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Ok with the hammer I'll confirm I was a VT like I said.
GL Town.
GL Town.
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Think: Would scum do this? How would their faction benefit (inc. it makes them look town).
I don't think scumX1 would have said this.1.) WHATEVER ANYONE SUGGESTS, OR REGARDLESS OF WHAT ELSE HAPPENS, do not lynch Asdioh or PL.
kK, this will be kept in mind. Quoting so more people can catch it.I seriously don't understand why you guys want to drag on this Day so much, do you think this "discussion" is actually in anyway beneficial? I could sit here stalling out until deadline watching ****ty weak cases be presented when the player writing them doesn't even beleive in them but I personally find it to be a waste of time. If Seik makes a Glyph case then fine, but I'm pretty confident it'll just be like all the others, really reaching and poor. If someone legit had a good reason to disagree with PL/Asdioh/X1/Glyph as town then I'm pretty sure they'd have it done by now.
My suggestion for tomorrow (assuming I'm not around), is outlined below. I STRONGLY suggest you follow it.
1.) WHATEVER ANYONE SUGGESTS, OR REGARDLESS OF WHAT ELSE HAPPENS, do not lynch Asdioh or PL.
2.) Ignore anything and everything that happens in the Night, because Bingo almost certainly will **** with it
3.) See if a legitimate (see below for what is legit) and not reaching case can be produced about Glyph (I'm pretty confident it won't), also see below section about what is scummy.
3A.) If it does and its actually good then make up your own minds between Seik/Glyph
3B.) If no to the good Glyph case, Lynch Seikend.
So X1, How do I tell whether certain actions are scummy or not?
Think: Would scum do this? How would their faction benefit (inc. it makes them look town).
Think: Would town do this? What does it benefit to their faction?
Think: Would town do this, even though it doesn't benefit their faction? This is the hardest one to think about, but many people fail on this and call dumb people scum, stuff like trolling, messing about, being an idiot and not putting in much effort ISN'T NECESSARILY SCUMMY. Nor is being wrong, nor is doing something you disagree with (lookin at you PL). Its also very much worth mentioning that if someone does something you can't understand, that's not scummy either, even if you can't understand their thought process, then that doesn't make them scum either, just look at whether you think they have genuine pro-town intentions or not.
Never assume: That because one person has failed to give off town tells then they are scum and vice versa. Player's are null till proven otherwise and I'm pretty confident with the exception of a few things he's done, that seems to be why everyone finds Seik town.
Weigh up: The entire actions of players that game. If one player has done one tiny scummy thing, that doesn't make them scum on its own, if their whole game they've also been exhibiting town tells.
Don't: Count Seikend self voting as a town tell. Seriously don't he could easily have been told about it by J (who did it to almost win in Inception). I know its basically gonna be impossible to convince you of this and I'm sure someone will ask me why I didn't make a bigger deal out of this earlier, but whatever, the first part of this mini-guide thing reminds us that sometimes scum do stuff just to look town, hence bussing etc. I actually think if you weigh up the self voting incident in this mini-guide, remembering that scum can do stuff just to look town its not even that much of a town tell. Whatever.
unless someone has any questions, then I'm 100% ok with ending the Day now.
>he knows RR is town?I'm cool with it being between Glyph and I.
I got dis Asdioh, don't worry. You're gonna see the most beautiful case ever written toMorrow. Hopefully.
- Number 2 is revealed to be... innocent.
- Number 2 is... too soaked in X1-12's mug of rum to be revealed at this time.
X1-12, contestant number 2, [GENEROUS] number cop, reveals all upon death!
- Number 8 is revealed to be... innocent.
- Number 1 is revealed to be... innocent.
- Number 6 is revealed to be... innocent.
- Number 13 is revealed to be... ??? ???? ??? ????? ?????? ???????? ?? ? ???? ?????? ???????????????????????? ?????? ?????
- Number 2 is revealed to be... innocent.
- Number 2 is... too soaked in X1-12's mug of rum to be revealed at this time.
- Number 5 is revealed to be BSL/Nabe
- Number 7 is revealed to be Aposl
- Number 6 is revealed to be KevinM/Red Ryu
- Number 12 is revealed to be Asdioh
- Number 2 *is too stained in Aposl's blood to be revealed at this time*
YESEverything is 100% correct!
Very true, but if I'm not lying, then we all lose.Glyph, I want to believe you, but if you're lying and I follow you, I lose![]()
If this isn't enough, consider the fact that J faked a posting restriction (which essentially stopped him playing for the day) AND replaced out.Agrro?
And good god I am so happy I didn't get scum this game. I was so fricking tired of it bleck.
Glad to be part of town again finally.
Confirming I'll be lurking like **** for at least 3-4 days. My hydra buddy can carry us, dw.
ps we're town.
pps anyone who attacks this slot before I start posting properly is scum.
Agrro?
And good god I am so happy I didn't get scum this game. I was so fricking tired of it bleck.
Glad to be part of town again finally.
Does town win when we lynch three scum in a row?
Several people make “I’m town posts.” Count them. That’s 4 right there.Town wins when we beat everybody
Random Vote Stage. Pretty much you throw votes around until something interesting happens are roll from there.
Granted, this was before the game. Maybe it wasn’t srs, right?Though right now it looks like we'll just be lynching scumJ and skipping that.
He says J and GLG’s are hella off. Fair enough. JTB and Kev only implied their town.J's #28 still feels hella off to me. Same with GLG's #15.
Iunno I guess I don't like when people come in and announce they're town. Btw GLG is probably scum since the person who looks most town seems to always be scum.
JTB and Sqweedle should post more information in a post/better, respectively.
Asdioh and Pink Lemonade should just post at all (though I've been just as inactive, so I don't really hold that against them. Day's just starting).
I want Smar or J lynched today. Seikend would be alright but I definitely prefer those two. I don't want an Aposl lynch.
So he’s got a set lynch in mind, just based off one early post?Because your early game was just that off putting to me.
J is totes scum
You're taking everything I said and reading it as though I'm scum.
What. She hasn't been fluff posting. And the other bold part I already said was a joke.
What. I was the first to bring up the points I did. And if that's a "weak tag-along" what do you call the majority of the Seik wagon.
What. I didn't call either of you out for weak posts, I just don't like being told "I'm town!!!". GLG does look the most town, and I won't lynch him.
What. I wasn't calling them out, I just wanted them to post more. I overlooked KevinM.
What. Because this is my first post thus far maybe? I don't have a post earlier in which I could bring this up.
Because those are the people I have scum reads on, save Aposl, who has been a target and I have a town read on.
Neat. Lets lynch J now.
unvote vote: J
Okay.
Its fine, though I would have expected you to read all my posts if you were voting for me.
If its a joke post, you've just admitted to being scum. Hurray!
No, I really didn't. Calling someone out would have been something along the lines of:
"I'm really not liking how they're just avoiding posting, they're probably scum." All I said is that they should post. Not saying they're town, not saying they're scum.
One post is still more than zero. And like I said, I was hardly calling them out.
Aposl's posts absolutely reek of a newer town player to me. His policy on lynching the worst player is exactly the kind of thing I would expect from someone new to forum mafia, if he were scum he wouldn't have even mentioned it.
J is scum because J is obviously scum. (ie, I don't feel the need to restate myself).
Seikend has been explained by other people numerous times.
Smarg's interactions with Aposl made me lean scum for her.
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No, I voted for you because you passed Smarg on the Scum-o-Meter. (oh, and you might notice you kiiiiinda voted for me after the post i called you out on too breh.)
In every post he is asserting that J is scum and must be lynched. Is it just me who this looks incredibly off to? If you’re town you don’t know anything to start with. You flip and you flop and try to work out who is scum. The only time someone is this confident that someone is scum is if they know who scum is. Either via night actions, or, it’s a bus.J don't be mad I caught you as scum, I mean its really uncanny that you've been getting it so often.
Glyph constantly repeats it’s due to J’s pregame play. He can’t produce a case based on J’s actions.Explain to me in one sentence, why J is scum to you in your eyes.
That J is 100% scum and is the lynch for the day, then fine. Lynch me toDay. If you can’t, then think. How the hell can Glyph be so confident?Agrro?
And good god I am so happy I didn't get scum this game. I was so fricking tired of it bleck.
Glad to be part of town again finally.
You called me scum for saying I was town in an RVS post.
You called KevinM town for saying he was town in a real post.
???
Kevin didn't have to fake his.
He is town.Because he is town.
I mean the real answer is, he can't know I'm town unless he is scum.
DING DING DING!Did you need the dictionary answer?
However I am town so
PL I have already correctly pegged J as scum, if that's not scumhunting I don't know what is.
Metaing J as 100% scum is possible from that one post.It is most certainly not a contradiction. KevinM isn't J. We can agree on this I'm sure. When KevinM says he's town, its because he's town. When J makes a post going "OMG whoaaaa I am so super happy I got town this game! I was so sick of being dumb ol' scum" it makes him scum.
Also what meta have I used at all.
In terms of Glyph/J.
8DDDDDDD. I’m always right guys.The only real issue I have with Glyph is his over-confidence on KevinM and J as town and scum respectively. Unfortunately I don't know how reliable his meta on them for self-claiming town, so I can't say if his confidence is justified.
Ignores GLG/KevOkay that catches me up pretty well. Onto new and brighter things.
J should be lynched today.
BSL should be lynched toMorrow. His "joke" was unfounded (nor was it similar in nature to the ones I made), and his refusal to provide a a case to support his attacks beyond "the bad things" radiates scum waves so harshly I may be losing years of my lifespan. Smar would also be a viable candidate for toMorrow's lynch, though the only thing I've taken issue with recently is her revival of the questions from over 10 pages ago for Aposl.
Smar, why did you wait so long to ask for an answer to those if you didn't receive one immediately after you posted them?
BSL, if you're town, build a case against me.
“This board is numbered 1 to 13.
There are randomised names belonging to each of you behind these numbers. But who is what?
Deceivers amongst you may already know the answer. These deceivers can deceive even further when they score a row or column on the board.
Progress further in this wild experiment by sacrificing one person to the bingo board.”
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Decievers. Can Decieve even further with Bingos.Role stop (dubbed, Fusion Suit)
- One player of my choosing is protected from all night actions during the night. So safe from NKs, but also can't be targeted by our cops
Reporter (dubbed, Camo)
-I am told if a player if doing anything in the night
Role Sense (dubbed, Psyche Lock)
-I can choose a player and find out their number and alignment (pretty much the combination of X1 and Aposl, just a lot harder to use)
Suppress (dubbed, Erana's Peace)
-One player of my choosing is roleblocked