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Falling and landing hits are all you need. The rising hit isn't necessary for a fresh shield. If you land on a shielding opponent with Bomb, the only thing that can go wrong is that your bomb isn't dead center enough and they get pushed out of range from the landing hit. This happens most with tall, human shaped characters, but the bomb still has to be very inaccurate.
Good to know! Not something I was really aware of. I was always under the impression that Bomb on shield didn't break a fresh shield without the horns!
Jab followups, pivot grab, Fortress as an OoS punish against aerials, Side B to A-land, practicing Bowser's run skid stop, Usmash's shellguard to beat incoming aerials, Fortress boost, covering ledge options with Fortress, what moves are armored by Tough Guy (look for a spoiler named "tough guy", everything else I can think of is expiremental or specific to matchups, so check out all these textbooks first. There's going to be a test on Tuesday.
The kill percents list in another topic has Wario's kill percentage at 97, which means on FD the u-air will start killing and be unavoidable at 97, but likely continues to do so a little longer. What you don't want to do if you're too high (my guess is around 110 or more) is mash air dodge. If I attempt to kill an opponent that I KNOW is at too high a %, I'll let them airdodge back into my u-air's range and kill them with the read. So if you suspect you're too high to reach, the safest bet is double-jump.
You short hop and then Fair or Bair immediately. Nothing else to it. With Bowser it's easy to buffer an aerial during his long jumpsquat animation, so Jump - Fair.Hello,
New to Bowser.
How do I short hop autocancel the lag for his fair and bair? Everything I've found says that's possible. But it doesn't teach how.
Thank you :D
Well there are two things you could be referring to. 1 is actually the official ledge cancelled klaw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOwfw7Qbfoo. You perform this by timing a b reverse while dashing at the perfect moment. This is kind of a useless technioff que though. If you want to use it to grab the ledge, the quarter circle method is like strictly faster. You can also use it to get out a quick bair, but you pretty much never see anyone do this. rar fast fall bair accomplishes a lot of the need of this kind of movement.
If a move deals knockback less than a certain threshold, Bowser takes damage and hitlag but doesn't flinch or get knocked anywhere. That's the long and short of it. If you're familiar with knockback based heavy armor (demonstrated at 2:29 in this video), it's precisely that on Bowser at all times. Knockback for attacks in Smash Bros. scale based on how much damage the opponent has taken, so naturally, some moves will scale to a point where Bowser no longer armors them, like Luigi's fireball. And some moves don't scale based on the opponent's damage because they have fixed knockback, like Falco's Blaster if Bowser is crouching. Ah, crouching reduces knockback from attacks by about 20% or so, allowing more moves to come under the threshold. Bowser's tough guy armor operates 100% with the game's engine for calculating knockback, so I would most recommend studying how knockback works in Smash Bros, as it will give you more of an understanding of how Tough Guy works.
luke_atyeo
We aren't as complex as Shulk. The commentators mainly fumble on logical things, like Bowser's ground moves having limb intangibility, or Bowse's UpB looking very similar to his DSmash despite being much faster, dealing more hits, and having less KB. Everything else is resolved by saying things like "big %", "kill confirm", or "combo food". Ah, and yea, commentators just say whatever they want when a shield break happens. It's all good.
Best throw combos in the game (matched only by DK), best non-tether grab range, a low commitment jab that leads into those grab consistently and has more range than entire characters' movesets like Mario, Fox, Metaknight, Sheik, etc an invincible Usmash, A moveset that deals 9-24% damage on hit, a great OoS option with Fortress, catching 2 frame ledge snaps with Ftilt or Dtilt with correct spacing, using Fortress to cover ledge options when you mistime hitting their ledge snap, limb intangibility on moves allowing you to beat aerials, A bowser bomb that breaks shields, and a companion Fsmash that kills at 40% if you take the time to push them to the ledge, A frame 8 command grab, that same command grab which is slower and worse from the air but has no landing lag, so you can use it to A land or approach and beat both shield and dodges (this is also really relevant when jumping onstage from the ledge), Short hop Air dodge cancel into specials, and a weight class that really takes advantage of rage since the amount of moves that don't kill outright at reasonable percents can be counted on one hand. And Bowser spends about half of each stock over 100% in damage because before this point he's getting comboed.
Saltix
https://youtu.be/usofyNT2hsA
Flying Slam is a command grab that's got frame 8 startup and frame 17 startup from the air. And half to most of Bowser's character-specific tech relates to this move in some way. The air version has no landing lag state so the move "auto cancels" whether the grab had become active or not. No other special move has this property in Smash 4. Bowser's auto cancel lag or "hard landing" lag is 6 frames, so when we say the move is lagless, we really mean it's as lagless as autocancelling an aerial. If you've heard of A-landing, Bowser can do that with Side B, but it works on any frame, not just the first three or so, and it's a great landing mixup when it looks like Bowser will tech the ground, but is suddenly standing upright with his shield, or performing jab. Using Aerial Side B as an attack is also interesting because the typical response to an airborne target approaching you is to shield - after all, they can't grab from the air. Not only does an air grab deal with shields, it also deals with dodges. If the other player spot dodges or rolls to escape air side B, Bowser only suffers 6 frames of landing lag while they're stuck in a long animation.
Possom
We currently do not have any tutorials on how, just demonstrations. We know that against mid weights, the % range is in the low 40s for chaining properly, even if it isn't out of a UThrow.
Thanks for the help, I actually do use claw grip during some combos for some characters, like Falcon footstool stuff.
You will want to consider using claw grip on your controller. It's possible without using claw grip, but many find it easier to do with that grip. Set C-stick to Attack. When you UThrow, practice timing your pivot -> rising reverse FAir so that you hit the opponent before reaching the apex of your jump, using C-Stick for the FAir to make it easier to drift towards them. Depending on weight and DI, you can follow up with the double jump BAir.
I'll make a query on Discord and see if anyone is up for recording their hands alongside game footage. We typically do not explore this option as much as we'd like due to its difficulty and window for execution. With DI, the timing for it gets much stricter and you may end up sending the opponent in unintended trajectories.
Zarxrax
If you're attempting to understand Nairo's reasons for using Bowser, then the best course of action is to ask the man himself. Tweet at him, go to his stream, email his business email. None of us here on the Bowser board can speak for Nairo, much less say we underrate Bowser because that's clearly not the case for us. On the contrary, LordMix believes Bowser is top 5, and many of our members have been rocking Bowser since the UThrow patch precisely because of his explosive power. Cassius up in NY can and has taken down PRd players with Bowser. KingKong in Canada consistently performs well with Bowser and was largely considered one of the best Bowsers from the Brawl era. Lunick is on the official power ranking for Ohio. DinoKnight is making a splash in south Florida. The list goes on and on, and that's just USA. You still have Pollo in Mexico, Paru in Japan, and HIKARU also in Japan. FanFan and Bushaheen are also active out in Europe. The only reason they are ignored is because of the marketing engine that is eSports and lack of exposure/networking on social media and streams.
TheRabidChipmunk
Not really. It's more for killing time because you didn't want to commit to a pivot grab or pivot FTilt, which has even more end lag. Clean play will involve dash stop over the pivot animation. You can verify this with recent matches by Cassius at the House of 3000.
