Brawl+ renamed to brawl: insert idea here?

[jalued]

hmmm
I liked Brawl+
Or maybe since it's all 3 games, we can name it Smash+
Discuss.

if there are people still wanting to talk, then ill keep this thread open discuss away

 

[Finns7]

It will add more confusion if we change the name :/

Brawl+ is fine to me

 

[cman]

For it to be changed, the advantages of changing it would have to outweigh the disadvantage of lots of confusion. I don't think its worth it to change it, though brawl+ would sound pretentious to people who don't know that it meant brawl+mods, so I see where you are coming from. In either case, I think most of the commotion is over people not wanting the brawl they like to be replaced by something else. The same thing happened over melee vs brawl

 

[Shell]

Any suffix on the title 'brawl' will always come across as sounding superior to the original, regardless of what it is. Adding a + on the end in particular implies that whatever Brawl was, this Brawl+ is more than that and therefore better
Since what Brawl+ is is more of a modification than an addition, I think the + is pretty misleading.



I also object to the usage of the term vBrawl to describe the original, unmodified version. Unlike Brawl+, vBrawl is clearly a slander, implying that the original is ordinary and boring and inferior.

I don't necessarily agree with this. Plus suggests a gain or an addition (in this case more options, more refined balance) -- that is its denotation. However, any connotation that this makes the game better is purely up to the player.

Also, there's nothing wrong with the term "Vanilla ______." Vanilla carries no connotations, it merely suggests being unmodified. This is standard fare for any game.

What do you want? "Brawl Different, But The Original's Good, Too, We're Not Hating on it, Trust Us"....?

^_^

 

[IC3R]

Why don't we call it "Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Plus Edition"?

It can be shortened to Brawl: Plus Edition, which can be further shortened to Brawl+.

Sounds awesome


Besides, if we changed the name, I'd have to change my awesome sig and avatar D:

 

[BEES]

Super Smash Bros. Skirmish would work, but they might use that name for the next game, so it's probably not safe.

I think it needs to be an acronym

Brawl with Advanced Tactical Strategies
*BATS*

 

[¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯]

aw well, it needed to be made

No it didn't.

 

[Negi-Kun]

Artificial Brawl
Brawl Tofu

 

[BurningCrusader777]

Super Smash Bros. Hitstun
<_<

I don't know though. Brawl+ is a fine name, but Brawl: Competitive Edition could work.

 

[Gigas_Deth]

I honestly like the name as it is, and don't see much need for change. If people are ignorant enough to deny the goodness of Brawl+, that's their loss.

 

[CyberGlitch]

I vote it be named "Brawl Better"

Seriously, though, Brawl+ is a short name that does a good job of summarizing what the project is while making clear the game the project modifies. It also makes it easy to denote when you are talking about the modded form for the game (Instead of saying "Link can use this strategy in Brawl NEWNAME," you can just say Link+ can use this strategy").


As far as I'm concerned, Brawl+ is just supposed to add to Brawl, fill in the holes that make Brawl's style of gameplay unappealing for a good segment of the competitive community. I simply have more fun playing it. That might sound arrogant, but seriously...can't people have opinions?

 

[shadowtroop]

Smash+ is good too...

 

[Ryose]

*ignore this post*

 

[Sterowent]

hmm, a lot of this thread is awfully dismissive. I haven't seen much public debate on this, but i can see both points.

I could see where changing the name would have advantages. as mentioned, first early impressions when the project had some major modifications that didn't sit well with a majority of this site's brawl community(MAD, WDing) and the subsequent spreading of skepticism in the project as a whole, well...that still lingers it seems like. I couldn't say if it's waning a very noticeable amount or not at this point. I'll lean noticeable though.

However, the great advantages of not changing the name are ever-growing and will continue to do so. B+ has an established name in the community at this point. Sure, its influence isn't mountain moving, but the name is recognizable and widespread on youtube, at the least. Hell, some tourneys are using it as well. Not only that, but the name's simple and is easy to abbreviate, which is great on the ol' intarwebs.

There are disadvantages, but they're constant (edit: and older, which leans towards them eventually becoming stale) and won't be alleviated through a name change, since, at this point, complainers will still cling to the project as an Idea and not a name. Everyone using the name publicly somehow would be inconvenienced and some overall momentum the project has will be lost as well, i'd bet.

Am i missing something? i tried to be as factual as possible here rather than harsh, eheh.

 

[Some_Kind_of_JokÈ?]

i think the name Brawl+ is good.

if I HAD to change it, i probably would call it ...idk B+ is just a better name than anything else. :D

 

[zephyrnereus]

how about brawl unleashed?

OH I KNOW!

in the final version we add ganon's sword and falcon's yes! knee

then we call it, Brawl: Feat. Ganonforf with a SWORD and the HYESZ knee

XP

 

[sMexy-Blu]

Smash+

SSBB Metaknight

 

[Collective of Bears]

Brawl+ is fine. Don't change it.

 

[cAm8ooo]

I always thought Brawl+ was trying to be Melee 2.0

As for a new name, I don't really care since I havn't even played Brawl+ because nobody cares about the PAL codes.

What are you talkin about? There is a PAL codeset right under the other one in the Plussery. PAL players can play brawl+ too.

 

[Cross.]

Brawl: HDremix

 

[BBQ°]

Smash+

It has a nice ring to it. And it flows nicely. And it feeds the hungry.

 

[Team Giza]

Super Smash Bros Jiang

It sounds quite fitting to name it after the great regulator.

Spoiler

Brawl+ is fine

 

[Clever_Sleazoid]

Changing it would be the dumbest idea yet.

 

[BEES]

It's not going to be changed. People have already accepted the name. Brawl+ sounds kind of arrogant. Probably should have chosen a different name initially, but it's too late now.

 

[King Funk]

Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Fusion --> the idea of mixing the gamestyles of all three games to create something new.

 

[1048576]

Draconic Reverse.

 

[exfatal]

brawl revolution

 

[Seagull Joe]

ssba-super smash brothers awesomeness

 

[-Linko-]

Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Hyper Turbo Fighting

Street Fighter references go!

I agree with this one. Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Turbo.

 

[Pierce7d]

I don't play Brawl+. I don't like Brawl+. I don't care what the name of Brawl+ is or becomes.

That being said, I think you'd be better off leaving the name of Brawl+ as it is. I don't take offense to the name, as I understand you were trying to imply that "It's more than just Brawl" which is fair. This community has never been elitist, and should simply ignore people giving you a hard time for the name Brawl+. It's both easy to type and say, and everyone knows what it is. Convenient and popular, the name should just stay.

 

[Shell]

Pierce7d, not to go too far off topic, but by "I don't play Brawl+. I don't like Brawl+" you meant "I tried Brawl+, but didn't like it, so I won't continue to play it," right? Because that's totally respectable.

For a second there I almost thought you'd decided to not like it / never play it without actually trying it.

But your points about the name being easy and popular are very true.

 

[Problem2]

If we had to change it, I would change it to:

Super Smash Bros Brawl: Tournament Edition
Super Smash Bros Brawl: Turbo
Super Smash Bros Brawl: Hyper Fighting
Super Smash Bros Brawl: Remix

but Super Smash Bros Brawl Plus or Brawl+ is just fine. It's already become a well established name, so changing it would cause more problems than it's worth.

 

[Frozt]

If we had to change it, I would change it to:

Super Smash Bros Brawl: Tournament Edition
Super Smash Bros Brawl: Turbo
Super Smash Bros Brawl: Hyper Fighting
Super Smash Bros Brawl: Remix

How about Super Smash Bros IV ? or Super Smash Bros Alpha 3 srsly >_>

Brawl+ is perfect as it is, it isn't cocky, it denotes Superiority and it IS Superior to vB

 

[Sudai]

The only truly bad thing about the name "Brawl+" as far as I can see is...it won't show up in search engines.

The average scrub at a tournament hears about Brawl+ but isn't guided in anyway. What do they do? Google! What does Google (or any search engine for that matter) return? "Brawl" results.

For those that aren't search engine savvy, "+" is a modifier within search engines and is used to link search criteria. When you search for "Pizza pie" it's the same as searching for "Pizza+Pie" because search engines view "pizza" and "pie" as two separate entries and converts the query to search for "pizza+pie" which we interpret as ["Pizza" as well as "pie"].

TL;DR - Fux with search engine results.

PS: My explanation probably didn't clear anything up for people that didn't get it already, but oh well. I tried. :x

 

[Dan_X]

Brawl+ FTW! :D

 

[cAm8ooo]

The only truly bad thing about the name "Brawl+" as far as I can see is...it won't show up in search engines.

The average scrub at a tournament hears about Brawl+ but isn't guided in anyway. What do they do? Google! What does Google (or any search engine for that matter) return? "Brawl" results.

For those that aren't search engine savvy, "+" is a modifier within search engines and is used to link search criteria. When you search for "Pizza pie" it's the same as searching for "Pizza+Pie" because search engines view "pizza" and "pie" as two separate entries and converts the query to search for "pizza+pie" which we interpret as ["Pizza" as well as "pie"].

TL;DR - Fux with search engine results.

PS: My explanation probably didn't clear anything up for people that didn't get it already, but oh well. I tried. :x

i understand what your saying but if you search brawl+ on google or youtube you do get "brawl+" results and not just brawl. I wonder y?

 

[Frozt]

The only truly bad thing about the name "Brawl+" as far as I can see is...it won't show up in search engines.

The average scrub at a tournament hears about Brawl+ but isn't guided in anyway. What do they do? Google! What does Google (or any search engine for that matter) return? "Brawl" results.

For those that aren't search engine savvy, "+" is a modifier within search engines and is used to link search criteria. When you search for "Pizza pie" it's the same as searching for "Pizza+Pie" because search engines view "pizza" and "pie" as two separate entries and converts the query to search for "pizza+pie" which we interpret as ["Pizza" as well as "pie"].

TL;DR - Fux with search engine results.

PS: My explanation probably didn't clear anything up for people that didn't get it already, but oh well. I tried. :x

Type "Brawl+" in Google and tell me what happens please

 

[FrozenHobo]

Type "Brawl+" in Google and tell me what happens please

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[Mic_128]

If we had to change it, I would change it to:

Super Smash Bros Brawl: Tournament Edition
Super Smash Bros Brawl: Turbo
Super Smash Bros Brawl: Hyper Fighting
Super Smash Bros Brawl: Remix

I vote Super Smash Bros Brawl: Hyper Fighting Turbo Tournament Edition Remix

 

[Sukai]

I vote Super Smash Bros Brawl: Hyper Fighting Turbo Tournament Edition Remix

It should come with a slogan.
Super Smash Bros. Brawl: Hyper Fighting Turbo Tournament Edition Remix Fun Time
If Sakurai wasn't a ****ing scrub.