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the abuse was a problem with the players. its possible to know the glitch is there and not use it.
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Brawl-: 1.5-1.6 thread archive. 2.0 is stickied
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Smash Champion
Brawl - is about fun?
or
Brawl - is about being broken?
I think, but correct me if I'm wrong, that it's about be broken. If pit was broken then the creators have succeeded.
IMO, put him up to metaknight. In (do people use the term vBrawl to talk about nintendo's brawl that is in MLG?) regular brawl, metaknight is broken. If pit can now beat him, or get close to beating him, then congrats.
Now make someone better than pit to be broken. The game continues to grow.
It sounds rather productive imo. Anyone agree?
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Brawl - is about being broken?
I think, but correct me if I'm wrong, that it's about be broken. If pit was broken then the creators have succeeded.
IMO, put him up to metaknight. In (do people use the term vBrawl to talk about nintendo's brawl that is in MLG?) regular brawl, metaknight is broken. If pit can now beat him, or get close to beating him, then congrats.
Now make someone better than pit to be broken. The game continues to grow.
It sounds rather productive imo. Anyone agree?
Bleck
Smash Master
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There is no reason to separate the two. The point to any custom codeset was to change the game because people were dissatisfied with the original. The goal in any of these sets is to fix the problems that make the game not fun, i.e Brawl- is trying to make the game fun again by breaking it.
Make 2 better than 1, 3 better than 2, 4 better than 3, etc?
So then we have an incremental ladder tier; similar to vBrawl, except Meta Knight is at the bottom. That's not really productive at all.
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
i wouldnt even say that dissatisfaction keeps this alive... im a fan of vB, and i like B- just as much. agreed with the reverse tier deal. just make everyone slightly above MK's caliber, then raise MK to the standard.
i was reading a discussion on balancing somewhere, i think in a P:M thread. some people want 50/50, some want an almost balanced game, but the thing i would rather have the most is an RPS style balancing. each character has its own good match-ups, bad match-ups, and even match-ups. in vBrawl, we have characters like MK who only have one even match-up and its a ditto, and then others like ganon, who are on the other side of it with no positive match-ups. and i mean, who doesnt like rock paper scissors? lol
i was reading a discussion on balancing somewhere, i think in a P:M thread. some people want 50/50, some want an almost balanced game, but the thing i would rather have the most is an RPS style balancing. each character has its own good match-ups, bad match-ups, and even match-ups. in vBrawl, we have characters like MK who only have one even match-up and its a ditto, and then others like ganon, who are on the other side of it with no positive match-ups. and i mean, who doesnt like rock paper scissors? lol
Ulevo
Smash Master
Eh. I'd say it's more like using vBrawl Meta Knight as a baseline for what we should attempt to strive for. It's not like we're not going to buff Meta Knight too
I think every character having anywhere from 4:6 or 6:4 or 5:5 match up ratios with all characters is reasonable.
If any character typically has a 7:3 or 3:7 match up, or worse, the job isn't being done right, and needs to be corrected.
Budget Player Cadet_
Smash Hero
...We are buffing metaknight. Or rather, did.
Bleck
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If you don't buff Meta Knight, make a character better than him, and then a character better than that character and so on, you end up with an incremental tier. I don't know how I can explain this any more clearly.
Also yeah, MK has already been buffed and I'm not sure why he shouldn't be.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
Streaming. http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pitminus
clowsui
Smash Legend
honestly we need some NJ brawl- vids. CA too since they're into it...top level Brawl players, playing to win at this game. if there are other regions whose top level players are playing to win at this game whose videos we can evaluate, then them too!
that way we can evaluate the game at the higher level that forward desires and that i'm sure you guys desire too. even if the things he says are blatantly wrong then it'll be even easier to prove it through these videos right?
that way we can evaluate the game at the higher level that forward desires and that i'm sure you guys desire too. even if the things he says are blatantly wrong then it'll be even easier to prove it through these videos right?
theunabletable
Smash Lord
Yeah a bunch of people today in SoCal were talking about Brawl-. Should get some side tourneys of it going around here 
Eisen
Smash Ace
Does anybody here know how I can play this when I'm using USB loader? I thought about going and just replacing the Brawl ISO I have with B- files where needed, but that would take too long.
Anybody got any better ideas?
Anybody got any better ideas?
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
A lot of USB loaders support ocarina codes. If yours doesn't, try a new one. If it DOES but you get a black screen when you try, you'll need the double gct, since the B- gct is more than 256 lines.
I don't know exactly how to do it though, sorry.
I don't know exactly how to do it though, sorry.
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I use Neogamma for my dvd copies of games. It lets me load codes. I think there is a neogamma for usb too
Eisen
Smash Ace
Oh, I forgot to mention for anyone else who gives advice that I CANNOT use my disc drive. It's broken, which is why I use USB loader to play games.
And thanks to you two, I'll look into that, Sinz.
And thanks to you two, I'll look into that, Sinz.
Eisen
Smash Ace
okay, so I followed the guide here ( http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=10385988 ), hoping it would work still even though I'm using rev 17, and, as expected, it didn't work and said "too many codes." If I install rev 19, could I possibly have to redownload some WADs and other files that I don't even remember that I had to download to get my USB loader to load games correctly with it? I'd really hate to mess up what I already have. It was a ***** for someone as code/technical talk-unfriendly as myself to get the USB loader to load games the first time.
Or, as Neogamma suggests, do you think removing textures alone might be enough to be able to load B - ?
Or, as Neogamma suggests, do you think removing textures alone might be enough to be able to load B - ?
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
Just put neogamma 19 on your SD, and if it doesn't work, give up on it. Too many codes means you went over the 256 limit. I'll look for the double gct method for you. If I had to guess, texture removing wouldn't do anything, since the amount of textures you have doesn't change the number of codes. Purely speculation, though.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=226447
try that on for size.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=226447
try that on for size.
Eisen
Smash Ace
Did what it said. Put the codes into a new .gct, exported, and had another one in pf of the original B- gct I downloaded. Freezes on "Starting Game..." but it looks like it read the codes.
Also, what's the "file replacement" code he's talking about in that thread?
Also, what's the "file replacement" code he's talking about in that thread?
BSL
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The codes it gives you should be alone in /codes. B- should be in pf. File replacement is the code that replaces all of the .pac files and such. It's really long.
Eisen
Smash Ace
That's what I did. Both are named "RSBE01.gct"
Do I need the file replacement codes, or do I somehow already have them possibly?
Do I need the file replacement codes, or do I somehow already have them possibly?
![[TSON]](/data/avatars/l/114/114196.jpg?1360761019){kind=avatar}
[TSON]
Hella.
If it freezes on starting game then you need gameconfig.txt in the root
SS3 Chaos
Smash Apprentice
wow.......interesting
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
File replacement is already in the B- gct. Tson, you need the game config even with double GCT? My bad.
Eisen
Smash Ace
I have gameconfig.txt with these codes in it already (in the SD root):
Don't tell me I forgot something eeeeeeeeeee
Code:
RSB?01:
codeliststart = 80570000
codelistend = 80580000
poke(800042B8, 60000000)
pokeifequal(803E9930, 4BFECA1D, 803E9930, 60000000)
pokeifequal(803E99A8, 4BFECA1D, 803E99A8, 60000000)
pokeifequal(803E9D5C, 4BFECA1D, 803E9D5C, 60000000)Ulevo
Smash Master
doom dragon 105
Smash Lord
I totally agree with you
Tier gaps are kinds getting stupid too. Some people are still not too great and others are just :O
Let me start by saying I've never had more fun playing brawl than playing b -, but with some work it will be amazing.
[TSON]
Hella.
BSL
B-B-B-BLAMM!!!
Apparently eisen's doesn't support more than 256....
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
For those of you who use usb loaders but can't seem to get Brawl- working, check this post out. http://www.smashmods.com/forum/thread-442-post-9005.html#pid9005
It'd probably be easier to get him/her a different one then. Apparently, you guys are having problems with Neogamma. Configurable USB Loader works for me. Does USB Loader GX work?
Edit: How do we even know eisen has an updated version of Neogamma? Nowhere does he say what version he has.
Neogamma: http://gbatemp.net/t158884-neogamma-thread
Get R8.
Configurable USB Loader: http://gbatemp.net/t147638-configurable-usb-loader
Nelo Vergil
Smash Master
To the whole tier gap/gameplay mechanics/trolling things that have seem to of been going (I think, wasnt paying a terrible amount of attention), half of you need to remember this is only the Beta, and Minus can only go up, especially with good data that is constantly being brought up by all of us (well, most of it is good, though I dont think we need to constantly hear how "broken" Bowser is XD). The other half shouldnt worry if criticism is looked down upon, its important to remember we're all getting different experiences atm, so its hard for a general consensus, once side events and such become more prominent, a more general line of opinions will likely come up, giving better input on whos really broken, who isnt (besides a couple of obvious things) among other things.
Keep up the great work guys, looking forward to...umm...would it be called an Alpha....Omega...v.1.....w/e is next after a Beta
Keep up the great work guys, looking forward to...umm...would it be called an Alpha....Omega...v.1.....w/e is next after a Beta
BSL
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Eisen said he didn't want to set up a new USB loader because of all the IOS installations that he had to do. But yea. I think he should just get a new one.
Eisen
Smash Ace
Followed the post by StandardToaster and got it to work. Thanks a ton.
brb trying out b- finally
BSL
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Go ST. youre a champion.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
Streaming new build of B- which includes an amazing little something made by Kirk. <3 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pitminus
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It's like the greatest thing ever for smash.
Think of other fighters but better.
standardtoaster
Tubacabra
Streaming the new build of B- again, which includes an amazing little something made by Kirk. <3 http://www.ustream.tv/channel/pitminus
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