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Whatever will dish out the most damage. If SDI isn't really present in this game and DI in general isn't as big, then I wonder how effective the Fire Breath attack will prove to be. We already know that its range is pretty crazy now.
I'm kinda wondering about that also, mainly because while SDI itself is still in the game, it looks like the SDI multiplyers for most or all attacks were lowered or maybe the way SDI actually works was changed. This could just be an early build thing or maybe it's all part of the plan. I noticed that the drill item seem to have a generous enough for SDI when it was used on Bowser in one of his 1v1 videos but it still looked pretty hard to SDI out of. I'm sure players can still SDI out of firebreath as well but they likely won't be able to just swim through it into Bowser and punish him for landing it on them. This, along with the reduced cooldown will certainly make it more useful for damage racking than it's been.
Agreed. As much as it would be fun for us, not being able to SDI out of Fire Breath would be a bit of a tax on the opponent's expense..that would be a ton of damage each time it connected, which honestly won't be hard at all. I'm perfectly content with the buffs it has received thus far, the reduced cooldown especially. Currently thinking of its pressure well spaced on an opponent's shield.
I think it's too early to talk too in-depth about how these changes affect Bowser in general. Early opinions tend to change extremely quick once the actual game comes out, especially in multiplayer games.
Fair enough. It's fun to speculate though.
Well it looks like SDI is only good enough now for avoiding full damage or K.Os because that Dsmash looked REALLY hard to SDI out of and by the time he was out of it pikachu was already finished smashing, it seems like the hitstun on your character lingers when you are out of the move as well as SDI just being generally harder to do, he had to start premptively doing it just to be able to get out properly, which is generally how SDI works anyway but now it seems less likely that you can just get punishes for it off of something hitting you.
For some reason, not sure why, I feel like Bowser's max damage option is gonna be some jump-in string off of Nair. Probably gonna be something straight forward though like an air fortress if that retains it's high damage output, it did up to 35% in brawl, which isn't so shabby. However if Dsmash gets a damage boost then I could see that working, If I remember correctly the full charge only adds about 5% or something in Brawl.It would be hilarious if Dsmash ended up being our ideal shield break punish due to SDI being less of an issue.
Because it's not like fully charged Fsmash does like 50 anymore...
Actually, Point Blank Fire Breath can be pretty effective as a mix up, bro. Noone expects it. Sort of like Samus' PBCS.
I was thinking the same thing. Also, maybe Utilt > filler*, depending on Utilt's IASAs.
I considered the mix up option but that's what it's limited to. A mix up. You should expect it maybe once or twice an entire set. Keep doing it and even the scrubbiest of options, roll behind FSmash, will be effective.
In Brawl, the sweetspot does about 13% so no big change there.
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If it turns out that we get to spam utilt on all the characters that spamed it on us then get ready to dish out that payback! However, even if that's not the case, utilt is still a lot more useful now, since it's no longer blind in front of him.
The Bowser I'm familiar with lately has been PM Bowser, so that explains the 3% difference. Oh well.
Oh! Ok, that version of Bowser is pretty cool.
With his tweaks, it's definitely my favorite version so far. All that armor is so great. Smash Wii U/3DS Bowser is like brand new so I'll more than likely be having more fun with that one.
He'll definitely be getting more respect that's for sure. Just waiting to see how he fares against the entire roster when all the other characters come in.
Ah, that'll be the day...I guess the next big thing we have to wait for is the 3DS tourney at San Diego Comic Con on the 25th so we can get some more gameplay action
Yeah, and I kind of expected that to be the case as well. No telling if things will change in the final product though. Doubt it.
I'd hazard a guess that either A) they haven't updated GB yet or B) he has a new FS coming and that's effectively only a placeholder for now.
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Or C) Sakurai must really love that Final Smash(how many other people do? Or D) Sakurai is that lazy( you do this much for Bowser and you still keep this?)
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Unfortunately while it does look like a fortress to Fsmash, it's actually just Bowser pivoting during his new Fsmash charge animation. It looks like a fortress because of how he hunkers down in the animation and the fact that the pivot makes it look like he's spinning like in a fortress.
Ahh, okay.I kinda think that Bowser's old moveset works on Giga Bowser, He'd look terribly goofy throwing out dropkicks and the new N-air animation. However, they might redesign either the model to make it more suitable for the new moveset or they may tweak the animations to give them more flare. However, I most likely will not be using final smashes outside of maybe getting a look at what they do or in some silly matches if I happen to visit the for fun mode to goof around.
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I agree completely with this statement, I also feel the same way for every other character, I would prefer if every character were good and seen as "viable" so we could see a much larger roster at tournaments. Even if that were the case, there'd probably still be characters that were just inherently better than others and that's totally fine, as long as tourneys consist of just the same top 3-5 top tiers with an occasional loyalist/specialist in something else. Also, if every character is on a more level playing field then we could see far more creative plays over textbook ones.I mean, I want Bowser to be buffed, but I don't want him to be a FOTM character that everyone flocks to, forcing me into the role of the "Bowser Hipster".
Lol I'm trying to imagine Giga Bowser dropkicking and using N-Air. Would be insane.
This confuses me. I saw his U-smash SA not work a number of times at SDCC but I swore it was working at E3.
Keep in mind that the armor on Up smash is on the charge, not the attack itself, so if you saw someone beat the attack while it was active then that's why. I'm thinking that upsmash is meant to be used kinda like a focus attack from SSF4. Charge it up to absorb a strong hit, then unleash it during lag. As for there being SA on the Fsmash, I don't have footage to back this up just yet but I did look over the Archive in the nintendo channel and I saw that the Dair vs Fsmash exchange happened two times, one of these times the fsmash lost, so I'm guessing that kinda disproves the armor since both hits were around the same part of the animation. What likely happened is that the second time, the dair wasn't positioned as favorably or was possibly stale, so it challenged hitboxes that were too strong and was canceled out. Once this gets posted to youtube I'll highlight both parts of the match for your convinence.
