Blazblue Mafia: Game Over! Ouroboros Breaks the Cycle

[#HBC | Gorf]

do you seriously put it past ruy, the guy who tried to get away with counterclaiming watcher against his own partner in that-one-game-i-cant-remember-from-some-months-ago to try and weasel his way into some ridiculous claim with either an inactive townie or his scummate? cuz i dont, and when its the only tangible lead i can see i say yolo

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

i still think its not worth just rubbing off and that reading chaco's play will lead to a good grasp on the alignment of both of them.

 

[we thuggin]

this is why i want to lynch raz before gorf btw. i know gorf considers ruy a 100% ****** capable of atrocious plays to the point of delusion...raz does not have this distinction

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

do you seriously put it past ruy, the guy who tried to get away with counterclaiming watcher against his own partner in that-one-game-i-cant-remember-from-some-months-ago to try and weasel his way into some ridiculous claim with either an inactive townie or his scummate? cuz i dont, and when its the only tangible lead i can see i say yolo

He was a traitor that CC'd me.

Try again.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

null with some outliers to his play i think ill b able to figure out in time. is bardull as gross as i think he is?

currently operating with you/me/maven/jexs/ruy/chaco = town

I have Bard scum, but it's not hardmeta like my last excellent scumread on Bard, he's just bad.

That's a good town list at this point, I'd reevaluate D2 though.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

this is why i want to lynch raz before gorf btw. i know gorf considers ruy a 100% ****** capable of atrocious plays to the point of delusion...raz does not have this distinction

And yet played 110% worse in regards to my claim.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

And yet played 110% worse in regards to my claim.

elaborate maybe

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

He was a traitor that CC'd me.

Try again.

quickhammering rake in bingo

 

[#HBC | Gorf]

nabe do you have ruy as solid town?

 

[we thuggin]

Hey marshy could you explain your nabe read a bit?

i think the way hes treated gorf/bard/soup is considerably more consistent with an innocent than a scumbag

 

[we thuggin]

chaco

plz stop playing lazy. also reel in ruy

 

[Maven89]

im pretty sure you guys are wrong n should maaaaybe think more than "ruy was town. THAT MUST MEAN THOSE WHO WERE GOING AFTER EM MUST HAVE BE SCUM!"

Did you miss my comments on your overall content this game?

when its the only tangible lead i can see i say yolo

You've read this whole game, and the only read you have is someone who is confirmed mason? And you justify this with YOLO?

I can't comment on Ryu doing things in some other game before I got here, but unless he did the exact same thing I don't think it's relevant. No one is denying he did a bad play, so showing some other play that's bad doesn't cut it. You'd have to show him being mafia and throwing other mafia players under the bus for no damn reason to say he has a track record of this (unless that is what you're saying? link it if it is)

Maven did you answer my question?

I forgot. He asked me

its weird to see maven talk like he can meta me accurately with how new he is. not sure what to make of that.

@ Maven89 who else do you feel like you have a good meta read on?

No one, and I wouldn't even say I have a real meta read on you. I said earlier that I don't know what Scum Potato looks like. But I believe I've seen enough to know most of what they''re blaming you for is null. I'm mainly basing this off Lovers mafia and seeing snippets of your posts in the other games that were going on/had recently ended.

 

[Maven89]

Oh forgot to add, Gorf I'm mainly voting for you because I believe you're spouting bull****. No way you've read this entire game and have no reads at all except for someone who is 99% confirmed town.

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

nabe do you have ruy as solid town?

Not at all, I have Ryu as scumlean on play. But you're not going to get me on a lynch until massclaim, because if Ryu/Chaco are town and scum leaves them alive until then, scum is hanging themselves.

 

[BarDulL]

I have Bard scum, but it's not hardmeta like my last excellent scumread on Bard, he's just bad.

someone's looking a little...butt hurt

as an aside, i don't think you've ever correctly read me as scum.

but back to more important matters: you seem pretty confident in bard scum while leaning scum on ruy. i'm actually feeling more like these are overextensions on your end, perhaps inadvertent? i just don't get why you'd voluntarily be willing to hang yourself. or have you just not been scum in a while?

Vote: Nabe

 

[BarDulL]

some clarity: frankly, i think nabe is just trying to fuel the fire towards slots under suspicion, but i don't think he actually believes what he's saying, or he's scum.

 

[BarDulL]

disclaimer: i am not liable for groaning as a result all the butt puns i have been making towards nabe

 

[we thuggin]

>we thuggin votes bardull
>bardull votes we thuggin
>nabe voices suspicion on bardull
>bardull votes nabe

i swear bardull is tryna set the world record for ****tiest and most unabashed omgus play of all time

 

[Orboknown]

Might be able to post was supposed to be bla till thursday. Will know by tomorrow

 

[BarDulL]

>we thuggin votes bardull
>bardull votes we thuggin
>nabe voices suspicion on bardull
>bardull votes nabe

i swear bardull is tryna set the world record for ****tiest and most unabashed omgus play of all time

they aren't omguses.

 

[we thuggin]

request votecount

see yall tomorrow when i inevitably try to strongarm a raz lynch

 

[BarDulL]

request votecount

see yall tomorrow when i inevitably try to strongarm a raz lynch

>"bard has ****ty and 'unabashed omgus play'
>declares hes going to try to strongarm raz instead of going for bard
>mfw

while i appreciate the change in subject, raz isn't dying today unless you've got something compelling up your sleeve.

 

[BarDulL]

10

@ Raziek

 

[#HBC | Nabe]

someone's looking a little...butt hurt

as an aside, i don't think you've ever correctly read me as scum.

but back to more important matters: you seem pretty confident in bard scum while leaning scum on ruy. i'm actually feeling more like these are overextensions on your end, perhaps inadvertent? i just don't get why you'd voluntarily be willing to hang yourself. or have you just not been scum in a while?

Vote: Nabe

As an aside, I don't think I've ever read you wrong, except in Scott Pilgrim as TvT when I read you as scum, but then went back on it and proceeded to defend you hard against detractors. I'm certain I've called you as scum twice before; once after we were mafia together, and once in Tekken.

Back to more important matters: I'm not terribly confident on you being scum -- it's been well over a year since I've played TvS with you as well as over a year since we hydra'd. I simply think your play is raunchy, and would be very down for a D1 lynch given that. This vote really fuels that fire as well, as it's weird gut with question marks that comes very shortly after a different direction on a marshy vote.

If I die toNight, I'd have to count on you to look at probable killer marshy. (Raz would probably look at marshy at well but has zero credibility and might not be here D2.) And that's a concern, because you don't seem to have any focus or direction to pull that off, and you look like you're flopping which cuts your credibility when it might matter. What all of that means is that I'm also eager to hope you're scum rather than simply ineffectively town.

 

[BarDulL]

As an aside, I don't think I've ever read you wrong, except in Scott Pilgrim as TvT when I read you as scum, but then went back on it and proceeded to defend you hard against detractors. I'm certain I've called you as scum twice before; once after we were mafia together, and once in Tekken.

Back to more important matters: I'm not terribly confident on you being scum -- it's been well over a year since I've played TvS with you as well as over a year since we hydra'd. I simply think your play is raunchy, and would be very down for a D1 lynch given that. This vote really fuels that fire as well, as it's weird gut with question marks that comes very shortly after a different direction on a marshy vote.

If I die toNight, I'd have to count on you to look at probable killer marshy. (Raz would probably look at marshy at well but has zero credibility and might not be here D2.) And that's a concern, because you don't seem to have any focus or direction to pull that off, and you look like you're flopping which cuts your credibility when it might matter. What all of that means is that I'm also eager to hope you're scum rather than simply ineffectively town.

i was not scum in tekken, i replaced in as some interesting yet jank town role kataefi came up with. do some homework!

in terms of my play being 'raunchy,' this is the crux of the over-extension as a result of your declaration of bard scum. but i certainly will concede to playing a fairly passive role while trying to move town along the correct path. bad play? absolutely not. you'll have to do better than that since 'raunchy' is hardly a form of substantiation to begin with.

i don't see you dying toNight; whatever could possibly allude to you that you are going to die toNight? i don't understand the implications from a PR point of view unless it's a poor attempt at reverse psychology. either way, i'm not biting into it with much currency. are you being a silly goose?

marshy is not out of reach. raziek made a mistake; everyone makes mistakes. the way raz went about it does not spell out scummy play to me, and he's a good resource, so he's worth the second chance in my book.

 

[Kantrip]

i dislike marshy just on principle of him targeting raz and bardull while giving gorf a pass because he thinks gorf being ******** is remedied by his dislike of ruy

like, no... all the votes onto ruy before chaco was in the thread were dumb. theres literally NO reason to be giving gorf a pass while going after raz, and i dont understand how marshy can be so confident that he is trying to steer the lynch AWAY from gorf onto raz

**** dat

 

[Chaco]

chaco

plz stop playing lazy. also reel in ruy

I ain't been here fool. Haha. I hopped on last night for a sec and then went to sleep because I had to be up early for a doc's appt, and I just got back home. My phones busted so I can't post off of it rn.

Anyways, as far as Ryu, i'll hit him up in a few. I haven't even talked to him yet. He usually doesn't even communicate much when he has OC, so I hadn't even attempted it yet. But forreal, @ Ryu, stop playing defiantly and you'll be good.There's no need to keep on justifying yourself, I finished the out you started so it's good. We're clear.

Gorf, why in the **** would Ryu pull that as scum? I mean honestly, let's be real. If you wanna base him off my play that's cool and all, but it's pretty much stupid to assume that it's a gambit at this point. There's no logical gain to be made there.

Dull is looking better imho.

Thuggin seems good to me as well. Logical thought to go after people who try to cast doubt on an-CC'd outed claim, especially after I confirm it. You'd have seen some real rage if I was scum and he pulled that ****. As town it's more like "well, Im confirmed so that's good for us, but goddamn wtf was that play?"

I agree on the Raz hate, but I'm throwing Kantrip right on up there with it. Both are pulling the same sort've stuff.

Idk how to feel about Nabe yet, I need to read him again more closely.

JeXs is all over the place with those sheep votes..

I'm re-reading more closely now cause before it was just to catch up.

 

[Maven89]

marshy is not out of reach. raziek made a mistake; everyone makes mistakes. the way raz went about it does not spell out scummy play to me, and he's a good resource, so he's worth the second chance in my book.

Do you really write off Raziek's push as a mistake? I mean the evidence was all laid out in front of him.

Also what's your views on Gorf?

 

[Raziek]

Raziek, if I put a gun in your hand and told you to shoot Ruy would you pull the trigger?

Nope. I slept on it, and he's just.....

really REALLY stupid.

 

[Maven89]

I agree on the Raz hate, but I'm throwing Kantrip right on up there with it. Both are pulling the same sort've stuff.

I have to ask, how are they pulling the same sort of stuff?

 

[Chaco]

Pursuing of Ryu as scum for that bobble.

Gorf is just hating on ryu, which is why Marshy is passing it off. Gorf is giving ryu an out to better his play, and based off of mine. No one else is. They're just pushing him as scum.

 

[Raziek]

unvote

I find myself in a really ****ty spot right now. As much as I wish I could just lynch him for such atrocious play, Ruy is not scum, and neither is Chaco.

I hate that Marshy is actually trying to get me lynched for pushing against the really ****ty play. (Which, mind you, I was pushing against him BEFORE Chaco came in and confirmed it.)

After Chaco came in and confirmed it I made the 'Is this real life?' post, left Ruy that list of questions because I wanted his clearly explained motivations, and I went to bed. I left my vote there and planned to move it today after sleeping on it.

Because Marshy has put the wagon back on me, though, I'm now forced into a position where the only two slots I really dislike (Marshy and Gorf) are 'OMGUS' or 'The easy way out' respectively, and he's going to paint me as grimy for that. I do not have a scumread I have any confidence in besides those two, and even those two are tenuous and biased as a result of them pushing against me and directly drawing my attention.

Runner-up is Kantrip, I guess. I'm not confident on how serious he was actually being about settling on a policy lynch so quickly.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

Raz put your vote on Gorf, I'd much rather see him gone over you right now.

 

[#HBC | Red Ryu]

i dislike marshy just on principle of him targeting raz and bardull while giving gorf a pass because he thinks gorf being ******** is remedied by his dislike of ruy

like, no... all the votes onto ruy before chaco was in the thread were dumb. theres literally NO reason to be giving gorf a pass while going after raz, and i dont understand how marshy can be so confident that he is trying to steer the lynch AWAY from gorf onto raz

**** dat

Vote Gorf imo.

 

[Raziek]

I'm re-reading right now before I throw down a vote.

JeXs is Townlean for me.

 

[Raziek]

Would lynch Orbo. Would lynch Soup. Would lynch Bard.

I feel like I need to talk to you some.

Why these 3? Inactivity, or is there more to it?

 

[Raziek]

On a re-read I don't think Gorf is actually scum. I think he's a ****head for proxy'ing his vote on Marshy, but I don't think he's scum.

So no, I'm not going to vote him right now.

 

[Maven89]

I'm just going to repeat this because no one seems to be mentioning it

Gorf has

1. Not added any information
2. Made constant joke posts
3. Insists he has zero reads on anyone, even this late in the day
4. Is blatantly trying to buddy with Marshy when he already said he has no read on Marshy
4. Voted for what's essentially a confirmed townie, justifying it with "yolo"

Either Gorf is a ****** or he's scum

 

[#HBC | ѕoup]

I'm so glad this game has taken off. Bless you all xoxo

Maven's pratically erased all doubt from me and he's putting in a ton of legwork, and good ones at that. There are still some things that I want to get out of the way though before I'm fully done:

@ Maven89 I still disagree with your potassium read obviously, but the way you're explaining yourself doesn't seem fabricated. That's what matters in hindsight but hopefully I can pull enough of my own legwork to get potato six feet under. I'm gonna pull out all the stops relatively soon.

 

[Raziek]

I'm just going to repeat this because no one seems to be mentioning it

Gorf has

1. Not added any information
2. Made constant joke posts
3. Insists he has zero reads on anyone, even this late in the day
4. Is blatantly trying to buddy with Marshy when he already said he has no read on Marshy
4. Voted for what's essentially a confirmed townie, justifying it with "yolo"

Either Gorf is a ****** or he's scum

Regrettably..... this is typical for Gorf.