I'm not angry, I'm just tired of all the whining especially about things that are just untrue.
Ivysaur isn't broken! You can DI ALL of his combos and easily get inside him and combo him to absurd percents. You need to learn the match-up before crying wolf, if you think he's broken, you just suck and don't know the match-up at all. Ivy's combos are practically nonexistant and the Razor Leaves can be gotten around SO EASILY that it's like, why should we tone down the speed? Just because someone can't handle the pressure? Every character has a way around it, it's not like you're stuck to the stage and can't jump or SHAD them.
It's disgusting to see the amount of whining there has been in the last few days about Ivysaur all because of one match where, Basic Sausage, failed to realize he can get around the leaves and didn't have to plank on the edge. Because he didn't know the match-up! He didn't know DDD could SHAD, could jab the leaves, could DAIR the leaves, could do anything to them to get through. It's not even that match that makes slipsy to believe Ivy is broken, it's because of his apparent combos he has when you don't properly DI the moves.
I will say it again, Dthrow > Uair is not a legit combo, all Ivy has are some leaves that lead into the grabs if you don't do anything about it and Nair pressure. Learn the match-up and quit being babies.
Ask Cape about it, he taught Gonzo the match-up and Gonzo kicked Cape's *** afterwards. Ivy is not, in any way, broken even with the overbuffed leaves.
I'm not angry, at all. I just emphasize my words and get irritated by the amount of whining there is in this thread. It'd be nice if people actually bothered to test stuff and evaluate to make sure they are right. Half of it is baseless, the other half is actually people trying to test things and letting us know how they work out. Ivy being broken is that first half, it's baseless and people just don't know the match-up at all.
The constant amount of people who can't handle Ivysaur on these boards annoys me to no end. It's why we have the character boards for, to learn match-ups...! >_<