Brawl+ Official Codeset Gold Discussion

[Vilnius]

Any update on the issue with All-Star Mode freezing? Or should I just go post it in the support forum for Brawl+ and hope a developer decides to check it?

 

[Revven]

I believe Perfect Chaos already told you previously that it's probably because Flatzone 2 has been replaced and that you should try to play All-Star without that replaced.

 

[ManEg]

I know that auto-jab was removed, but when hold the A button near the opponent, you auto-jab combo.

Was this discussed?

 

[VietGeek]

Points to main in sig. <3

I demand more vids of Japan as well, Neko.

Just go to the Brawl+ JP Wiki: http://www15.atwiki.jp/timesplus/pages/17.html

And download the Brawl+ Gold package.

Then port all the unique stage .pacs to your RSBE pf folder or whatever instead of the RSBJ. <_<

oh yeah guys did you hear about korean barlw? leik that's pretty cool imo circles and curves obv

 

[Vilnius]

I believe Perfect Chaos already told you previously that it's probably because Flatzone 2 has been replaced and that you should try to play All-Star without that replaced.

No, he did not say this. I have no idea how to go about doing it anyway, but if anyone would inform me I could test it.

 

[h0t$]

Not sure if I should post this in here. But anyways, A quick question.

When I download a new updater. ( I use the updater for pc withoout homebrew). Should i remove everything on my sd card? Or should i just save it over the old data?

edit: if it even matters. just curious if there either way is better or not.

 

[Isatis]

Save it over the old data, you shouldn't have to worry about deleting anything from your SD card.

 

[h0t$]

Save it over the old data, you shouldn't have to worry about deleting anything from your SD card.

thank you :D

 

[goodoldganon]

I'd include that in an FAQ because it is always my friends first question. Do I need to backup my SD card is always the first question

 

[DotheDiddyMonkeyDance]

good lord 100 megs of data? from that japan site. Btw its sort of a pain to get to the download page. So I made a little guide below.

Babelfish for translating did not work for me.

A little quick guide to download 7.0.3JP B+ files
1.hit go to download page
2. Leave the top number alone which says 7.0.3 in the text
3. in the blank text enter the numbers that are displayed in the box to the right
4. you'll come to a page with a button. Hit that to download from that japaneese site.
5. Follow Viets instructions.

Then port all the unique stage .pacs to your RSBE pf folder or whatever instead of the RSBJ. <_<

 

[GHNeko]

...The US downloads are around 100MB too bro.

All you guys have used around 663GB+ of bandwidth since the start of April. :|

 

[bleyva]

...The US downloads are around 100MB too bro.

All you guys have used around 663GB+ of bandwidth since the start of April. :|

you say that as though internet isnt completely free for all to use without limit

Spoiler

:3

 

[GHNeko]

you say that as though internet isnt completely free for all to use without limit

Spoiler

:3

i had to pay extra to upgrade to a unlimited bandwidth account because ya'll hit the limit I had previously. :V

so lol.

 

[ValTroX]

so wait, what's happening? should we get the Japan B+ stages or something? I got kinda lost here.

 

[DotheDiddyMonkeyDance]

I dunno I downloaded it anyways

 

[BEES]

^^ pics/links/vids or it didn't happen.

Wtf people want the gravity changed? It's fine, it really is. If you want to see some fast-paced matches then go see the ones Seris uploaded from his tournament.

The gravity itself is still too low. It seems to me like a lot of things have too many starting/ending frames. Double jumps are still slow as molasas. Dash grabs are comically slow. We desperately need JC grabs.

Friction is definitely still too low. This is the biggest problem by far.

The slippery nature of the game makes it feel like I'm not in control of myself. I can't predict with full accuracy where I'm going to be and where my opponent will be when I land.

I think this is the biggest reason Brawl tactics are still the most effective. There would be an effective punishing game, but the friction makes working combos more spontaneous and unpredictable. It makes spacing sloppier and less reliable.

 

[jpak]

if i hv a custom codeset already and some textures, can i run brawl+ on the same sd card?

 

[FrozenHobo]

so wait, what's happening? should we get the Japan B+ stages or something? I got kinda lost here.

i'm looking at adjusting some and adding them as a possible DLC. first i need to actually get the download (college internet won't open megaupload), so it will be a while.

 

[DotheDiddyMonkeyDance]

I can host the file from filefront if you want me to

 

[FrozenHobo]

that would be very helpful, thank you.

 

[DotheDiddyMonkeyDance]

EDIT: Its up

http://www.filefront.com/16375201/7.0.3 Gold.zip

Just a FYI I just tried it out with my friend and found thats there is a problem with their common5.pac and common3.pac so keep your originals do not replace them. Also currently so far the Metal gear solid stage changes do not work so just to let you know. My game froze when trying to play on those.

 

[kaizo13]

The gravity itself is still too low. It seems to me like a lot of things have too many starting/ending frames. Double jumps are still slow as molasas. Dash grabs are comically slow. We desperately need JC grabs.

Friction is definitely still too low. This is the biggest problem by far.

The slippery nature of the game makes it feel like I'm not in control of myself. I can't predict with full accuracy where I'm going to be and where my opponent will be when I land.

I think this is the biggest reason Brawl tactics are still the most effective. There would be an effective punishing game, but the friction makes working combos more spontaneous and unpredictable. It makes spacing sloppier and less reliable.

1,000 times this ^

B+ still feels sloppy, it's like you don't have complete control over your character. and yes it is due to friction

(mostly noticeable on slopes) NPC+ feels terrible with all those slopes and no friction

 

[FrozenHobo]

EDIT: Its up

http://www.filefront.com/16375201/7.0.3 Gold.zip

Just a FYI I just tried it out with my friend and found thats there is a problem with their common5.pac and common3.pac so keep your originals do not replace them. Also currently so far the Metal gear solid stage changes do not work so just to let you know. My game froze when trying to play on those.

i'll open them up in bbox and see whats up.

 

[ValTroX]

I also feel that the friction needs some work, but I don't think it will be done, this was discussed some time ago and me and my friend got blown away by the devs. Anyways, I'm waiting on FroHo for the stages, I hope he's a little more gentle on the boundaries this time xD.

 

[GHNeko]

the boundaries from the japanese exclusive stages are good.

 

[ValTroX]

Great, well, I'll still wait for FroHo's version of the stages, guess I trust him too much on this matters
EDIT: Neko, they use the stages from the stage hacking hub too right? I mean, do they have PTAD+, LM+, NPC+ JJ+, etc etc?
EDIT2: And the ceiling->wall changes on stages like FD
EDIT3: So I tried the stages, I get freezes at RF, which i managed to fix, but temple+ won't load, and after that i just decided to keep my old folder xD, just gotta wait on FroHo

 

[Alphatron]

The friction complaints are shared, but the gravity...not so much. I believe that the gravity is good for what it is.

The important thing right now is the boundary changes and whether or not other people aside from myself are getting accidental kills off the side while just trying to gimp my opponent. I don't know.

 

[FrozenHobo]

Great, well, I'll still wait for FroHo's version of the stages, guess I trust him too much on this matters
EDIT: Neko, they use the stages from the stage hacking hub too right? I mean, do they have PTAD+, LM+, NPC+ JJ+, etc etc?
EDIT2: And the ceiling->wall changes on stages like FD
EDIT3: So I tried the stages, I get freezes at RF, which i managed to fix, but temple+ won't load, and after that i just decided to keep my old folder xD, just gotta wait on FroHo

i'll try to get to it tonight. Halo Reach beta has me distracted a little too much...

 

[ManEg]

I have no complaints about gravity. Now friction, boundaries and footstooling could use some adjustments. I think that the game would be gold perfect with these and the following suggested (but ignored) issues:

I don't know anything about how these things work, but if the B+ team has come this far, isn't it possible to make the game run custom netcode or something? Playing B+ online viably is a dream I would like to see come true.

I know that auto-jab was removed, but when hold the A button near the opponent, you auto-jab combo.

Was this discussed?

Not trying to start anything here, just want to know what was the consensus on these things.

 

[VietGeek]

@ManEg:

1) Check the Wi-Win project thread: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=269253

In my limited scope of knowledge the project CURRENTLY aims to just allow the running of "private servers" so that hacks like B+, P:M, BB, B- can have a dedicated server. Brawl uses Soap I believe, and not GGPO, or LunaPort, or wow this name is cool+, but games are peer-peer anyway, so just blame it on America blowing at Internet speed and corporations and their monopolies, blah, blah, words

2) No one had a problem with auto-jab connections ONCE you hit when it was discussed (for the most part anyway obv). There's subjectivity with the decision naturally.

 

[ManEg]

Thanks for the reply. Just went over there to check on the progression of the project...

they're stuck

 

[Dai Tian]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=273007

The jabbing issue was brought up and "answered" here.

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

i'll try to get to it tonight. Halo Reach beta has me distracted a little too much...

I'm interested in this stages myself aswell, and I would like to play B+ again, since the Fail tourney I hosted at April 24th

I want to play it but competitively and I will open my mind to consult B+ players around the island (puerto rico yes, it's an island) to make one B+ tourney to see the results

by now, I'll just rest my case and wait for FrznHobo to fix the stages that I'm so curious about

 

[Jiangjunizzy]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=273007

The jabbing issue was brought up and "answered" here.

the answer given by GoG was based on an ancient code made like a year ago and it didn't work right. project m dudes are currently working on removing them, so if anything just wait for them to figure it out i guess.

 

[Dai Tian]

Yeah, hence the quotes I put around answered.

 

[Slashy]

Here is a Brawl+ tournament I'm holding on Saturday.

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=273272

 

[FrozenHobo]

have fixed freezing, now i'm working on that SSE/Frigate fusion (testing now). i support their distant planet SSE substitute as well as their SMI replacements (assuming we use the code to select each form). their green greens is nice, but may need to be sped up so the blocks fall mroe frequently. still need to test castle siege. i'm deciding on a replacement for mario bros. (stage) right now. will post more after testing.

new stage is ready. will replace 75m.

i'll post the links to the fixed .rels/new stages in a little while.

 

[FrozenHobo]

double post, but for pics:

Japanese Distant Planet fix:

75m Replacement (edited):

edit: some download fixes (SMI, 75m, and Distant Planet):
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ayt5hhiwml0

 

[NAMQ_DrunkeNFeasT]

double post, but for pics:

Japanese Distant Planet fix:

*pics*


edit: some download fixes (SMI, 75m, and Distant Planet):
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ayt5hhiwml0

danm, thanks, idk when I'll test these, but I'm so hyped to try it :D

 

[VietGeek]

So can someone compile a list of stages with "weird" camera boundaries by tomorrow afternoon?

So far I have:

PTAD
PSII
PSI (assumption; iffy)
Final Destination (ceiling only?)
Smashville (no idea; is it weird at all? I forget ROFL)
Yoshi's Island Brawl (ceiling only?)

Anymore?