-town

Role type:

Protective
Passive

Choice:

None

The Commuter is a role that "leaves Town" each Night, thus making them ineligible to be targeted by Night actions. By extension, they cannot use any Night actions they may have.

Because they cannot use Night actions, almost all Commuters are pro-Town.

It is worth noting that because in flavor it physically leaves the game for the Night instead of being protected somewhere in Town, Commuter is considered the ultimate in Untargetability, trumping even things like Strongman.
Variations

Most Commuters cannot Commute each Night. Instead, they generally have Odd-Night or Even-Night modifiers attached.

Alternatively, they may be X-Shot and need to choose if they want to Commute each Night.
Use and Power

Commuter blends all the strongest aspects of Bulletproof and Ascetic. It is futile to target them at all while they commute. However, the only roles that may be helpful if they targeted the Commuter are investigative, so in all other cases, Commuter is strong and difficult to use improperly.
Play Advice

Commuter is not an implausible scum fakeclaim, as it explains immunity to kills and (occasionally) blocked actions. If you are an X-Shot Commuter, keep this in min

This isn't rocket science.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Source: http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Commuter

 

[BarDulL]

I've played games that don't have protective roles, so your logic is invalid. Considering we may even be working with a 2 man scum team, the likelihood of a protective seems less likely. I'm not letting you ride to LyLo with the claim of commuter when it's such an easy role for scum to claim. I'm not going to go in circles with you about this right now because there's no point, but you're not leading Town. Ask questions and scum hunt if you want, but quit telling everyone to not vote/mass claim when there's no reason for it. You're just being anti-town by trying to shut off all avenues of information and it's not helping.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I refuse to listen to you on leading town.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm not telling people shut off information I'm telling them to fill the gaps in.

Census Taker
Commuter
Mason
???
???
???
???

Help me them fill in the blanks.

 

[BarDulL]

Then it's your loss. You have no reason to not agree with me and let me pursue scum hunting routes as opposed to mass claiming. You're telling people to NOT vote and to instead follow your whacky mass claim direction that won't lead us anywhere substantial. If you don't back down, then I'll have to lynch you for it. Otherwise, you'll correctly scum hunt and not try to push people for terrible reasoning.

Speaking of which, you said you wanted me dead, and now you're saying "choose between those 4 people." Where did that change come from?

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

I'm not telling people shut off information I'm telling them to fill the gaps in.

Census Taker
Commuter
Mason
???
???
???
???

Help me them fill in the blanks.

Help me fill in the blanks.

 

[Vinylic.]

4 Vanilla Townies.

Possibly two fakeclaims.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Did riddle claim VT?

 

[BarDulL]

Speaking of which, you said you wanted me dead, and now you're saying "choose between those 4 people." Where did that change come from?

Answer this question.

Also, if the rest of the slots are all VTs, RR is still not cleared.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Bardull is a VT?

BSP is a VT?

JD is a VT?

Riddle is a VT?

 

[BarDulL]

Vote: RR

Purposely ignoring my question. Vinyl, vote for RR with me until he gets off his high horse, otherwise we're lynching him.

 

[BarDulL]

If he is so pbvious town, why do you question his alignment here of his activity?

Missed this. Because he hasn't done jack **** in the last day phase. He needs to speak up, I'm not leaving room for error.

 

[Vinylic.]

Did riddle claim VT?

Bardull is a VT?

BSP is a VT?

JD is a VT?

Riddle is a VT?

Whatever point you have doesn't mean jack. And if you have any other people you may find scummy here, please go for that person and disregard bardull.

I already told you to save it.

 

[Vinylic.]

What makes things even worse is their inactivity.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Whatever point you have doesn't mean jack. And if you have any other people you may find scummy here, please go for that person and disregard bardull.

I already told you to save it.

Vinyl I just want a mass claim to see if anything can help clear others and make this game better for town, I want confirmation that people are VTs or PRs so I can reread with those in mind.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Answer this question.

Also, if the rest of the slots are all VTs, RR is still not cleared.

Yes I am because I am the only protective in the game.

 

[Shun Goku Satsu Rake]

Bah\
go town

 

[BarDulL]

Yes I am because I am the only protective in the game.

No, it doesn't clear you. Quit using bad logic while attempting to be assertive.

 

[BarDulL]

Need more votes on RR until he stops being anti-town, or we can just lynch him. I also want to know why sudden he went from "KILL BARDULL KILL BARDULL" to "Oh, we can lynch one of these four people." Read change makes no sense.

 

[Vinylic.]

Unvote

Got a few things to do. Gonna play some minecraft.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

No, it doesn't clear you. Quit using bad logic while attempting to be assertive.

Bardull, you think John would not put a protective in the game with a mafia faction and an Abductor?

 

[BarDulL]

Bardull, you think John would not put a protective in the game with a mafia faction and an Abductor?

It's possible, not 100% "oh my god it must be in the game there is no other option" like you've been postulating. Either way, still don't buy your claim because it doesn't match how you've been playing and your excuse for not playing that way is a scummy cop out. Scum in your position would say the exact same thing, and no one can disprove your commuter claim at this point. Commuter is also a role that scum, as I've said a zillion times, can safely claim. How many times do I have to say this?

 

[BarDulL]

Can you answer my question now, or are you going to keep trying to dodge it?